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I am glad you found this review helpful, and that you ended up with a great vehicle to fit your needs!

Amazon, I love it and it fits great. amzn.to/4h8HbWF

Great review Any other mods on your new ev blazer?

@derylhunt4494 not yet, curt hitch, the organizer, and next up are tires. Something better in snow and more aggressive.

Gas would have been a similar price. This will destroy gas mileage equally. I wouldn't do this regularly due to range.

@@cyberzev As you say gas would have been a similar price. Towing or not, an EV will never be more efficient than an ICE vehicle at range. The starting price for the EV Blazer appears to be about $4000 more than the starting price for a top trim V6 Blazer. You've spent more money on the vehicle, an hour longer travel time and roughly the same to "fuel" it. With respect, I don't see the upside.

@Chilibeanz559 most of my charging is done at home for $5.00 for 250 miles. Takes about 10 seconds to plug in. I don't see the upside of gas, frankly, especially in Midwest with cheap electricity.

@@cyberzev Commenting on the video you presented, the upside to gas would be an hour less travel time and a savings of around $4000 on the purchase price of the vehicle. Inserting a gas pump nozzle takes basically the same time, I'm not clear what point you were trying to make. As you say, $5.00 for 250 miles with home charging, that $55.00 190 mile trip is a horrible value. Out of curiosity, how long will it take you to recoup the extra price of the electric version of your vehicle over gas savings?

@@Chilibeanz559 I didn't buy it to save money, I bought it because I like it more. I bought mine used for $36k with 6k miles, so will I will save a ton of money. By 2030 I suspect EVs will be cheaper up front than gas to buy and to operate. Plugging in at home is different than the pump. At the pump you have to wait, at home I just go inside. You aren't waiting for EVs to charge in this case. It does it while I sleep. Pretty much the only maintenence I have to do is the tires, they last about as long as a gas car (tiny bit less due to weight). No oil change, brakes last much longer (life of vehicle most likely), etc.

Yes, will repeat in warmer weather. I wasn't planning on this trip earlier. Usually, I would charge to 100 before leaving. I did 4 charges to keep my overall charge time less, Blazer EV charging slows down a lot after 20 min. I won't really count the last one, so 3 quick charges instead of 1-2 with one of those being much longer.

Not really, only if they have layouts like this one. Also, most stations around here are less than half full so it is a non issue. Tesla is switching to longer cables on new stations.

I'll try to get more in before the spring thaw! I left at 70% from UHaul and thought I had plenty to drive 63 miles. I got 15 miles out of town and thought: do I need to turn around?! I am not sure I will make the 48 miles to the charger (0 alternative charge options on that route). Once I hit 30 miles remaining, I knew there was no turning around. Arrived with like 6-7% :)

@ did you notice any improvement on the way back after you had fast charged on the way there and your battery was hot? The cold weather range on this vehicle is really abysmal - I get about the same efficiency with my Lyriq as I do with me R1T on the highway below 25 degrees.

@cscorona1 maybe a bit better, like I got about the same despite driving faster.

The Silverado EV does excellent with its 700 V pack. The Blazer, is not very good. It is only a 300 V pack, so it runs into thermal issues. However, it is similar to Tesla 4680 vehicles like the Cybertruck and 4680 Y (no longer made)

Very true. The preconditioning really only made a big difference first 20 miles or so, after that it had warmed up (and difference was likely due to temp at that point as you mention). Short trips in winter really kill range as it cycles temp a lot. What I will try if I do this again is capture energy used to preheat cabin to see what overall efficiency would look like. It would also be nice to see a full battery discharge as that would give idea of range difference.

You must drive EVs :)

Exactly, and that waste heat is actually useful in the winter, and they still aren't as efficient as electric (gas has range advantage, but I get by with electric, even in winter)

@cyberzev I'm about to have a taste of sub zero in my Blazer EV. Forecast is for -13 at about the time I leave for work. Mine is outside, but is plugged in for keeping the traction motor battery warm.

its called physics. what is disappointing?

@ that I only get barely over 100 miles between 80 and 20-30 percent.

Thanks! I am glad you enjoyed it.

I am glad it was useful for you, thank you!

AWD

I remember in my Gen1 volt with engine starting due to temperature disabled, I only got 11 miles range once when it was like -10⁰F. I am pretty sure heat pump is helping, even in these conditions. I will try a 30⁰F test too (in high heat pump efficiency range).

Thanks! Yeah we had a Clarity PHEV, looking at highway MPG once electric was depleted: in warm weather it would get 45 mpg at 75 mph, but as soon as weather was cold it would drop to 32 MPG or so. I don't think it was generating enough waste heat to keep the engine and cabin warm otherwise.

I have a 2021 Crosstrek PHEV and just drove from Detroit to NC yesterday. Temps didn’t go above single digits until Charleston WV. On the highway in HEV mode, i normally average 31-35 mpg but was averaging 19-21 mpg in the single digit weather.

Preheat the battery before departure while the vehicle is plugged in.

What model do you have? RWD or AWD? Yeah, at my temps heat pump doesn't add much, but at 35 should have pretty good efficiency still. However, short trips might still not be great as it takes energy to heat cabin to temp. Try preheating?

@@cyberzev We have AWD. Preheating doesn't help much since we generally travel 20 miles or more per trip, and we are retired and only need to be plugged in once per week. I guess we could keep the car plugged in more often. But also when we try to remotely start the car to preheat the cabin, it only works 1 out of 3 times which is not good.

​@@ValConB you can set the target temp in the app. I think it's better to set it high and turn it down. The Blazer doesn't get very warm quickly unless the temp is set to high.

A2Z Typhoon is a good one, as is the GM one (mine from GM is the Tesla made one, they use multiple suppliers so it might vary).

What trim level and year out of curiosity?

Most of my driving is local at $0.05 per kWh charged at home (similar cost to gas car getting 180 mpg). But on a trip like this I can start at 100% and end at day 10% reducing charging on the road. So if I drive 500 miles, I probably only pay high rates for 300 miles. I think this trip could be done for around $60 for 500 miles. Similar cost to a 25 mpg gas vehicle. This is midsized SUV. Length of trip influences charging time. I can drive to the 250 mile round trip town with about 5 min charge stop. If I drive to the 500 mile round trip town or might add an 90 min. This vehicle isn't very fast charging, other EVs are faster for this type of driving.

It might need some wheel slip. Maybe try winter drive mode? I don't recall exactly how to engage, maybe holding drive mode button? I like the display in the Tesla. Large, responsive, and everything is in one spot. It is different though and takes a bit to get used to.

True! I should have put estimated. It is going to be crazy. The Silverado has done very well in real world range, which is great.

205 kWh. I suspect it will do a bit better than 2 miles/kWh at 70 mph (or even better, based on outofspec getting 2.1 in similar Silverado EV). It is a full size, gas versions get 13 mpg.

My home charging is $0.05/kWh. So about $5 for 0-100% charge. Ridiculously cheap. I only charge at DC chargers on road trips.

Also, 80% capacity is maybe 200 miles. That is about 10 gallons in a V6, so not that different than gas. Also, if I drive in a shorter road trip, like from Cedar Rapids to Des Moines, I might drive 260 miles, but most of that was charged at home, so I might only pay $15 for charging for the trip, $5 from home and $5-10 at the charger, just enough range to get back home + safety margin. Gas I would be like $30-40.

You didn't specify type of hybrid (Prius or something like Rav4)? It needs to be a similar type of vehicle. This is more Highlander size. So at Highlander hybrid EPA of 35 mpg that would be like 6+ gallons, about $18. Given home charging of $4 for 80%, on average I will be $14 cheaper. Over 220,000 miles that is 1000 charges or $14,000 cheaper only home charging. Realistically, given my split of DC vs home, I might be $10,000 cheaper. Also probably $5,000 cheaper maintenance. There is no reason to assume an EV battery will need replacing, and if they do they will be cheaper than they are today. Costs are getting below $100/kWh at pack level, making them relatively inexpensive and certainly cheaper than gas. Do you plan on replacing your ICE at a certain time? Most cars go about 200-250k miles. Very few make more than that. There is a guy on Twitter (iovepianoblack) on original battery at 412,000 miles in a Model 3. It is degraded to like 70%, but still usable and racking up miles at like 55k/year. Only DC charging an EV isn't cost effective, but probably not that much more than gas.

I have an e-gmp, as long as they aren't cold they are crazy fast. This station is trash right now.

Similar, my data is here, I was forced to take a different route with the DWS 06+ so not totally comparable. carswithplugs.com/2021/08/13/continental-dws-06-plus-tires-on-tesla/ carswithplugs.com/2021/05/06/model-3-range-aero-wheel-covers/ I might have some more recent tests on RUclips with the continentals under different conditions.

@@cyberzev Thank you so much for that info. What's the tread life like?

@patrickshelley09 I got 30k on MXM4 and 40k miles on DWS 06 Plus. They have a bit more tread from the factory.

@@cyberzev Thanks again. I got 41k (could have gone to 45k if not for winter) on the MXMs, so that give me a good gauge to go by.

Unfortunately, the Blazer EV uses an encrypted CAN bus that can not easily be scanned beyond standard PIDs. This case was charger side derating/issue (almost certainly as behavior was different), but it would be nice to be able to monitor Blazer side, which occurs after about 20 min +/-. I would love to be able to hook up a scanner.

This site has had many issues since going on 6 weeks ago or so. It was fine yesterday. They need to get these sites commissioned on first try and reliable.

50 kW is great, even if not ideal. Much faster than AC. Great for infrequently used chargers.

Maybe? It wasn't very long time, could minutes. I will keep an eye on that next time I charge there.

My previous car was a Tesla 🤷‍♂️ I stick largely to Tesla and EA chargers without issue. These companies need to do better at getting installs right.

I regularly charge at the Superchargers with the Blazer on trips. This was more to make a point on sucky infrastructure.

I can just use Tesla chargers, too. Other companies need to get their networks to that point. These chargers are still problematic with 2 showing as offline.