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Do you play any classic versions of the game now or are you purely retail? I was playing that up until anniversary realms came out, I'll go back at some point but when I'm not sure

what would your top 3 zones if you had to pick?

Beautiful put, the classic world feels designed for those exact purposes, when you sit down at your computer to play an mmo or RPG you need that sense of immersion and in this day and age escape from the real world, people could slate role players all they want but they've probably never even given it a go to give a valid opinion.

No one believes "role players" are the worst kind of players. No one says that. If you heard 🙉 one person say that... It was a nobody

No one believes "role players" are the worst kind of players. No one says that. If you heard 🙉 one person say that... It was a nobody

No one believes "role players" are the worst kind of players. No one says that. If you heard 🙉 one person say that... It was a nobody. Cheers to them. 🍻

No one believes "role players" are the worst kind of players. No one says that. If you heard 🙉 one person say that... It was a nobody. Cheers to them. 🍻

I think that's what a lot of people forget we are playing games for fun 😀

Great idea, having guides out there like rested xp definitely isn't helping so many people taking the exact same route as everyone else trying to find the quickest way possible, instead of just thinking for themselves, then when people get to max level it's playing a certain class or talent spec that does the most dmg and not just picking what you enjoy playing and bollocks to what the dmg is

There are tons of reasons why people do things as they are now, from not wanting to be left behind, so why do old content? The best gear is in new content, to rushing quests just to progress. Fel, you even have a bunch of people still whom through pride refuse to play the other faction, races or classes. But trust me, i've done my own challenge, thrice now, if you take your time questing you will have a better experience, if you know what evil you are fighting, like actually KNOW, when you actually remember the name of the NPC you are saving, if you know the story behind the weird elf that randomly shows up halfway the raid, everything gets SO MUCH BETTER! Furthermore, props to Blizz. can't say they have no faults but despite the community playing the way it does and blizz defenitely keeping such in mind. if you slow down and play the game the way it has always been supposed to be played. you will find it works, still, and you wont be left in the dust by people doing new content, in fact, you will find the secret items, get excited about the trinkets you find, the blues and purples you get, like you once used to. There is no reason to kill your own joy in playing how the game is currently being played. except perhaps to show you have not what it takes to actually play the game.

They've had 20 years to write something better. It always gets worse, with every expansion. I loved playing Vanilla WoW and TBC. Everything after that was so half done and broken to the point it's just depressing

Thanks mate, that's exactly what made me think of the video I've played for years and have never been great at the game but couldn't care less I just enjoy it for what it is, nice to see other people in the same boat

@ I was thinking the same thing. It’s a good boat to be in.

Good point, ill make sure to get it next time I'm on, well so long as I don't forget 😂

They are not for everyone I guess

Its almost difficult to put into words at times isn't it, each time you think of why you love it you could come up with different reasons, I could make this video again 2 months down the line and my reasons may be different

@@TheLuminousLynx111 hehe yeah :)

I don't keep it that close all the time depends what I'm doing, out questing I have it far out to see all the mobs

That tickled me that comment 😂

Ye you have to view them as 2 different universes almost now don't you, retail is more similar to play dynasty warriors on ps2 than it is to classic wow 😆

@@TheLuminousLynx111 Yeah. Saw a documentary about carnaval in Holland last week. A teenage girl said if you slightly change traditions every year eventually you have a totally different festive. Its what happened to WoW

Ye that's definitely true when you think about it the world,the graphics, combat, races,system,talents etc it's probably harder to think of what hasn't changed and also a much shorter list

Which version of wow is your favourite?

I'm the same I dip into retail for a bit to try out new expansions but always find my way back on to classic era 🙂 classic plus 🤞

Ooooh what many would give to play it for the first time again, the first time hits different, thanks mate ill have a look at that now 👍

Nice to see more like minded people 🙂

You gone pve or pvp for the anniversary realms ?

@TheLuminousLynx111 im on a pve server!

No getting ganked for you then 😆

Me too hahaha lol

Cheers mate, nice channel by the way 👍

You know I've never played everquest, I might have to give it a go if that's the case, do many people still play it?

​@@TheLuminousLynx111 nope its a small community. But its the kind of game where you log on to play with your group of people no matter the content. I quit because I got hardcore and then life got busy.

It does feel like with mmo it's all or nothing at times doesn't it, hard to dip your toe in and out

That's when you know the game is for you when you walk away from it feeling like your time spent was worth it/ fun and not just a waste of time

For the last 3 days, Friday to Sunday, I have done almost nothing but leveling up my tradeskills on 2 different characters. Just gathering materials and crafting items, none of it felt like wasted time, I ended up in a dungeon and a quest group on my paladin while running around looking for iron. Fucking magical.

Which server do you go for pvp or pve? It's such a relief to get the tradeskills high and not be behind on them

Ye 100%, especially when you start off and you go through towns and see guards,flight path masters all who are much stronger than you, elite quests needing groups, retail you are a one man army

Take a look at the anniversary realms, you're telling me all those people are pretending to enjoy themselves 😂

Hardcore is bleeding out by the the day and the regular fresh realms are already looking sparse. As long as we never ever look at the state of things one month in then things are smooth sailing boys! Blizz just has to sell the sheep the idea that everyone's definitely hyped for classic launch number 500 and collect one or two months free sub for next to no work. And of course that's great for a grifter like you. :)

Looking sparse 🤔 obviously not been on the servers if you believe that to be true, and I don't think you understand the word grifter if you are calling me one, you sound like you the sort who complains on any video for kicks, but each to their own if that's what you enjoy good luck to you

Hey how are things with you ? I'm doing good still keeping busy with the channel as you can see

@@TheLuminousLynx111im also Busy, but when is your Next Live stream im waiting for it hopefully i can be there

@@Qt617 im not sure i need to start streaming more again, ill maybe do one at the weekend or my day off during the week on thursday see how im feeling

I don't know if you are referring to this channel as " no life streamers" as that's definitely not the case, I myself work a full time and have several interests outside of work and gaming, as you can see by the uploads they are the odd hour here and there of playthroughs so not every person who creates content is a no lifer, some of us do it for fun, is it nice to get views? Of course it is it gives the videos you've worked on a sense of accomplishment, as for speed runs that's never been my thing, I enjoy leveling and pvp

I see retail as single player RPG when leveling these days, it can still be fun but it's just a completely different experience to classic, anniversary has been great so far every zone seems to be busy and people looking for dungeons it's nice to see

I think that's what a lot of people are forgetting that as fun as games are they are fun things to do after your real life commitments, so taking your time and enjoying the game is what it's all about, not spending all day or rushing to get to max level, hope you manage to get back to azeroth and enjoy yourself again there

Thank you for the compliment. We made it with a mixture of Canva and Lexica (AI) 👍

Like you say everyone has done it before so there is no need to be smashing it to max level just for clout, and by taking your time that also means playing an hour here and there instead of all day like more would of been years ago, I think people are happy now to go at their pace and not that of all the top streamers

I think it's a combination of different things, 1 being we've been there and done it all before so why bother rushing to complete everything as its not like you've beaten anyone to something we've not done before and I would also say vanilla is meant to be played slowly, the world is so vast with so many different things to do and to go to why bother rushing and missing it all out to just do 60 content

@TheLuminousLynx111 That second part is kind of what I am getting at... I think when most of us were actually playing vanilla back in the day, we didn't know enough about the game to be worrying about optimization. We were thumbing around the world cluelessly and discovering things as we went. And I know that was in the past, we were younger, and that magic isn't coming back. But that's still the pace a lot of people experienced the game at. Even the people who were hardcore raiders probably levelled up their first character slowly, simply because they hadn't done it before. I am not here to argue there is a "right" or a "wrong" way to play, but when so much of the community dedicated themselves to playing as fast and efficiently as possible... I do think that they miss out on a lot. And they are driven by FOMO, because everyone else is speed running. So they feel that they need to as well.

Ye there's no going back to how it was the first time round sadly, I didn't have an add ons or use any type of guide first time round the only way to find out where to go was thottbot😆 I guess like a lot of things in life there is no right or wrong for whole only right and wrong for the individual, most people don't have the time to rush to max level but they see the top streamers doing it and feel as if they are behind when in reality they aren't

As much hate as shadowlands get people can't dent the zones are still beautiful, each different version of wow has its good and bad points, one of retails bad points is sadly never really seeing anyone if you are out and about leveling the only time you do see people is in dornogal, but doesn't mean you can't have fun though eh just more like a single player rpg

​@@TheLuminousLynx111 true, and when you think about it, the story is very YOU focused. You're the mawwalker. The only one to be able to do this and who save the shadowlands. But yes, quite the single player RPG vibe. So far I don't mind tho. But classic has that community though.

Ye exactly that, depends what type of Gameplay you want doesn't it, sometimes you just want to go around smashing stuff to pieces 😂 and retail is much better for that, other times a more slow paced then classic is your go to

I always play like this, good to know the lore and its more immersive!

What class have you gone ? I keep weighing up to make one on hardcore or not🤔 ye 100% no reason to rush especially in hardcore , just enjoy the journey

@TheLuminousLynx111 hunter. Would recommend playing hardcore so fun , every quest is life or death

I've done a rogue before and got to 30 something can't remember exactly, it was when people were using the add on though not official servers so suppose it doesn't count

Cheers my man 💪

It does seem like more people are having this attitude from a lot of the comments I've been reading, there are always gonna be a certain number of people who will rush to max level but hopefully just not as many as usual, be interesting to see how many expansions we will he going through as we know it's going into TBC but will it go in to wrath or not they haven't said yet

I think I saw TBC is coming out Winter 2025 or Spring 2026. So that's lots of time to enjoy vanilla at your own pace until the expansion.

@@LobsterFusion ye tbc is next year, long enough away to not worry about taking your time, but close enough people whos favourite expansion is tbc can be excited

🤣🤣 always someone who has to grass eh

Thanks 😀

@ can’t wait for more vids!

Upload several times a week at the minute and should be streaming tonight 🙂

A very apt description

I can see arguments for why people play any of the different versions of wow, I guess everyone is different and wants different things from a game some love that slow place and immersion feel of classic and others love the high pace and constant rewards you get from retail, I go back and forth with my arguments on why certain aspects of each game are better than another

retail wow is the most pointless game out there! bloated with 20 years of fomo content that you will never catch up to unless you have been playing from day 1.. Predatory tactics cosmetics mounts wow tokens useless achievements and the lore is so out of touch that it doesnt even feel like world of warcraft ...It feels like a wet dream of a soyboy who likes to put woomen clothes when he is alone.. Progress resets every 2 years 90 percent of the world is useless pvp is impossible to get into/and if you master it noone cares there are better pvp games out there! raiding is pointless/you just do mythic plus/and its a very toxic experience high cost of expansions and the sub doesnt justify playing this game/there are far better rpgs out there no sense of cummunity/single player hub for people that dont want to socialize and rather play alone because they have no time! And finnaly blizzard can ban your account for any reason and you wont be able to appeal anything because they have no customer service A MULTI BILLION COMPANY THAT YOU SUBSCRIBE TO AND PAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS HAVE NO LIVE CUSTOMER SERVICE if you think retail wow is worth playing ..you contribute to the death of mmorpgs and you deserve to be treated like a cow that blizzard milks

😂 I wonder how many people would actually want a shadowlands classic, wouldn't surprise if they did go all the way through the expansions as they make money from the in game shop

It makes it much easier for the low levels to make money as well, since they can put those items on AH for a tidy profit saving the high levels time farming. Saying that everything is dirt cheap on anniversary at the moment so you don't make too much profit but that will change in a few weeks no doubt

Corpse gank, just roll pve

I guess that's the beauty of having so many different versions of the game there is one for everybody, I have to admit I've not heard many with the take of going back to classic was the worst experience they've had in 20 years but I guess each person's experience is different, I'm on the anniversary servers at the moment and loving it