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Hi, I’m in Australia. Nana was born 6 years before her parents got married. Hmm, Dad didn’t have any Scottish in his DNA, so neither did I (from his side), but his grandfather’s family were Scottish. I applied for Nana’s birth certificate. It tuns out, her Mum had her when she was only 17 years old in 1900. A month after her birth, the birth was registered in a different Australian state & that is where Nana was brought up. Looking at DNA matches, I found an entirely new family bloodline on Dad’s side of the family that didn’t correspond with Nana’s stepfather’s Scottish heritage (which was totally missing from our DNA results). From this, I’ve identified Nana’s paternal family, & it will be one of the brothers of that family’s generation. 🧬 Nana’s 1st name is common in both her maternal & paternal families & her 2nd name is a flower, & flower names are consistent on both sides, too (although this is a new flower for both sides). Unfortunately, Nana’s Roman Catholic baptism certificate is incomplete (no father identified). I will try census & probate records, however. Thank you very much for suggesting those!! I doubt my father knew his grandfather wasn’t biologically related, & really, Nana mightn’t have known, either, 🌼. Again, thank you very much for your video,.🧬 .

Have you ever come across ancestors who appear to state that they are widows/ers in both census and second marriage certificates. I can see this in 2different parts of my family where the death certificate says that they died later than the remarriage. Thanks

Great video! So nice to see videos on UK genealogical research - they seem few and far between. Very familiar with the type of searches and consequent brick walls found in this video - but good to know it's not just me! Would love to see more videos on your genealogical research processes...

As if tracing the family tree wasn’t difficult enough without people changing their names 😢

It's so helpful to watch while you explain your thought process. The pace then becomes one that we can follow along with. This is an important difference with demonstrating a path already covered as we naturally want to cover it quicker so the viewer can miss the thought process which is in fact the vital skill we need . Thank you

Watching your video, I had a thought. In the 1861 Census, Mary Ann Durrant is missing, Thomas is listed with their two youngest children, but I haven't been able to find Mary Ann, their living in Bethnal Green, I found Mary Ann with the two boys on the 1871 Census in Southwark, Thomas died about 1867 (have to confirm death), but the thought I had was, maybe she is listed under her maiden name, Porter. I don't know why I didn't think of this before?

So if relatives of yours had printing machines, they might have used machines built by my Great Grandfather and Grandfather Sauvee in London. They also built conveyor belts. My Grandfather lost the firm in the twenties (I suppose), but my Uncle worked there into the seventies. I found two patents under his name. In 1968 my Uncle showed me the Sovex building in London. The name Sovex was later changed to Sorex, as the owners changed I assume. I then lost trace altogether. No pictures, nothing. But conveyor belt producers "turned up" in Kidderminster, which is funny, because my Grandmother's family is from that area. I hope, I'm not boring you 😊. I have a question: when I started looking for family during the first lockdown, sites like My Heritage gave out a lot more information than today without you having to subscribe. So I could actually start building a tree for my father's paternal and maternal family. What I learned was though, that you need the consent of living persons to add them to your online FT. My siblings and I and my parents are on someone else's family tree. Only my younger sister isn't, perhaps because she's born in Germany. I know for sure, that none of us ever consented to us being part of Ancestry or My Heritage. The question is: how could that happen? Sorry, I tend to over explain and doing that send one half of my listeners running and the other to sleep. 😅 And both don't understand what I'm on about anyway.

Thank you Rosilind - very interesting 🤓

I'm going to give it a go and see what turns up thanks for sharing your knowledge much appreciated 👍

There are Pickering’s living in Dalry, North Ayrshire. They had two Children who would be middle aged now and have children of their own.

Thank you for the knowledge you gave in this video I will give it a try as I'm trying to find my mother who used many names and fraudulent marriages so very difficult thanks again.

Thanks. You gave some useful tips here.

My husband’s ancestor changed his name from Smith to Cuthbertson. It was just after he got married and started a family. Fortunately, his wife had a distinctive name so was easier to trace. I suspect he signed up for the army and decided to get out when his first child was born.

Transcribing word by word or section by section is exactly what I do. I absolutely love using wills and other probate records as they can be very revealing. My message to anyone watching this is, dont be put off, and if faced with a long document just take it section by section, it will come.

I have a very strong suspicion my uncle changed his name shortly after coming g to Australia. I have documented all I could find on the 2 people and this shows a very strong reason to believe this. We have no idea why and his family are not interested, so I have to leave it at that

Thank you for your content. Looks like they were created for the census, taxation and the draft and for the creation of persons and humans through the devil's own advocates. Every avenue one can look into the surname comes up as being something that should not have been touched or a very unclean thing. Surnames are for the realm of the dead and not the living. We have a God given christian name and any addition through positive law denies us free grace.

Always press the older members, sometimes a word triggers a memory that they had forgotten or didn't think relevant. My Welsh ancestors became easier when i asked why there was someone in the family called/nicknamed "Grancha".. She wasn't sure... interestingly this is welsh slang for Grandfather...I told her this and she was somewhat taken back. Seems like the ancestor was there all the time but mistaken for a "friend" of the family.

Enumerators and transcribers can make it a real challenge in addition to those who just save records with variant spellings or name changes without explanations of their thought process. I've been guilty of not checking all the names in a household let alone those in neighbouring houses and now make a habit of noting the address for every event whether it be a birth, census, burial or probate along with scrolling to the adjacent images and looking for other family members living nearby. It's often the case where a child was staying with family & presumptions or misunderstandings by the enumerator can result in a different surname and relationship being recorded. One of the more common missing census issues centres around younger unmarried females who went to work in service and are noted in the wrong surname, sometimes they are really hard to solve but again siblings, step siblings and other family can be the key to finding them. Some just don't want to be found but there's nothing wrong with parking them for a while and looking again at a later date. New and/or additional information might come to light, I've tracked a couple down based on names of witnesses to marriages that took place around the time of a census.

I have been looking at naming systems in investigating a brick wall. My 2GGfather Richard was from Nottingham. He and his wife used the name James for two sons. My strongest suspect for Richard’s father is a man named James. Still poking along for proof on this! -Adele

Good.

One of my favourite sites is Findmypast, for all of its original documents. I had a couple you were married in 1834, before civil registration for Thomas Hooson and Mary Roberts, this is in Flintshire, Wales. I noticed that the witnesses were Francis Hooson and Elizabeth Roberts, so I did a search for Roberts parents who had both an Elizabeth and Mary and did the same for Thomas and Francis. I found the parents this way, but I have since found other corroborating documents, like census records who a couple of the Hooson children are on the Roberts farm. Richard Jones is on my 2x gr-grandfather's (Edward Hooson) 1843 GRO Birth registration, who is Richard Jones, later I found out he married Elizabeth Roberts, which I found the marriage registration. If you look under parish marriages in Findmypast, you can sometimes find GRO Marriage registrations.

Where was the mother from? Could the baptism be at the mother’s family parish?

Thank you. Watching you in your search, with you describing your thought process is extremely helpful. Most of my research is in the UK but I am not, so understanding where place's are is important. This brick wall is very much like mine for my paternal GG Grandfather william Meakins, b circa 1806, Worcester. No one yet has found a definitive baptism and parents for him, though someone found a strong possible. Lots of work yet to do there to rule him out or in.

Another useful video, I enjoy the way you share your thought processes and evaluate the various documents. I look forward to your videos. Thnk you

Oh, that is certainly very interesting. So, excuse my complete lack of experience as a foreign Biochemistry undergrad but for our research presentation in genetics we stumbled upon some recent developments in applications of the newly completely sequenced human chromosomes and this came up: so about the Y chromosome that pushes differentiation towards the male sex, it became obvious that the fact it is only passed from father to son( along with the mitochondrial DNA that is passed from mother to child exclusively), made it's variation within populations quite lower compared with the rest of the DNA on which the contribution from each parent is recombined constantly and randomly. So it was possible to make genetic maps for some studied regions where the distribution of a couple of variations of the entire chromosome Y is shown on the map, and one could see clusters of some far common heritage, which should be relatively stable throughout centuries given that there was not some massive movement or I don't know what else in the population. And because leaving these highly invariant regions of the DNA for population analysis is either expensive or easily misinterpretable, we saw some authors discussing whether they could use technices like yours with the common surnames and stuff to take a good guess whenever the data is not specific enough. Like, oh, we found the Y haplotype of that father and a a couple of suspects that share it, in some randomn detective case, it is not important, and in order not to spend a lot in sequencing the rest highly variable DNA, they could use your genealogy techniques to find out who are really closely related. But now, I want to turn this around at your side. I see you also had to search at the maps, do you think it would be helpful for you if you had a map of a genetic distribution, be it with low analysis, that would not have changed - a lot- from how it was in the 18nth century? Or if the evolutionary trees that we do all the time even for short periods of time could be combined with your search for common names among grandparents and nephews, to make an automated tree , be it highly dependable or not? Has it been discussed with geneticists ever on how you could join your research? How do you fell generally on opening up on such techniques? Oh dear, I never expected to get so caught up on something like this

I’m currently in the process of re-verifying all my ancestors so these videos are very helpful! :)

Hello I was born in Colombo to an English father name mr Smith in the year 1961 my English father left me when I was 2 year old boy he gave me an adoption to local Sri Lankan couple.now please help me to trace my biological father who left for UK in the early 60s.

Thanks I found this very informative, it gave another couple of avenues to explore. I love the style of video showing the actual searches.

The only other thing I’ve found that *sometimes* can help is looking through DNA matches. I’ve broken through three 18th century brick walls that way!

Really enjoyed this video, the example explains a methodology that I wish everyone used. It might stop so many fantastical family trees. I was wondering if you would like to do a video that goes further into lost records and that those get wrongly transcribed or just missed in the indexing. For some of the counties I’ve worked on, other online transcriptions such as FreeREG have been really useful to sort out mistakes and gaps in the major online platforms.

Your discussion was very informative and interesting; thank you so much. My research is in Cornwall and it would seem there are generations and generations of the same names, quite frustrating, but we keep at it because you just never know what's in the next record you find.

Thank you, this has been really helpful.

Very interesting

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Hi. found my fathers real father by DNA. Mine... My father has past away... I had unknown Dna matches 2nd and 3rd cousins on my fathers side.. I took Dna on both Ancestry and My heritage. I looked att all those cousinmatches and some of them had linked trees that i could check.. I had to go several steps up.. i had to find out who was my unknown grandfather/grandmothers parents first.. took one of the cousins tree and checked all their 2nd grandparents one by one.. Build all those persons trees until i had those matching 2nd cousins on place.. and then build more.. I knew that the father of my father was a trucker owner from a special city.. and i knew a surname.. and one late night it all fell on place.. and when i placed my dads fathers name in his tree it came a smart match result from another researcher.. with the same names.. It was my fathers!!,, he had before he died started a my heritage account.. filled in his name and a name on the trucker .. he had got the name from my grandmother but not told me other than the surname.. My father was dead 2020 and it was like a message from heaven from dad...🙂 Now i have found an halfbrother to him that i have had contact with and we will meet soon. he is 84 now. im 56 I can really recommend a dna test to you that searching for an unknown person.. Ancestry is sorting up a bit who is on parent 1 s side nad parent 2s side.. But My heritage have a tool that are clustering matching person together in groups in who they somehow are related to eachother.. have the same common ancesters.. But taking Dna test is very expensive.. but a great tool.. Now im looking for my grandmothers fathers relatives.. Of course she too was out of marriage child with a german.. I have name and place of birth for him and met him one time. but i want to find his relatives in germany wich is difficult.... Then a 3rd project came in front of me.. My stephfather have seen a picture of his father when he traveled in Usa Before my stephfather was born before Knut married My Stephfathers mom in Sweden.. .. we are Swedish.. The picture show Knut My Stephfathers father holding a small child beside a woman and a car... and my Stephfather are sure it must be a child of Knut... A half sister/ brother to my stephfather.. Knut Never mentioned a woman and child in Usa. They found the photo after his death... I dont know if they just was friends or a dating couple.. I figure Dna will show somehow... So ... We will se some day... I can recommend take Dna test. Dna dont lie like the records can .. and its Exciting to check out all matches.. But many Tester forget to link their trees to the test and then its not easy... Its important to link the tree and show the tree. / Thank you for a great website here on youtube. You share interesting things. 🙂Pia from Sweden.

In the case of adoptees it's probably worth mentioning that the adoptee should apply for their adoption file. Many don't simply because of mention of meetings with social workers but adoption files may have useful information that would otherwise be unknown. I applied for mine back in 2005 and since that point I've traced 12 half siblings and met four of them, spoken with another 3 on the phone and one has taken a DNA test to help try and make sense of mystery dna matches. I still have mysteries but not as many as I may have had if I had let the mention of a social worker put me off right at the start of my search.

Our ancestor came to Canada and changed his surname, he left England with his and his wife’s barmaid (They ran a few pubs over there) and started a whole new family in Canada 🇨🇦!

I have come to a block i cant get beyond my grandmother , i have her fathers name from wedding cert but have no other leads on ancestry or heritage sitez. Wnat do i do now she wS born on Anglesey

Is it possible to ‘prove’ a person’s birth before the 1851 census that gives their place of birth? It seems that people follow a line back assuming a family stayed in a parish whilst I feel this is not safe to assume. Am I missing records somewhere that would help?

Nice to see a few new subscribers to the channel. I'm fortunate to have ancestors in and around the Vale of Belvoir including some who lie in graves marked by what are called 'Belvoir Angel' headstones or simply 'BA' for sort. They are not very common, and were carved for a period of around 80 years with the earliest being around 1680. A survey in the 1970's found around 320 examples though more have come to light since including one relating to my family which is one of the rarest type, a 'double angel'. It had been unknown until I stumbled across a facebook group and posted some photographs which confirmed it as a BA. It's the stone of my 6x grt grandmother wo died in 1729, most of the inscription is in relief which together with the hardwearing stone they all share makes for headstones that will remain legible for centuries to come. An even earlier example in my tree dates to the very early 1700's.

My husband & I have been working on our trees for 15 yrs. I've been trying to tell him not to get too caught up on the spellings of people's names, explaining that they didn't always know how to write people's names correctly back then & even today's transcribed have been known to make mistakes. The names which confirmed this to me was my 4xGt Grandmothers first name on 5 different censuses, her name was Tearney on Baptism and Marriage records but I've seen Tianna, Tanuar, Tonnea, Tynisa & just a T. Another example is the surname Eades with variations of Ades, Edes & Addes. It would be great if I could show him your advice on this subject. 😊🌿

My great grandfather is one of several men of broadly the same age who share the same name and lived in a small area of Lincoln which made the census a bit of a nightmare. It's very easy to mix them up (many married ladies called Mary or Elizabeth just to add to the confusion). Eventually I combined baptisms, birth records (pre GRO website index), burial registers purchased from the family history society along with census and newspaper articles. Plotting addresses from census and burial registers was very revealing and scanning adjacent households in census returns and street directories unearthed little teasing insights showing how they often married 'the girl next door'. It also made sense of some odd relationships noted in the census where 'George' was recorded as a nephew rather than a son as expected (it's often a different 'Gorge but not immediately obvious from a census return alone). The end result was really surprising and really rewarding, around 15% of my tree was suddenly just the one surname and when I finally took the dna route I was able to make sense of all those trees that had mixed up the families based on census alone. I was also able to link family groups on findagrave and finally it all started to make sense. Several relatives who had for a long time not replied to messages finally contacted me and trees were adjusted where needed, certificates, photographs and memories we all kept to ourselves were shared. I've found it beneficial to use the same username and profile picture on various websites (either at the point of registration or editing the profile on a long standing account), others can then associate my profile/me as being linked to their family in some way even when the surname is different.

Just popped along out of curiosity, enjoyed your video and renewed my interest in tracing my ancestors. Looking forward to more and I subscribed, thankyou

Interesting. Allegedly I have a relative who came to the US prior to the revolution and changed his name to Jones to honor the person who (and I don't know if this is the correct term) sponsored his journey from the UK. I half suspect that it may have been a family story to attach a famous patriot (or rebel from your point of view) to the family tree!

I have a marriage cert from 1969 where the bride and groom are both noted as having changed their names by deed poll. It's actually my father's 2nd marriage cert. I can't be 100% sure if his birth certificate has the right father named on it (too long a story to recite here), but I do know his parents weren't married, at least to each other anyway. He actually changed his surname from the one he was registered in to his mother's maiden name though I possibly have the last laugh as through DNA I know his mother is not the daughter of the man named on her birth certificate. As for why I can't be certain, he had at least 10 children between 1945 and 1966 to a number of women though only one born in wedlock. He may have changed his name because his past was catching up, either a previous partner or a brush with the law but I'll probably never know and in some ways it's nice to have an unsolved mystery to add some interest and spark curiosity from people who just don't think family history is interesting, I certainly find it easier to find details of people in the 1800's than more recent times in many cases. My tree has kept me out out of mischief for many years and based on the antics of my father alone will do so for many years to come.

Oddly enough I've just commented on an American channel that there seems to be a lack of UK based genealogy channels on youtube and youtube must have been spying as up pops one of your uploads in my recommendations. I've been researching my birth family for around 20 years and had quite a bit of success but after taking a dna test last year found the odd certificate is more fiction than fact when it comes to the father's name. It's probably fair to say some of my ancestors thought the register office was actually the fiction factory. My paternal grandmother was registered as the child of a married couple in 1890, they appear in the 1891 census as a family at the same address as that on the birth certificate, the shared matches show hubby wasn't the father. Fortunately the real father moved to the Isle of Wight, married and some of his descendants (now spread across the UK and beyond), have tested, crucially they are just about the ideal results needed. I just wish the same were true for a big mystery on my maternal side including two groups of matches (each group contains dozens of results), matches range from sub 20cM right up to 199cM but the 'magic match' that makes everything clear either isn't there or I can't see it. All I know for sure is that I have an NPE with either my mother (born in 1924) or grandfather (born in the 1880's), it may even be an NPE for both of them but for now the matches don't tell the story.

would it be possible to. get photos from the British Air ministry 1945 🎉

I have a will from about early 19th C I would like read.

It’s a good time to get into genealogy!! Haha