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King Struggler Sound System (Est.1974): Interview with Andy Gibbs AKA Jahman @Toxteth, Liverpool, UK
50th anniversary interview with Andy Gibbs AKA 'Jahman' AKA 'Gibby' - founder of Liverpool's oldest continuous foundation Reggae sound system : King Struggler Sound (formerly known as 'Crasher') - which was established in 1974 in the Toxteth area of Liverpool, UK.....
The interview in the first 14 mins of this video was filmed by brothers Errol Graham & Patrick Graham (from 'Black Out Productions') in 2022 as part of their ongoing documentary project called 'Ghettology - L8 Sound Systems' about the history of Liverpool's Reggae sound systems.....
Also featured in the interviews is Stephen Nze AKA 'The Principal' - who for some years was part of the King Struggler crew back in the day....
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Bristol St Paul's Carnival Walkabout : St Pauls, Bristol, UK - 1990Bristol St Paul's Carnival Walkabout : St Pauls, Bristol, UK - 1990
Bristol St Paul's Carnival Walkabout : St Pauls, Bristol, UK - 1990
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Bristol St Paul's Carnival Walkabout : St Paul's, Bristol, UK - 1990.... Some unique & rare video footage of the Reggae sound systems, Afro Caribbean stalls, shops & lively personalities that made up the unique atmosphere of Bristol St Paul's Carnival in 1990..... Big Respect goes out to Derek Sutherland AKA 'Senator' from Studiomix Sound outta Bristol for providing this video out of the archiv...
Video : Iquator Sound & Megatone Sound @ Bristol Carnival, St Pauls, Bristol, UK - 1990Video : Iquator Sound & Megatone Sound @ Bristol Carnival, St Pauls, Bristol, UK - 1990
Video : Iquator Sound & Megatone Sound @ Bristol Carnival, St Pauls, Bristol, UK - 1990
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Iquator Sound & Megatone Sound @ Bristol Carnival, St Pauls, Bristol, UK - 1990.... Some wicked vibes at Bristol Carnival with the local Bristol crew - Iquator Sound - playing on the forecourt of the famous 'Black & White Cafe' on Grosvenor Rd, St Pauls, Bristol & entertaining the crowd..... Also featured is one of the visiting sounds to the carnival from Manchester - Megatone Sound - getting t...
Video: Iquator Sound vs Excalibur : Bristol Sound Clash final @ Malcolm X Centre, Bristol, UK - 1990Video: Iquator Sound vs Excalibur : Bristol Sound Clash final @ Malcolm X Centre, Bristol, UK - 1990
Video: Iquator Sound vs Excalibur : Bristol Sound Clash final @ Malcolm X Centre, Bristol, UK - 1990
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Video: Iquator Sound vs Excalibur : Bristol Sound Clash final @ Malcolm X Centre, Bristol, UK - 1990... Both sounds are featured on this Bristol Reggae sound clash video with a nice mix of dubplate specials, live MCs & 45s..... BIG respect goes out to Linda Berry - wife of Bangy (RIP) for supplying this video from the archives ! ..... BIG respect goes out to Guvna Gregah for processing the vide...
TV Report : Bristol's Reggae sound systems - archiving 1980's & 1990's sound tapes & videosTV Report : Bristol's Reggae sound systems - archiving 1980's & 1990's sound tapes & videos
TV Report : Bristol's Reggae sound systems - archiving 1980's & 1990's sound tapes & videos
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BBC TV report on 'Points West' about Ashish Joshi's archiving of 1980's & 1990's sound tapes & videos of Bristol's Reggae sound systems - with Norson Stewart AKA 'Snoopy' (Unique Star Sound), Maurice Gayle AKA 'Skyjuice' & Ashish Joshi (Saffron)..... Big Massive Respect goes out to Guvna Gregah for recording & enhancing the TV report.....
Mavrick Internash MCs @ Leeds Carnival, UK - 1985 : Fluid Irie, Richie, Mexican (& Baby Rooster)Mavrick Internash MCs @ Leeds Carnival, UK - 1985 : Fluid Irie, Richie, Mexican (& Baby Rooster)
Mavrick Internash MCs @ Leeds Carnival, UK - 1985 : Fluid Irie, Richie, Mexican (& Baby Rooster)
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Mavrick Internash MCs : DJ competition @ Leeds Carnival, Chapeltown, Leeds, UK - 1985.... Featuring : Fluid Irie, Little Richie, Mexican and guest MC Baby Rooster..... Big Respect goes out to Fluid Irie for the video ! Big Respect goes out to Guvna Gregah for editing and enhancing the video !.....
Nitty Gritty (RIP) live on Mavrick Internash sound @ Leeds Carnival, Chapeltown, Leeds, UK - 1989Nitty Gritty (RIP) live on Mavrick Internash sound @ Leeds Carnival, Chapeltown, Leeds, UK - 1989
Nitty Gritty (RIP) live on Mavrick Internash sound @ Leeds Carnival, Chapeltown, Leeds, UK - 1989
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Nitty Gritty (RIP) live on Mavrick Internash Sound @ Leeds Carnival after-party, Chapeltown, Leeds, UK - 1989... The only video footage currently in existence of the late great Jamaican singer Nitty Gritty singing live on a UK Reggae sound system in the 1980s.... Nitty Gritty had strong links to the city of Leeds and voiced quite a few dubplate specials for local foundation Reggae sound system ...
Mavrick Internash Sound System @ Leeds West Indian Carnival, Chapeltown, Leeds, UK - August 1984....Mavrick Internash Sound System @ Leeds West Indian Carnival, Chapeltown, Leeds, UK - August 1984....
Mavrick Internash Sound System @ Leeds West Indian Carnival, Chapeltown, Leeds, UK - August 1984....
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Mavrick Internash Sound System @ Leeds West Indian Carnival, Chapeltown, Leeds, UK - August 1984.... Featuring : Skully Roots, Eddie (introducing the crew at the beginning), Ezz (selecting), Mikey Dread, (RIP), Fluid Irie, Straggie Roots, Bagga Dread (on the mic), Irie D (chatting lyrics on the mic - RIP) & the rest of the Mavrick crew.... Mavrick Internash was formed in Chapeltown, Leeds at ar...
The Frontline, Manningham, Bradford, UK - 1970’s to 2002 : Richard 'Bingy’ Brown & Victor WedderburnThe Frontline, Manningham, Bradford, UK - 1970’s to 2002 : Richard 'Bingy’ Brown & Victor Wedderburn
The Frontline, Manningham, Bradford, UK - 1970’s to 2002 : Richard 'Bingy’ Brown & Victor Wedderburn
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Wicked in-depth interview about Bradford's Frontline in Manningham, Bradford, UK - from 1970's to 2002.....with Richard 'Bingy’ Brown & Victor Wedderburn.... Richard Bingy Brown talks in depth about Bradford's Frontline in Manningham and also his involvement in running the Young Lions Cafe, his involvement in setting up Bradford's first ethnic pirate radio station - 'Paradise Radio' (PCR), his ...
The Young Lions Cafe & The Frontline - Bradford, UK : 1970 - 2002 : Morris Powell & Patrick LennonThe Young Lions Cafe & The Frontline - Bradford, UK : 1970 - 2002 : Morris Powell & Patrick Lennon
The Young Lions Cafe & The Frontline - Bradford, UK : 1970 - 2002 : Morris Powell & Patrick Lennon
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Wicked in-depth interview about Bradford's iconic Young Lions Cafe and the Lumb Lane Frontline in Manningham, Bradford, UK - from 1970 to 2002.....with Morris Powell & Patrick Lennon.... Patrick Lennon's father started the Young Lions Cafe as a meeting place for Bradford's Afro - Caribbean community in the late 1960's...... Morris Powell managed the cafe from 1994 - 2000 and was an eyewitness t...
Gloucester 10-Reggae sound system clash @Jamaican Sports & Social Club, Gloucester, UK: 01 July 1984Gloucester 10-Reggae sound system clash @Jamaican Sports & Social Club, Gloucester, UK: 01 July 1984
Gloucester 10-Reggae sound system clash @Jamaican Sports & Social Club, Gloucester, UK: 01 July 1984
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Rare vintage video from 1984 of a 10-Reggae sound system sound clash & DJ clash between Gloucester's top local Reggae sound systems of the day - held at the Jamaican Sports & Social Club, Gloucester, UK : 1st July 1984.... Local sound system - 'Stereo Downbeat' - took the title and won this clash on the night & the full list of sound systems that took part in this historic local Gloucester Regg...
The history of Bradford Reggae Sound Systems : UK National Lottery-funded film documentary - 2022The history of Bradford Reggae Sound Systems : UK National Lottery-funded film documentary - 2022
The history of Bradford Reggae Sound Systems : UK National Lottery-funded film documentary - 2022
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Film documentary : 'Rites of Passage - Bradford (Reggae) Sound Systems' - 2022... Brilliant UK National Lottery-funded official film documentary charting the history of Bradford's Reggae sound systems - from 1970's to the present day..... Big respect goes out to Karl Oxford for creating this great documentary.... Big respect goes out to Guvna Gregah for enabling the video to be shared.... Catch...
Racist anti-Black leaflets & racial disturbances @ the Normanton Hotel Pub, Derby, UK -18 April 1997Racist anti-Black leaflets & racial disturbances @ the Normanton Hotel Pub, Derby, UK -18 April 1997
Racist anti-Black leaflets & racial disturbances @ the Normanton Hotel Pub, Derby, UK -18 April 1997
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TV news report footage & newspaper article in the aftermath of racial disturbances on 18 April 1997 - outside the Normanton Hotel Pub in Derby, UK - which was a Black-owned pub and venue for Reggae sound system dances and popular meeting place for Derby's Afro-Caribbean community. The disturbances followed the distribution of racist anti-Black leaflets in the Normanton area of Derby which cause...
Enforcer sound system (Derby) play pool with King Charles @ Peartree Coffee Bar, Derby, UK - 1981Enforcer sound system (Derby) play pool with King Charles @ Peartree Coffee Bar, Derby, UK - 1981
Enforcer sound system (Derby) play pool with King Charles @ Peartree Coffee Bar, Derby, UK - 1981
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Enforcer sound system (from Derby) play a game of pool with King Charles @ Peartree Coffee Bar, Derby, UK - 1981..... Lloyd Christian - one of the managers of Enforcer Sound (wearing a tie & waistcoat) - schools King Charles on how to play pool at a popular local hangout for Derby's Afro Caribbean youths in the 1980s... Enforcer sound was founded in the late 1970's and played up until 1983 - an...
Enforcer Sound System (Derby, UK) - interview with Lloyd & Cliff Christian...Enforcer Sound System (Derby, UK) - interview with Lloyd & Cliff Christian...
Enforcer Sound System (Derby, UK) - interview with Lloyd & Cliff Christian...
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Enforcer Sound System (Derby, UK) - interview with Lloyd & Cliff Christian...... Wicked in-depth interview with the founders of Enforcer sound system : Lloyd & Cliff Christian - about the history of Derby's biggest and most widely respected Reggae sound system nationally in the UK...... Enforcer sound was founded in the late 1970's and played up until 1983 - and is still remembered fondly to th...

Комментарии

  • @looneytune6955
    @looneytune6955 2 часа назад

    I remember a couple of years before this my tutor got told off for parking the police car outside the young lions cafe. Funny, a bloke who used to play in the same snooker team as me was the manager at the Green Lane bookies, i recall when the cops raided the area on mass in the old metro buses. Knew the area well as my grandad lived just off Whitey Abbey road.

  • @geordieal9187
    @geordieal9187 2 часа назад

    Very interesting 👍 and it looks like nothing much has changed, it’s the same in London and other big cities. As a white working class man it makes me sick

  • @certisully7354
    @certisully7354 7 часов назад

    Dexter got taken to the Laboratory 🔬

  • @certisully7354
    @certisully7354 7 часов назад

    Carrabien people were put there to attack asians. It did not work out asians came owt on top

  • @boss1star
    @boss1star 18 часов назад

    Looking for white eeka mouse bristol resident

  • @Dathom1986
    @Dathom1986 День назад

    I love that shot Church Street in the 80s ( with the music)..even though s*** was going down!

  • @nicholasbennett1130
    @nicholasbennett1130 2 дня назад

    from West Bowling. went to Palm Cove Sugar Cane and Mayflower . but bibbys was a guy caalled bibby . used to be called the Capricorn. went on to be the bet place to rave. used to score a draw outside bookys. Green Lane a guy called fat sam used to have his ganja stashed in a puncture kit, lol. had a lot of friends who where locked up in Operation Gem ...

  • @adilabdulla8845
    @adilabdulla8845 3 дня назад

    Grew up listening to Gibby's sounds still do

  • @ladyniceness
    @ladyniceness 4 дня назад

    I absolutely love this. Gibby's soundsystem Jah Crasher, was a part of my growing up from the Methodist friday evenings, going on to blues, celebrations of Sellassie I birthdays when he would do days for the local community with activities for the kids. Big up to all of them on the soundsystem who provided a part of our lives soundtrack. You are appreciated

  • @Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew
    @Taharqo.saved.the.Hebrew 6 дней назад

    Some how someone in the comment section will make racists comments

  • @Hassanhadi2607
    @Hassanhadi2607 8 дней назад

    24:32 she’s definitely been let down by a lot of blokes lol

  • @mikehutchins8653
    @mikehutchins8653 9 дней назад

    You fight fire with fire

  • @Figuring477
    @Figuring477 10 дней назад

    Top singer ! Rest in peace

  • @traceysmith9264
    @traceysmith9264 11 дней назад

    good old days ! also without trans gender etc thats when gay men did have pride and there sex life was nothing to do with anyone. they didnt have to go down the road with strap on dildos etc where is your pride ??? it legal now so what the problem . just like we can burn are bras and you women now dont need em cos your tits stand up alone lol silly cone hey lol . id frrather have my droopy vinigar tits after all they were only ment to feed your babies , maybe are men now miss there mummies and want to crawl back in and get re born lol maybe thats why some churches look like boobies with a big nipple hahahahaha . any way this was beore acid pills and cocaine ... shortly after thei i stopped clubbing and worked hard and looked after my family etc like normal people do.... but i wish i had done a bank job instead. i wouldnt buy a fasist villa on the beach no a shack with a big wardorobe will do lol but i do love a garden and i am sentimental about my possessions cos they are my fmily who have gone to the bug concefrrt in the best disco in the uni verse .......... also i didnt have kids so if i want to buy my clothes i can but i dont do designer labels .. even if i had the money i wouldnt. i dont like em but if i did id get em from the not so lucky men we have here in spain walking up and down the beach all day !!!!!!!....... notice also no diamonds or gold etc or rolex , we didnt do that back in the day cos we knew gold etc came from african slavery ....... soon you forget init operah win fry !!!!!!! any way you look so different with your your starit hair and lighted skin and botox ... i prefer natural cos if it aint natural it aint real.... i dont smoke weed now havnt done for 10 yrs cos its full of chemi trials ....but at least i have you tube and can play proper music . bless you tube hey. thank you loved remin missing xx

  • @traceysmith9264
    @traceysmith9264 11 дней назад

    i was at this one . before the acid heads came with there snake bite moonshine acidddddd voodoo

  • @brbbloke3223
    @brbbloke3223 11 дней назад

    Big up Bonito Star, remember him from back in them days, brilliant live singer, always tore it up wicked 👌🏾

  • @rggr187
    @rggr187 12 дней назад

    Anyone know the song at @22:40 ?

  • @Michael-bo3fi
    @Michael-bo3fi 16 дней назад

    No recent comments?

  • @memostknownunknown1972
    @memostknownunknown1972 20 дней назад

    Yo where the hell did you find this, 😍😍😍 have you got more?

  • @McLoed22
    @McLoed22 22 дня назад

    Amazing Documentary, but every time any one of these people talk it starts with "We were committing a crime, but not one we think is that bad"... hold up! And you wonder why people have a negative opinion of you? You wonder why opportunities become limited? You could be educated to be a mechanic or electrician. Industrious kids used to go from garage to garage, or phoning through the yellow pages hawking for a job. 100 times you'd get told no, then there would be that one fella who saw something in you or just wanted to give you a leg up and they'd take you on. It's a clear failure of integration leading to social tension and clashes. They clearly aren't downtrodden the Local Government helped them set up a book shop. The Locals from the press line clearly hated the National Front and the Police clearly liked beating them up. Also, Police Planned the Riot??? They aren't the ones burning down buildings and erecting barricades. Police are going to show up in force if there is information of a potential riot. Why paint yourself into a corner or react? Nothing happening would have belayed police concerns, made other communities feel safer and ultimately would have led to great respect and mutual understanding. Instead every see's a riot and it cements the thought "Black people are violent by nature and can't be reasoned with". Which is surely untrue.

  • @JackBlack-gh5yf
    @JackBlack-gh5yf 22 дня назад

    I don't know Toxteth, but was in Full Sutton with Michael Showers.at the beginning of '96.

  • @davidjames3459
    @davidjames3459 23 дня назад

    i was at the rear of heathfield road two days before it happened. I was waiting for some car parts for a mg. so I went for a walk it been a few years I had been that way as I had left birmingham a long time before. as I walked over their was a chap making a steel drum and we got chatting. at that about eight black youths approached us and the a was talking to told them to get me drink as I had come a long way. which they did and we chatted they were renovating the houses in heathfield road and doing a nice job. I left and went up heathfield road to villa cross and turned down lozzels road toward sixways. when I passed the of top anglsey street I was appalled to see piles of tyres and rubbish as high as the houses it used to a vauxhall garage and rats running all over it. the people should never had to live like that. it was a disgrace. please remember the lads I spoke to were very kind and obliging.

  • @JackBlack-gh5yf
    @JackBlack-gh5yf 23 дня назад

    Ruth Bundey looking young!

  • @JackBlack-gh5yf
    @JackBlack-gh5yf 23 дня назад

    Recognise a few faces 🙂

  • @YouNeek-ug8xh
    @YouNeek-ug8xh 25 дней назад

    Dominica flag 👊🏿

  • @traceycanchon1661
    @traceycanchon1661 25 дней назад

    Went to many blues parties, no trouble left 7am in the morning off too the bagel shop petticoat lane, good old time.❤❤❤🍹🍸🍷 Also called house party's that black/ white &more enjoyed.😊😊😊

  • @maximumsecurity9411
    @maximumsecurity9411 26 дней назад

    They managed to close down the café, and eventually close down the line completely. The undercover police then flooded st. Pauls with crack, just like the states. Now its just police informers, and Somalis. Under cover police are now running Bristol completely. 👨🏾‍🎓🙏🏽👼🏽🙏🏽👨🏾‍🎓

  • @G.E.MTFC_
    @G.E.MTFC_ 27 дней назад

    A nice community then. Now having kids that stab each other for the same postcode.

  • @shockdjuk
    @shockdjuk 27 дней назад

    Big up Bingy, I was a DJ on the original PCR from pretty much the beginning when the studio was in his yard on Thursby Street off Leeds Road. I made some good friends and I have cherished memories of being a part of the PCR family back in the day. As a white kid from Leeds I was welcomed with open arms into the Bradford Afro Carribbean community and had many a good time at blues and palm cove etc. ❤️ Here's a RUclips link of one of my early shows on PCR 104.9 FM The jingle at the beginning was voiced by Bingy Wonder himself. ruclips.net/video/q0XExvcp9b0/видео.htmlsi=y7DMrfPRwOYdrajn

  • @sammymena5534
    @sammymena5534 27 дней назад

    Hello bro Blessing A Question?

  • @G.E.MTFC_
    @G.E.MTFC_ 28 дней назад

    Fucking idiot. The irony of this mob. All sucking him off and preaching about the way communities are treated whilst dealing herion and blighting the streets. Rat. All family rats

  • @liam.4454
    @liam.4454 Месяц назад

    Spoiled brats, rioting because they don't get there own way, a lot of people have it worse than these guys, most of these guys sold drugs to the vulnerable, they don't give a fk, they're manipulative

  • @nigefal
    @nigefal Месяц назад

    I realise Thatcher did not help etc. But the whole thing seemed to be tied in knots. Those calling for help seemed disorganised and did not know what they really wanted. Which resulted in piecemeal half heartened help to keep them quiet. Some of the impression give is some of those "community activists" liked the sound of their own voice and did very little, but at the same time wanting everything for free.

  • @ranksheatwave1679
    @ranksheatwave1679 Месяц назад

    Biggs passed away a few years ago Bandit is singing

  • @davidbinns7005
    @davidbinns7005 Месяц назад

    I grew up in Keighley but boxed in Bradford as a young lad from 1974 where there were a great group of afro Caribbean lads boxing out of clubs such as Bradford YMCA, a great community of people and I never remember any problems of racism, everyone got on so well even though you may be boxing each other regularly, I remember many good lads from my early days such as the Campbell brothers Carl and Errol Tony Bogle and many more top lads, the one person that sticks in my mind that I admired and loved to watch box was Clement George a brilliant boxer who in today's situation I would have backed to go on to big things, Clement must have just decided to pack in boxing and have not seen or heard of him for many years, I occasionally think back and wonder what he moved on to and hope Clement is well, any body in contact with him I would love to hear that he had found another hobby and continued with his success, along with many other brilliant members of the great Bradford Afro Caribbean boxing community 👍

  • @rjhtrucking5429
    @rjhtrucking5429 Месяц назад

    Look at that poor english couple, who've lived through both wars , standing on their doorstep watching the disgusting treatment of their country. Utter disgraceful.

  • @Mama-io3bf
    @Mama-io3bf Месяц назад

    The two coleman brothers sound ❤🇬🇧🇯🇲

  • @DeadAlreadyShed
    @DeadAlreadyShed Месяц назад

    That Lee Scott/ sonnyjim sample @3:08 is nice with it

  • @lonesaiyjin
    @lonesaiyjin Месяц назад

    Bristol born nd raised! Dad born nd raised in St Pauls, those streets havent changed except for the library 😂 damn! I was 1 years old. Writing a script including this in my 30s .

  • @zacchiamoore8452
    @zacchiamoore8452 Месяц назад

    how did you find the footage?

  • @fibonaccimachiavelli7001
    @fibonaccimachiavelli7001 Месяц назад

    😂 wicked ❤️👍🏼

  • @stevemurphy6780
    @stevemurphy6780 Месяц назад

    Wicked times for reggae music…article stuff this

  • @petermichaelgibney930
    @petermichaelgibney930 Месяц назад

    I was born down Granby Street as a white child I didn't see so much hatred towards me and the white people in and around that area and the graffiti and destruction of these hones what we put are hearts building and the actually corned and axed a young police officer and family man of two young children to death . Don't say you liverpudlians 😡

  • @Freddy67675
    @Freddy67675 Месяц назад

    Good ole central club, used to go there in the late 80s, now its gone.

  • @user-km8ym5ic4e
    @user-km8ym5ic4e Месяц назад

    I love the 90s at 13:26 the women rocking nike air 90s that mad them creps are still cold till this day and i love the old skool ragga i miss 90s era

  • @jaimz33
    @jaimz33 Месяц назад

    Things changed by the time Buzz opened

  • @kingdomminded7319
    @kingdomminded7319 Месяц назад

    Hayfield was the place to be and link up wid you bredren.

  • @OriginalPrincey
    @OriginalPrincey Месяц назад

    I lived across the road me an my sisters would be there every Sunday . Dad had his mates round mum made dinner was like a party every week. Big up all Newcross ghetto ites ❤

  • @Tayloradrift
    @Tayloradrift Месяц назад

    Showers! What a scumbag

  • @rooneye
    @rooneye Месяц назад

    Its worse in Middlesbrough. British Steel and ICI they were just later And we had WAY better Unions. Scouse and Boro are the SAME people. Irish Dock workers. Same accent even NOTHING sounds more scouse than a Middlesbrough accent we can understand them just fine. That connection should be strenghtened. Btw its not Liverpool who come last on EVERY unwanted stat you want its Boro, child poverty and drug use. adult the same. were now even top of GUN AN KNIFE CRIME we have been drugs and the rest for decades since mid 90s when heroin crack moved in 1994. but yeh your heroin problem (liverpools was actually going down from the 80s. the kids see it and are like nah the stats back it up. but we never had gangs of 12 year old crackdealers on EVERY corner with a body count to match fucking kim khardashian.