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I'm not sure if the plop sound will go away. My long-term experience with the Magna is only those with leather uppers, not synthetic ones like on your Lite WR's. None of those leather pairs ever made a persistent or loud plopping sound when I was wearing them in, and once worn-in, they're all silent. When I tried (and ultimately returned) those Magna Trails with the synthetic upper, the plopping sound was obvious and didn't noticeably diminish after a couple kilometers of walking. You could always walk/hike around with them to really test them out, and if you're still not satisfied, then you can take advantage of Vivobarefoot's return policy (assuming it applies to your purchase). Their return policy is especially made for that - to guarantee satisfaction after real-world use.

Okay. Thank you so much for the long answer!@@larsmaxfield

Great to hear that your pair of FGs are holding up. The two 2021 pairs I have are also holding up and are my go-to travel shoes. My intent with this video was not to imply no one should buy them - I also don't state that in the video - but instead to share my concern that a pair with readily visible defects seemingly passed through Vivobarefoot's quality control. No manufacturing process is perfect, but I think it's fair to expect a higher level of quality when paying a relatively higher price for goods.

It should only be asking for your personal email. My understanding is that Vivobarefoot then sends you the code via that email, and then you need to use that email when ordering with the code. I checked the link and it looks like that is indeed still the case. If it asks for *my* email, then I can't help you there.

@@larsmaxfield This may be a difference between ordering from US and Europe. Although it has emailed me a code, when I want to check out and use the code, it asks me about the name and email address of the person who has referred me and not that code! No problem. I will try to contact their customer service.

@@honeyhendesi9263 Ah, that's new for me. Vivobarefoot likely changed their system for the way codes are used. You can try contacting them, but I'm not certain how far you'll get.

I double-checked the link in the description and it still appears to work on my end. The terms limit only once per referred customer, so that might be the issue!

Because the big shoe companies haven't caught on yet; when they finally do, they'll wipe out these overpriced shoe makers

The leather does stretch, but I can't confidently say how much. My feeling is that if it's still too snug even when the laces are completely loose, then the shoe won't stretch to a satisfactory point. I'm taking this from my own experience with initially having a size 47 and then moving up to 48. If the 100-day unconditional return policy applies to your purchase (and if you still have enough time), then I'd say just try putting some nice mileage on the smaller pair and see what happens in terms of stretch.

@@larsmaxfieldI’m the same as you, in between a 47 & 48. Did you find that you needed a larger size after adapting to barefoot style footwear?

@@gregaustin8114 Yes. I went somewhere between a half- and whole-size up in EU shoe size. That also includes feeling much more comfortable with wider toe-boxes - I really can't stand traditional dress shoes for more than an evening nowadays.

My first thought is the tightness of the laces. For me, I can walk with the Magna FG models with pretty loose laces and still feel relatively secure in the shoes. You probably already tried this though; but if not, I do suggest loosening up the laces and try again. Another thought is that the elasticity of the laces (or rather inelasticity) means there's no stretch of the shoe across the top of your foot. I actually use a different set of laces (Nathan Run Laces) on my Magna FG for easier loosening and tightening, and there's the added advantage of them being quite elastic compared to the original laces, which means my upper feet indeed have more flexibility and room. Other than that, I can't think of anything else besides returning them. Vivobarefoot has that 100 day return policy which allows you to really wear the shoes and see if they're right (or wrong) for you.

@@larsmaxfield Hi Lars thanks for your reaction. This evening I walked with very loose laces. I could put 3 fingers beneath them. But the pain is a mechanical problem. I can feel a seam in the shoe under the last lace strain. It feels like a wedge of iron which hurt a lot. Even if I don't walk but only bend my foot. I wonder if this is a new thing in the Acorn model. I am going back to the shop.

Let us know what you learn

@@DanielMaidment I am walking for 2 weeks now. I have only the ridge pain in the right shoe/foot. But slowly by walking and wearing the shoe the stifness is going away. I think because the leather is warmed up by my feet. But it is a long process.

@@jeroenvanderhorst1513 I have the primus lites. Early on they would fold over the knuckle of my big toe, due to the relative firmness of the upper and the softness of the sole. I was super worried, but the upper softened within a couple of weeks and I haven't had the same problem since. Maybe you were experiencing something similar?

You`d think they would inspect before sending to a known youtuber. I ordered the standard obsidian with gum soles, and they arrived in perfect condition. I was pleased with the improvement of a tighter wool upper and shorter laces.

Yeah I noticed it too, it seems something is going on with their newer models, it feel like a hit or miss at times, I remember the older models being far more consistent.

@@YTesting agree. I’ve returned a pair due to quality issues. As you say very hit and miss at the moment. Interestingly they’re on a quest to use as little material as possible to reduce their impact on the environment. Great in theory but my concern is what happens when you take that to the extreme? You could end up with a very flimsy shoe that barely stays together. There’s a reason their Tracker boots are their best seller. It’s still a boot that requires a lot of material/ manufacturing.

@@harrisonmudge Exactly, you are spot on. I must acknowledge that vivo has grown an immense amount the last few years, and whether the quality issues are because of their lack of consistent QA due to the growth or the investment into using less material, I cannot answer, but a trend can be seen, even here on youtube, related to glueing issues, sole issues, basic color discoloring, storage and shipping issues. I just hope they will figure it out.

@@harrisonmudge Maybe they just grew too fast and didn't manage to scale their business accordingly.

Hi, Did you get them for your trip? My order is on the way. I'm getting them for the Pacific Northwest weather where I live - wet and cool most of the time. And considering to take them to northern Vietnam trip in late fall and yes for walking/trekking in countryside and mountains. It's on sale for women's style rn. 🙃

@@MộtMình_VẫnVui hi, no I didn't! I still haven't found a shoe to take with me 😔 I want to try the Vivos but I'm worried about the return process if they don't fit. If they're on sale though I may have to give it a try! Please let me know how you like them when they arrive 😊

@@elizabethw.454 It’s hard to find shoes that do -it-all and comfortable for individual feet. I want to pack light for my trips so allowing Max 1 pair of feet and 1 pair in luggage. I’ll share with you about the shoes. Hopefully they arrive asap. Vivo offers 100 days trial so you could order and test them. but their shipping is slow depending on where you live.

@@MộtMình_VẫnVui I think I will end up bringing 2/3 pairs of shoes. One pair are dressy loafers that lay flat and weigh nothing. I think leather will be best for where I'm going but I won't ever use thick leather where I live in the south. It's too hot all year round. If I bring canvas/mesh I will definitely need two pairs. Good to know about Vivos return policy! I hope yours work well and fit perfectly 😊

Not a runner myself but I've heard lots of good things about Xero!

Saddle soap. I know the brand otterwax sells some.

I'm not sure in this case since you're a "low 7"; I'm a "high 47" (meaning 47.5-48.0), and 47 shoes from Vivobarefoot have always been just bit too snug. I can only recommend trying both 7 and 8 in your case as a 7 may indeed be just right!