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One of the earliest known figures to self-identify as a Palestinian in written records is al-Muqaddasi, born in Jerusalem around 946 CE. A Palestinian Arab scholar, al-Muqaddasi was a pioneer in systematic geography. In Ottoman maps the region was named Palestine. It was not an administrative district but a geographic area for the Ottomans. The Filistin Risalesi which translates in English to the Palestinian Treatise, was a military manual published in 1915 for officers of the Ottoman 8th Army Corps. see more here: ruclips.net/video/ICaIkwEK35A/видео.html

In his famous work, Meteorology (Greek: Μετεωρολογικά (340 BC), Aristotle describes the special qualities of the Dead Sea water: "Again if, as is fabled, there is a lake in Palestine, such that if you bind a man or beast and throw it in it floats and does not sink, this would bear out what we have said." The Greeks were using the name Palestine 400 years before the Romans conquered Palestine. The Romans did not invent the name they inherited it from the Greeks. The quote about the Prince of Eden was written around 970 CE, 300 years after the Arab conquest and the founding of Islam. Palestine, like the name Canaan before it did not have clearly defined boundries. It was generally understood to be the Coastal Levant from Syria, to Gaza. That has little or nothing to do whether or not a Palestinian identity existed before the 20th century or who should get what today. The writings of a Palestinian scholar from the 10th century proves that Arabs from Palestine identified as Palestinians. Just like Egyptians Arabs called themselves Egyptians even though it was no longer an independent country. They did not have self-rule but that did not change who they were or where they came from. This shouldn't be a shocker. In the end whatever they call themselves today is up to them. If they called themselves Canaanites they would still have the same rights under international law. I am relating history based on historical writings and surviving documents, like maps and books. You said that: "you just proved what everybody already knows, the place was called Palestine" ...and what do you think they called the people from Palestine?

@@History.Culture.projects-y5m The place was called Palestine. The people were Arabs and Jews.

@@SHAJARA-ai *"So if you are a traveler like al-Muqadassi and you are away from home and a Yemini or Egyptian Arab asks you where you are from - what do you suppose Arabs from Palestine answered?"* This depends entirely on what century you're referring to. 2000 years ago, and only up until recent times there was no such thing as a sovereign country. There were only empires, Kingdoms, towns and villages. Most people named the village or town they were from. If you lived under Roman rule, and were hundreds or thousands of miles away, you might say "Palestine". In greater proximity you'd likely just name the town. If you lived under Turkish Ottoman rule you might still say Palestine. You may say something else entirely. if you live in Lebanon or Jordan today do you say you're from Palestine? Doubt it. Palestine doesn't even exist, why is the term being used today? Why are people in Gaza not accurately referring to themselves as Gazans? Because the term has been politicized. It's being used to solidify a false narrative. It's being used to try and make the fallacious claim that the Jewish people came along and stole a country. Which, lets be honest, is the narrative they're trying to validate with this video.

was no one living in "fake Palestine" before the European Jews came. Was it empty? Of course the term has been politicized. The right to self-determination and human rights are political questions. The term Israel has been politicized. Every narrative about both peoples has been politicized. 70% of the population of Gaza are not from Gaza they are from what is today Israel. They were forced from their homes in Palestine into Gaza. Everyone, Jews and Arabs had Palestinian passports before 1948. SInce you admit the area has been known as Palestine for thousands of years. It was known as Palestine when they were forced from their homes, Why woud they not call themselves Palestinians? They did not change the name of the place they lived. But tthis video is not about what Palestinians call themselves today. Its about the history of the identity. Do you think al-Muqadassi made up what he wrote 1,000 years ago because he knew what was going to happen in the 20th century? You want to challenge the autheticity of the sources, the written record, the maps. Be my guest. If they are false and were faked I'll delete the video.

@@History.Culture.projects-y5m Hardly anybody has ever lived in this area. It's mostly desert and lacks water. Mark Twain describes it aptly claiming to travel for days and never coming across a person or a town and that wasn't even that long ago. Both Arabs and Jews have a right to self determination do they not? But your side wants Israel destroyed. The Arabs were granted several independent sovereign nations and self determination which you continuously love to ignore. The so called "Palestinians" were offered a state in 1948, they refused. You keep demanding self determination but your path to this is always war and violence. Recognize the state of Israel and make peace. Simple. But this isn't what you want is it? If they were all "forced from their homes" how are there 2 million Arabs living as citizens in Israel? Did they fall from the sky? People fled the war in 1948 that was started by the Arabs. People fleeing their homes is on you. 900,000 Jews have had to flee every Arab nation. This exodus has never been interrupted and yet, the population of Arabs within Israel keeps growing. None of them are leaving, let alone fleeing. How do you reconcile this?

It is not data because it is a fairytale.

There's no real evidence of those characters. They share DNA simply because they're descendants of canaanites.

Read your Bible then maybe you will know something. Abraham had Ismael with an Egyptian maid servant whereas Sarah, his wife was his half sister. People like you float lies hoping that readers don't know any better.

Whoever the mother is makes no difference if Abraham fathered them.. THAT would make them ALL descendants of Abraham.

It was during the persecutions of the 300 years of Christian Byzantine rule that due to forced baptisms, and forced conversions and coerced conversions because of punitive laws that the Jewish population shrunk drastically. It was very stable under Muslim rule as they did not have a policy of forced conversion.

@History.Culture.projects-y5m Are claiming that Jews voluntarily converted to Islam? LOL. Did you forget about the Battle of Khaybar? There were many anti-Jewish persecutions under Muslim rule, and in their daily status they were dhimmi, second-class citizens. Besides, any forced conversions by the Byzantines wouldn't explain how they're Muslim now. What would explain it was the policy of kidnapping Jewish boys and raising them to be Muslim fighters, and kidnapping Jewish girls and marrying them.

No I am not claiming that. The Jewish (and Pagan) population under Byzantine rule collapsed because of forced conversions. Under Muslim rule the Jewish population remained the same for 2,000 years. It s not that there was no persecution under Muslim rule. It is a fact that compared to the Roman and European Christians, the Islamic empires had a much more secure environment for Jews. The population numbers confirm it. Very few Jews converted to Islam which is why the population numbers remained stable. But masses of Jews were converted to Christianity. Later many of those Christians became Muslim. But no matter how they became Christians or Muslims the more important point for today is that the Palestinians are their descendents and are indigenous to Palestine.

@@History.Culture.projects-y5m we aren't their descendants but we are indigenous. Those people you're thinking of originated in Sumer

@Frodojack none of that happened. ✡️ don't make good fighters and we wouldn't contaminate our bloodline with their women.

@@chrisgardner4222 they're the ones pushing this myth

This is a fairy tale; real genetic studies do not support it. European Jews are genetically European. Palestinians are the native people in the Holy Land and inherit more than 80% of their genetics from the Canaanites.

And the Js are descendants of the cannanites. And the cannanites are descendants of Egyptians and Natufians.

@BobSacamano666 that's all false

@BobSacamano666 Js were descendants of Arfakhshad. Canaanites descended from Canaan and probably Natufians. Egyptians are not related to us. Our cities predate theirs, so how can we descend from them?

@@vanessac1965 I have no idea where you got this from but it's not accurate. Palestinians are Canaanites and Philistines, who are indigenous and native to the land. My ancestors weren't ✡️. My ancestors were polytheists, then Christian and Muslim.

@@vanessac1965 Js came from Sumer and are basically Arabs

all DNA reserch.. show the same result. Mizrahi Jews and Palestinian Arab show the same genetic Pattern while Askenazi is 79% European,19% Levantian, 2% Turk

Neither of which is an ethnicity.

@@anthonymorris5084We aren't Arabs and only 57% of us are Muslims

@@anthonymorris5084 our culture is Palestinian culture. Judging from your last name, you have no idea what culture even is

@@tonedowne Arabs are an ethnic group and Muslims are the followers of a religion.

@@NikoBellaKhouf2 Who is "we", and where is this place where 57% are Muslims? There is no separate or recognizable "Palestinian" culture. There is no Palestinian ethnicity. There is no Palestinian language. There are no Palestinian archeological finds. And your last sentence is the tantrum from someone without an argument.

@@ufdas-wu1cr Oh it's most certainly propaganda. The motive of the owner of this channel is to deceive people into believing the lie that there is some kind of Palestinian ethnicity. He's trying to validate the fallacy and give credence to the false notion that there is some kind of "Palestinian People" for the purpose of creating a victim narrative. The people of Gaza and the West Bank are Arab. Jews and Arabs are Palestinian and Palestine doesn't exist anymore. DNA testing is irrelevant. A Jew is somebody who self identifies as a Jew. An Israeli is somebody who has Israeli citizenship. Both Jews and Arabs can be Israeli. The person's ethnicity has no bearing. Jews and Arabs have lived throughout the entire Middle East for centuries.

100%%

Only monotheism screwed you people.

Wrong, because Arab can refer to a much wider umbrella of identities centered on a shared language - Arabic. A Moroccan is Arab (unless he's Amazigh) but he is different from a Palestinian. Palestinians have a different genetic amcestry, as well as particular lingustic and cultural characteristics that gives them a unique identity

@@yabangeedamat1907 What purpose does it serve to post this exact same comment to me twice on separate threads?

Nobody wants to "exterminate" anybody. Are you for real?

These studies are interesting but don't account for conversions, true.

Nobody "colonized" Palestine. Both Jews and Arabs lived in Palestine. After the defeat of the *Turkish* Ottoman empire by the British and French, they created independent sovereign nations. The French created Lebanon and Syria and the British created Jordan. The UN created Israel so all the people's of Palestine gained sovereignty.

​@@anthonymorris5084so didn't Jews after that continue to set in Palestine?

The Greeks, Herodotus, Aristotle and Ptolemy, wrote about Palestine centuries before the Romans in 450 BC. As to the Palestinians themselves. Falastin (فلسطين; Arabic for 'Palestine') was an Arabic-language Palestinian newspaper. Founded in 1911 it was one of the most influential dailies in Ottoman and Mandatory Palestine. The newspaper, which addressed its readers as Palestinians since its inception, it helped shape Palestinian identity and was shut down several times by the Ottoman and British authorities Just like the Egyptians, Syrians, Algerians, etc. The Palestinians had national aspirations as the Ottoman Empire approached collapse at the beginning of the 20th century. It led to an uprising against British rule and for an independent Palestine in 1936. By the time the British crushed the uprising 10% of the Palestinian male population had been killed and its leadership was dead, in jail or in exile. There was a geographic region called Italy (Italia) since antiquity but there had never in history been a nation called Italy. The concept of an Italian nation made up of the peoples of the Italian peninsula was a 19th century concept. The same thing was happening all over the Mediterranean as the old empires collapsed and the idea of self-determination of peoples was enshrined into International law by the League of Nations. It swept the Arab world as well at the beginning of the 20th century.

Exactly. The Romans created Palestine and an ethnic group didn't magically sprout from the sand due to a name change.

@@History.Culture.projects-y5m A newspaper does not make a "people". The term "Palestinian" used today is purely political. It didn't even really come to prominence until after 1967. It's designed to promote the fallacious idea that a marginalized ethnic minority people had their nation stolen. People try and dig up this term anywhere they can find it to validate this lie. Since 1948 the narrative pertaining to this conflict was always basically "the big bad Arabs picking on poor little Israel". This narrative didn't sit well with Left wing anti Semitic groups, so they invented a people and tossed the narrative on it's head. All of a sudden it became "The big bad Israelis picking on these poor little Palestinian people." Much more palatable for anti Semites. Then came the lie that these were all fake White European Jews, and clearly "colonizers" to invalidate any historic Jewish presence emphasizing the theft of land. Most importantly, this conflict isn't between the so called "Palestinians" and Israelis. Never has been. This just creates a more appealing narrative for the anti Israeli crowd. The conflict is about Islamic hatred toward Jews. In Islam, once any land has been conquered by Islam, it shall forever remain Islamic land. Hail the global caliphate, onward. It is incumbent on all Muslims to recapture this land in what ever capacity they are able to contribute. The land was ruled by the *Turkish* Islamic empire. This is why the conflict extends to actors in Iran who are Shia Muslim. What border dispute does Israel have with Iran? It's why Erdogan isn't happy. This is the reason why the conflict has lasted for 76 years. This is why the Islamists can't negotiate a settlement. The only thing that would ever be acceptable from the Israelis is if they negotiate their own demise.

There was an Palestinian uprising in 1936 to establish an independent Palestine. The British had to send 20,000 troops and it took 3 years to crush. Its estimated 10% of the male population of Palestinians was killed to end the rebellion. An armed revolt 31 years before 1967 that took years for the mighty British empire to put down. That's a mass nationalist movement. The name of every nation state is political. The Greeks in 450 BC: Herodotus, Ptolemy and Aristotle all wrote about Palestine. Centuries before the Romans. There have been dozens, maybe 100s of city-states, and kingdoms in Canaan/Palestine and dozens of empires ruled it in 5,000 years. The Palestinians have ancestors from all those states including the kingdome of Judah and Israel. The DNA tells the story. The Palestinians are genetically closer to the people of Iron Age Judea then the Ashkenazi Jews. The Palestinians can call themselves whatever they want. Thats not a decision that can be imposed on them. They have been there for 5,000 years and international law gives them the right of self-determination.

@@History.Culture.projects-y5m What you dishonestly refer to as the "Palestinian uprising" historians all call an "Arab uprising" From reading more of your posts, it's clear that you're here to simply push the false narrative that there is such a thing as the "Palestinian people". This is your focus, to try and further validate the lie. Palestine is a place. Invented, created, named and demarcated by the Romans. It would be like me claiming that my DNA proves I'm Ontarian, or even Canadian. There is no DNA test in existence that would make the claim that somebody is "Palestinian". *"The Palestinians can call themselves whatever they want."* Of course they can. That's exactly what they do. They call themselves Palestinian for a very specific political purpose. They are trying to facilitate a lie in order to garner support for their malicious cause. What they can't do is invent an ethnicity. What they can't claim, is that their country was stolen. Anybody who lived as a citizen of the Ottoman empire and resided in Palestine is a Palestinian. Jews, Arabs, Turks, maybe even Armenians and others. Christians, Muslims and Jews, all Palestinian. No such "Palestinian people" exist. You've exposed yourself as an individual who is simply trying to corrupt the story for political purposes.

Keep LYING.

Lol. What are you talking about? Christian Arabs are even older than Muslim Arabs and they were already living in Palestine even before the Rashidun conquest. 😂😂

​@harleyking88 I talk about the Muslim Arabs not about the Christian Arabs. Most Arabs Muslim came to palestina from the last quarter of the 19th century. All the information from the books (FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL) WROTE BY JOAN PETERS. The book wrote by the Dutch Geographer ADRIANI RELANDI AND FROM THE BOOK WROTE BY PROFESSOR BERNARD LEWIS

The Dutch geographer HADRIANI RELANDI visit in palestina in the 18th century and he say that most of the land was desolate and in the cities was only Christian and jews, he don't see Arabs Muslim. Only in the city of Nablus he saw Muslim Arabs.

@@yoavpeled-h2c ok, you're lying and you perfectly know that. It's well registrated the Muslim presence in the region very before the 19th century. The thing is around 1700s the Ottoman Empire neglected the public security in some areas like Jerzel. Due to that,tribes started attacking each others and the criminality increased in those parts. So they started concentrating in the cities

What is?

Palestinian dna. Is specific to that part of the levant. The lie that these r foreign invaders is a lie.

You might want to look at the charts in the study.

There is a Rabbi who is interested in the subject, together with profssor from university n israel they went germany to the city of Arford and found that the Ashkenazi jews were created by mixing two groups of jews tatwere different genetic. The first group we called them the eastern group and the second group we called them the western group, t eastern group consisted of Sephardic jews and the western group had no genes from the middle East. Both groups shared genes from italy. The to groups were mixed with the ratio of 60% from the eastern group and 40% from the western group. Thathow the modern Ashkenazi jews was created. Th final result After they mixed are: between 15% to 45% genes from the middle East, between 45% to 70% from italy mainly southern Italy. And 15% from germany. If you compare the Ashkenazi jews to people from northern italy than the middle East part is growing to 45%, that means that the Ashkenazi jews are the most close genetic to people that live today in southern Italy. THE NAME OF THE RABBI IS HENRY ABRAMSON. IN YOU TUBE THERE IS VIDEO ( THE GENETIC HISTORY OF THE ASHKENAZI JEWS) BY HENRY ABRAMSON.

​@@lisalisa1656THE Levant is a large area including syria jordan lebanon. The genetic of the Palestinian srian and lebanese are the same. There is same difference between the Muslim Palestinian and syrian to Christians Palestinian and syrian. The Muslim have an average 30% genes from Saudi arabia and the rest what we call Levant. The Christians only from the Levant. It found that the,Egyptian have also a lot of genes from the Levant.

​@@lisalisa1656Syria palestina was the name of all the region what today syria jordan lebanon irak and israel. All this,area was without borders during the ottoman rule. Most palestinian are the same genetic to the syrian jordanian and lebanese. The difference that the lebanese have more genetic from the Levant than the Palestinian and the syrian because the Muslim Palestinian and Muslim syrian have also an average of 30% genes from Saudi arabia .

Ever heard of a Jew named Jesus? You know, the Jew who gave the Romans all kinds of grief 2,000 years ago? Died on a cross? Ring any bells? Ya, he wasn't born in Paris.

קיצונית הכי פחות גזענית. את לא רוצה שלום? אז תפחדי. אין תקווה לשנאה גברת.