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@@y2washere i recently got to hit with the TKO-C 14.3 and it was really impressive! I think the TKO-CX 12.7 would be perfect for me based on that experience and the reviews on it. Hopefully I’ll be able to get my hands on them for a review soon!

@@scooterreviewsstuff Yeah it's my main paddle right now. Great paddle but it's not forgiving if you make a mistake with the drop/reset. While I could probably play more competitive with something like the Shogun or Apollo. I just feel like the TKO-C is more fun and I don't mind developing the control to go along w it.

@@y2washere sometimes the more fun paddle is worth it! Even if it means you play worse…

@@samuelborthwick4867 I think I'd give the edge to the Force ever so slightly, but they're also radically different feeling paddles The Force is elongated with a much stiffer feel, whereas the Flare is that wide body shape with a softer, springier feel. So I think ultimately different people might feel more comfortable generating power with one or the other based on their preferences.

@@khpickleball Thanks! I appreciate it. And I haven't personally seen Neonic or any brand address the polyester / titanium issue other than B&B making a joke in the comments of the PB Persuit podcast video. However, I personally just view it as a marketing term at this point and I don't think any brand is using it maliciously. Unfortunately, it became a feature before it was discovered that it wasn't exactly what the brands thought it was, but it does seem to make a difference in the feel of the paddle, so whatever you call it, I like it!

@@swiftraider759 Tough question! I think for my personal taste i like the Neonic just a little bit more. I like the longer handle and titanium which gives it the edge for me. But my dad still prefers the Fat Boy because it’s a bit stiffer and has a bigger sweet spot.

@@scooterreviewsstuff Thank you for the reply. I do like that the Fatboy has some pop compared to the Mach 2 Forza. Less than the Apollo but the Fatboy has more power. I added 3grams at 3 and 9 o'clock and recently used in a 4.0 tournament. Still maneuverable in the kitchen. Those characteristics you mentioned are important to me as far as the sweet spot a being rigid.

@@swiftraider759 No problem! Really can’t wrong either way since they’re both great!

@@MattyRut2922Thanks Mat! I always try to go into a review as unbiased as possible. Definitely interesting watching the other reviews coming out today and hearing everyone else’s opinions about it!

@@aaronsegal1682 It’s definitely a good one to consider!

@@kwong8414 Thank you!

@@andrewpham8665 No problem! Glad i could help out.

@@MattyRut2922 Thanks Mat! I'm definitely trying to step it up. I've been doing photography for a long time, but video editing is a whole other beast. I've also been following them since the Kinetic days. Happy to finally check them out and they didn't disappoint!

@@StewNWT Are you referring to the edge guard? Might just be the contrast in color that makes it look more extreme, But no different than any other paddle with an edge guard.

@@shalooom Neonic is one of the best! Super excited to see what else they bring out in the future!

@@vprars06 I like my paddles a bit on the heavy side, So I did about 4g on each side, Starting just below the corners.

@@julialoehlein9778 Thanks for watching!

@@wolf-xf6hf Yeah…I’ve never understood why it’s so difficult to just advertise the actual handle length. Obviously the ability to overwrap is a little different, but brands advertising handles longer than they actually are isn’t cool. Both of the new Flare paddles look great! I’m super excited to get my hands on them ASAP!

@@gao57009 Thanks! It’s not the easiest thing to describe, So i appreciate the comment!

It got a bit of traction when it first came out, but seemed to fall off a bit. But i actually just saw it in someone’s top 5 list and it deserves it! Very good paddle for a very good price!

@@gene3344 The spin on Neonic paddles is really solid! I was actually playing with the Flow from Neonic tonight and kept getting compliments about n how much spin i was generating with it.

@@rjsmith3684 You guys are doing great! But some good court shoes are certainly nice to have. Good playing with you guys!

Hopefully I’ll have the opportunity to do another one soon!

@@danny-al They are definitely different feeling. The DBD has a much stiffer feeling face, which is similar to the B&B Filth but with a more all-court play style. The Shogun is going to be much springier off the face and offer more power, but with a bit less control and a higher swing weight. So there is definitely a lot of personal preference.

That's a bummer to hear. My handle wasn't great, but it definitely wasn't that bad, but I'm really bummed to hear about your issues with customer service. I really like the concept, and I'd love to see what they could do with their tech. Hopefully they can get things figured out and improve their products and customer service experience.

That's a tough one to answer because there are very different paddles that cater to very different types of players. The Mach 2 Forza is a very soft control paddle that is very forgiving but lacks power/pop. The Shogun is a springy power paddle with a lot of pop, but isn't as forgiving on the control side. For me personally, I'd choose the Shogun because it fits my play style a bit better. The Fat Boy which I just reviewed is almost the perfect middle ground between those two paddles, so that could be a solid 3rd option for you.

Bread & Butter is the best!

They are pretty different playing experiences, so it really depends on what I’m feeling and what kind of game I’m looking to play. I think the Shogun is a more offensive paddle with more power, whereas the Fat Boy is more well-rounded and consistent with much easier control. Coming from the Luxx, the Fat Boy would be a easier adjustment out of the two.

@@scooterreviewsstuff Perfect. Thanks for the info!

No problem!

Haha no way! I’m coming from a Luxx as well! Don’t know which one to switch too so I’m getting both the Shogun and the Fat Boy. Main reasons for me switching is the Luxx ‘s grit wears out way to quick imo

@@ChocolateCrip This is also happening with my Luxx as well with the grit. I played with the Shogun yesterday and it takes a little getting used to especially with the control coming from a Luxx. It definitely more "poppy" than the Luxx and you can feel the impact more. I think because the Luxx is so pillow that we get spoiled with other paddles. I do like the power you get with the Shogun but I think I'd rather have the soft pillow you get from the Luxx instead.

I agree! Hopefully they’ll fix their naming system soon.

@@scooterreviewsstuff

Congratulations! You won the giveaway! Can you give me a good email to contact you?

@@scooterreviewsstuffDo you have an Instagram account I could message or did you want me just to put it out here in the open?

Sorry…i didn’t realize that would be so complicated (first giveaway) You can shoot me a dm @scootertakesphotos on instagram or email me at scooterreviewsstuff@gmail.com

There are a lot of variables to consider when answering that question and I think a lot of them are subjective, but I'll give my very surface level opinion. I think carbon fiber is the easiest overall because it's very linear. It has a very consistent feel throughout all shots. Kevlar is much more dynamic and it can feel very soft when drinking but much more stiff feeling when driving the ball. Titanium is also dynamic but less so than Kevlar. However, it is significantly springier than carbon or Kevlar. But with that being said, I find the shogun and its titanium easier to control than the filth with its carbon, which is where the personal preference comes in.