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This isn't a standard AR rifle. It's a one of a kind unique patented design. 1.5 moa is good for a budget AR10. It's good for most non budget battle rifles that aren't a 9lb spr.. Unfortunately, when you go up to the big boy calibers, $1500 it's budget. The rogue is the cheap version of the revolution. You should have done a little more research, saved a little longer, and got yourself a revolution for about 2500 Otherwise, you're looking at a scar for 3900 but it's 1lb heavier. Same with the Daniel defense. A good 308 gun is $2500-4500, then you need $1500-3000 glass on it. The point of the pof is it's extremely light weight for a 308 rifle. The point of the rogue is it's a budget revolution. Pick your battles

POF put everything they had into the Revolution. Anything other than that is a toss of the dice.

That sucks that you didnt like the Rogue. POF makes great tools. I think some of it may be that the rifle was not designed to be a precision rifle. POF should definitely stop putting that MOA guarantee on that sticker. Its a super lightweight battle rifle. I know it sucks, but the Ruger SFAR has similar problems. Its tough getting a .308 to run in a AR type rifle....also i do think the Dictator gas block should come standard on the Rogue......bad on you POF. I own the Renegade plus 10.5 inch .300 BO, and i can say its pretty amazing. With the gas block, I can run anything from 110gr Vmax to 220gr Subs with/without a can. The thing just runs

Because POF piece of junk

I had the same experience with their customer service when my piston driven revolution was completely jacked up and I mean bad they made it sound like it was something I did the rifle had less than 10 rounds down range never again will I be doing business with them after taxes ffl and shipping I was into that pile for over 3K and they made me pay to return it come to me folks you give me 3 thousand dollars I’ll kick you in the nuts and we’ll call it even

6 pound 308 and we're worried about groups? I worry about groups on heavy rifles. Light rifles are quick. Quick rifles are for short range. Short range rifles don't need to be accurate......you follow? This is a hammer, I put an EOTECH on mine. MOM at 100y easy. Everything closer is in deep crap. You know some guns actually have limitations? I want a gun as easy to conceal as an LCP, hold as many rounds as my Czech mate, be as powerful as a 500 S&W and recoil like a 22. It'll be on the shelf next to the 5.9# AR-10 that shoots 1/2" groups.

I too have had some marginal experiences with POF customer service. I feel strongly that things have moved in the wrong direction since Frank passed. As far as the Rogue, you simply bought the wrong gun. The revolution, Renegade, P308, and P415 are the cream and would have given the performance you were looking for. It's disappointing that they have introduced a lower tier of rifles of lower quality and missing 90% of the features that make POF rifles stand out above the rest, but it is a tall order to expect guys/gals to shell $2800 for a top shelf blaster. They tried to bring a more cost effective rifle to market and missed the mark, and sadly their reputation is already suffering. I would not buy a rogue or a minute man series POF rifle, but I have an old Gen 4 renegade+ with the 18" stainless barrel and have a legit 12K down the pipe. No failures of any kind and it still slings a one minute group with hand loaded 77SMK.

It is cycling way to fast put an A2 stock buffer and spring on it that will fix the problems

POF can do better. Thanks for an honest video.

Mines been a total POS plain and simple customer service sub par mine had failure to extract issue I should of bought a LMT or DD my mistake

thank you, I have had the same problems with the gun, I am planning on selling it, I will stick to my tried and true Socom 16 guess I am old school.

From the POF to the Ruger SFAR, the amount of money that you have paid, the AR-308W should be up and running very well. I have built all my AR308W and all run very well.

great info, thanks

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Once the owners die or sell. Most companies go to Krap!

Sorry you had a bad experience. I too swapped the non-adjustable gas block it came with for the dictator. But I did the work myself. It really was pretty easy to do the swap and was more or less just like any other gas block change I have done. However my reasoning was that I needed the adjustable gas block so that it would reliably work with a suppressor. Honestly it didn't work out too great, and even with the adjustable gas block, it really doesn't cycle properly with my suppressor. But that wasn't the reason I bought the rifle in the first place so I certainly can't blame the rifle. I wanted something powerful but also lightweight. In that regard, it is a really good rifle.

I and tons of people I know have experienced the same thing. Here is a video with my issues: ruclips.net/video/LV7bg5NJcgY/видео.html

I had terrible luck with my revolution 308. Shot absolutely terrible and constant brass getting stuck in chamber. Their customer rep was smug and said it would be first one of their guns sent back for accuracy that was actually the rifles fault. Lol there are alot of forums where guys have same issue. As far as brass sticking there is a break in involving you to finish their job by cleaning and polishing the chamber with drill and rod over and over til problem gets better. That e2 square thing is a gimmick.

Thanks for the heads up on this!! I was looking for a well built AR pattern rifle in .308 and from what I can tell clearly this ain’t it. You buy rifles like I do and I work hard for my money. I pay for quality and don’t have an issue with that. Clearly this is the one for me!!! Thanks again. You’ve have gained a new subscriber.

Dont understand the accuracy complaints i get 2.5 inch groups at 400 yards with my 12.5 inch pof revolution .308.

Thanks,I don't want the sfar either,I think a 6.2 grendal would be the mark!!

WTS pof pos rouge. WT for ammo

Don’t you understand by requesting something the gun wasn’t originally sent for you screw up the whole process of assembly? I know it seems like you think it would be easier but if every customer did that they would never get anything done.. when the gun arrives it needs to have everything that’s going to be done to it at that time stated if not it will screw up the whole process and nothing will get done.. it’s just the way it is customer service

What gun would you recommend?

Mine absolutely sucks

Only issue I have with mine is accuracy sucks

I had a POF in 308 very Similar Susie’s took it to my gun smith still couldn’t get it to run right ended selling it to a gun shop. I’ll never purchase another POF rifle

I'd say that group is ok for a $1500 gun. If it was a $2500+ gun with that group, I'd be pissed.

Rugar sfar is a hunk of shit by the way. Brand is known fro cheap quality shit. And mutiple reviews of issues.

When did you purchase this rifle I’m just wondering if later models after performance is any better I bought one haven’t been able to shoot it yet

Matt. Thanks for your input. I have some experience with this piece of equipment. I can say that I use heavier grain weights and average about 1.25 moa with this one. I understand your beef with the lack of usability with the bad lever. However, there are some pretty awesome design aspects for this lefty. I must say that I am a fan of oof I did have a knucklehead buddy of mine run some Russian steel ammo through it while I was stepped away from the table, and when I got back he was about to stick his pocket knife into the action to free it up. I'm glad I caught him before he did that. But I wasn't fast enough to stop him before he ran that trash ammo through my rifle. Shame on you d. Run that crap through your own rifle. So my advice would be to use quality ammo like the smk 175 gold medal match. I've hit the .75 mark with them a few times.

Yea their customer service is inconsistent. I posted something on this also. And it's true, 168 grain or higher. But once you use the ammo it requires no issues. I even bought another CMR revolution gas piston version.

It's a 5.9 lb 308 with a 16 inch barrel. With very little recoil. It's not a match rifle. I have had ones that were. They were more like 15+ lbs or more depending on the scope etc. With 20 inch barrels. The POF Rogue with handloading and shooting off sandbags. Will shoot moa groups. But that's not what it's made for. It's one of the best all around rifles that I have ever used. I live in big game country. Deer, bear, elk, moose etc. Mountains, valleys and open hilly terrain. So lots of walking up and down mountains and hills. You don't even notice that you are carrying it. It's good for brush and out to 3-400 yards. The Canadian Rangers use 308 to take down everything including grizzly. So if you want a one rifle to do it all for hunting (and possibly self-defense/military) the POF Rogue is perfect. Just change what you don't like (like grind the safety down). If you are hunting mountain goats antelope or long range match shooting. Well you'll need a longer, heavier and much more expensive rifle (bolt action would probably be better). So for anyone who is looking for a great all around rifle it's perfect. It would make Jeff Coopers day! A 5.9 lb 308 scout rifle!

what part of montana are you in. i am in the nw part. i own several and i've had good experience with pof customer service

I picked up a rogue about 10 months ago. In my opinion this rifle was worth every dollar. I changed out the stock and grip to better fit me. And a swampfox arrowhead 1x10 scope. It has been sub moa with 168 and 175 grain hornady ammo. Recoil is nice, easy to carry for deer hunting. Sorry yours isnt working out for you.

For a sub-6 lb rifle that has decent accuracy, they have a lot of wiggle room with me regarding some of the design issues you pointed out. I swapped out the pistol grip with a BCM grip, put a giessele SSA trigger in there, added the dictator, replaced the butt stock, and added a Lantac brake and suppressor adapter to mine. After a couple hiccups, I’m pretty happy with mine. Is it the most accurate rifle? Nope. Do I need it to be? Nope. Is it the lightest .308 in its class? Yep. And that’s precisely why I bought it. Customer service has been great with my questions and issues I’ve had, and I really love the outside the box thinking they put into this rifle. Love it.

I like my LWRC Six8

Im out. Thanks for the review

My older POF .308 has been a pain in my ass from day 1.

Seriously... 1966 Beyond Crap ammo... ?? !!! Yeah, That's what your feeding it... Seriously ! (( Just because it has a NATO Stamp on it )) Means NOTHING. Once, W/ a Lithgow ARSENAL build, I < Like an Idiot> fed it Venezuelan NATO Ammo. 100% Failure to feed. Yet, German. "MEN" Ran perfect. In all my .308 Rifles. Just saying. In troubleshooting, Start W/the Simple first.

Had my eye on the POF Rogue for a couple of years and then the Ruger SFAR showed up at the local ranch and home supply store. Manager let me put it on hold on the Wednesday before the Black Friday Sale. Sweet!

I bought one, but not yet had a chance to shoot it. I notice it has a lot of play between upper and lower when I twist the grip left or right. I read that it does best with heavier grain bullets, like 175g. Well, I'll see. It was sort of an impulse buy. I upgraded the furniture and put a side-charging handle on it, and it feels great and has an excellent trigger, but I just hope it shoots great. I own an HK91 and a Tavor 7, but a lightweight .308 sounded like a good idea. The SFAR seems interesting, though heavier.

I have an SFAR, I can't type my entire opinion on it right here in the comments, there are some things I think require changing to make it "correct" but early testing has showed great accuracy and potential. You may want to try one out, and they can be had under 1k.

Was semi interested in this rifle, thanks for the heads up I won’t be buying one.

I have the Revolution DI and absolutely love it. Zero problems. 2000 rounds so far.

Congrats POF, I won't be buying one based on this video. I'll be purchasing the Ruger SFAR. I had great customer service with Ruger, CZ, Steyr and Sig. Remington was the worst I ever had to deal with, I sent back a NIB rusty gun that they claimed to do work on and they never touched it. (The Chysler of gun companies)

Looks like the Ruger SFAR is the .308 to buy. I own a POF 415 and love it, but there is just no excuse for bad customer service and lousy accuracy at this price point. Ruger is more accurate for less $$.

The rogue has been a total crapshoot and haven’t heard anything good about it. Sounds like you definitely had a bad experience for sure, but the complaints of the barrel twist rate and proprietary parts didn’t exactly sneak up on you. Research is key for sure.

I have the same gun and I am equally disappointed. I had POF install the same gas block. The gun seems to chew up the brass pretty bad. I swapped out the buffer to a spikes T2 heavier buffer and that along with the gas block helped with the FTE problem. I bought the gun to hunt with and usually shoot 150 gr variety of hunting ammo and the accuracy is not very good. It will shoot that about 2 moa. I'm no marksman, but I have been shooting/hunting my whole life, so I can shoot moa. This is the most expensive firearm I own and it is the most inaccurate. I tried talking to POF about it and possibly returning it to them for work. That was a very frustrating experience, they did not want to help. I can honestly say I will never purchase another POF product. I might purchase the Ruger SFAR and sell this one.

You keep saying other options. Cool, what factory built 308 semi auto, that guarantees 1 moa for $1500, options are you talking about? I am honestly curious.