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Putting the boot in on the stop gap idea of hybrid vehicles. They just aren’t the future for everyone. Hyper cars, possibly shipping? Even so EV technology and renewable technologies are in a steep upward trajectory of development, so in less than a decade the hybrid vehicle solution will be a blip on the history of cleaner vehicles. Thanks for another great video!

So , I get it , you are an absolutist, the solution has to be entirely zero emission. Also you have a 2050 target date fixed in your world view. The problem is the world is in no position to achieve anything like those challenges. However there are going to be produced between now and 2050 a ballpark number of batteries. I think the world would benefit most from the maximum carbon emission reduction from those limited number of batteries. So the first use should be in the electrical grid to store and distribute power from renewables so we don't spend millions of taxpayer money paying for curtailment fees. Also the percentage of renewables in the grid can rise as we store more energy for later use. So hybrids give the battery allocation, carbon reduction, if batteries are limited. Finally hybrids can be subsidy free as the addition cost is trivial compared to a non-hybrid and there is no charger network required for remote locations.

I went from Diesel to PHEV, then finally to EV. After 7 years between these types, I went back to PHEV as this suits my commute and personal circumstances best. Everyone should experience these differences and make their own choice. Our 2 car household comprises of a 2019 Toyota Prius PHEV and a 2014 Nissan Leaf 24kwh

The only hybrids that make any sense are an EV with a decent battery, plus a gas generator, for those that really need it. Non plug in, make no sense at all, they perform no better than a diesel.

I've just made the leap to an electric car (kona 64kwh). Feeling fairly nervous given the culture war being fought around them, and number of people telling me it's a terrible idea. I hope I've made the right choice. I don't really understand why so many people reserve so much vitriol for them.

Even if you could generate "clean" fuels, they're a terrible idea. Combustion creates pollution. And you lose a huge benefit of EVs - simplicity. Fewer components means fewer repairs and less maintenance. This is why automakers would love to sell more hybrids. My fist gasoline vehicle (back in the 80s) had barely 200 miles of range and i lived in a rural area.So anyone claiming they can't get by with less than 500 miles is full of shit.

USA - Automakers are pushing plug-in hybrids because they put in 1/5 of the battery of an b e v overprice them and consumers get the rebates. The Prius Prime is $34k, it's cute and has big wheels and expensive tires and a pathetic 44 MI EV range at an EV price. Don't worry your pretty little head about plugging in or getting a charger, that's only for smart people.

All really good points, but people who watch videos like Harry's just want an emotional rant that justifies their fear of change. They don't want facts, just a somewhat-plausible excuse they can use to continue rejecting reality.

It's strange th.at when a solar farm is proposed in England. The nimby shout. It's food growing land.. But, no one mentions the 8,000 hectares growing biofuel. If we had and we don't had 1500 hectares of solar panels. We would free up 6500 hectares for food

Not sure how things are in the UK, but young people where I live have far more interest in bikes and e-bikes. While the middle-aged and older rage against bike lanes etc, a very large % of all the young people I know use bikes a lot. It isn't a solution in itself, but shows the lie that we need to replace all existing cars with EVs.

With no oil how much crops would be grown? With no oil left in the ground only growing fuel would stop us going hungry.

I would add that vastly increasing the amount of crops grown for biofuels would have serious impacts on food availability and cost. Three quarters of a billion people are currently hungry, to grow even more crops simply to burn would be criminal.

Oh, yes, it makes *so* much sense to buy a hybrid rather than an EV. You get the joy of a car with four times the complication (ten times the moving parts including an engine, a fuel system, a cooling system, lots of belts and hoses, a transmission, a differential, and complicated electronics blending your battery and electric motor with the gasoline powertrain), and at a minimum four times the maintenance expense. All so you can sleep at night knowing that you can add more polluting gasoline to the car at any corner gasoline station instead of the hassle of spending 15 seconds to plug it in inside your garage. Range? Most EVs will go further on a charge than my mainline Honda CR-V will go on a tank of gas. YMMV - 95% of my driving is on congested cobblestone roads within five miles of my house, a pattern not conducive to good fuel economy. In all fairness, an EV with only 50 miles of range would be adequate to serve my needs. _"Yeah, but when you have to replace the battery, it'll cost you tens of thousands of dollars."_ Tesla, for example, warranties their batteries for 10 years and 120,000 miles. That doesn't mean the battery has failed utterly. It means that it has less than 70% of its original range on one charge. In my circumstances, even 20% remaining range would be sufficient for my needs, and there are more and more places that can repair a degraded battery for a fraction of the cost of a new one. In any case, my next birth date will have an eight at the begging of it, I probably won't still be driving by the time I can wear out a battery. My next car, planned for less than a year from now will be a used EV with FSD. I can't wait.

Even if we did have a perfect way to make billions of tons of liquid hydrocarbons from thin air for free, it would still be better to put those hydrocarbons underground (creating negative emissions) and drive EVs. That would be a far more efficient use of energy and it would reduce air pollution.

Good presentation. Mandate electric or plug-in hybrid vehicles with say 150km city electric range minimum. Mandate an increasing % requirement mix of a carbon neutral part of liquid fuels. 2050 100% Don't underestimate plants ability to capture CO2. Also, forests and grasslands burn. Not just as bio-fuels.

Unfortunately, pure EV sucks for apartment dwellers who don't have a garage they can plug-in to trickle charge while they sleep. Every vehicle should be a minimum of HV to get the benefits of regenerative breaking and also the brakes last 200k miles. The hybrid motor replaces two cylinders in the gas engine, which also helps the engine burn less gas and weigh less. I love having a PHEV because it can trickle charge overnight and I use gas only for long trips

Technically, the only solution is better public transportation. As I currently live in an apartment with no way to charge any electric vehicles and no charging stations within 150km, I have no option but to own an ICE car. As I only use my car for rare trips to specialty stores and long work related trips, 700 to 900km, an EV is not economically viable for me. In summary, EV's have a place in this world, but they are not for possible everyone. Hybrids also have a niche use, but with neighborhoods, shopping districts, and commercial districts all becoming further apart, I believe that cars are not the main problem and that there are more deep rooted problems that should be fixed first. Let's just ignore the fact that many forms of transportation could easily be made fully electric, such as cargo rail in north america, which exclusively uses diesel with no overhead power lines. I don't have the solution to the world's problems, but I personally don't think EV's should be the first priority to fix the world's problems with regards to fuel.

Funny how few people lambast the use of cobalt, for instance, in phones, laptops, battery power tools, oil refining for fuels etc. Or the amount of copper used in plumbing, central heating, the miles of wiring (home and vehicles etc)...and nickel used in wiring, stainless steel and other non-corrosive materials (propellor shafts, desalination plants etc), coins, nails, gas turbines, rocket engines etc etc. Glencore state that their cobalt extraction is a byproduct of nickel mining in the DRC. And yes, it's all recyclable. The hypocrisy knows no bounds. ;)

Very dry and entertaining video. And accurate.

I have driven EV's for 10 years and love them. My other half recently had her car written off an was given a top of the range Mercedes GLC 200 8 speed automatic hybrid thingyboby. Although the car was stunning and impeccable quality the drive train was terrible. It makes you realise that a fairly standard EV has a better drive train than a £50-60k Mercedes that tries to be both ICE and Electric. I hated it and was glad to get back in an EV. This is a genuine opinion and I honestly don't understand why anyone would ever consider a hybrid after driving an EV.

Hybrids are ok for some people's needs, but once they are out of warranty they are potentially a nightmare to fix!

So called bio fuels are terrible at wearing engines out very early...

If it has… Low fuel light. Check engine light. Oil life indicator. Deal breaker, don’t want it. I am so over that stuff.

I had the Hybrid/BEV conversation with myself over 10 years ago, Should I buy a Hybrid such as the Prius, or a Range extended BMWi3 or a full BEV . I looked at my daily usage of cars in the previous year, the number of long journeys, the frequency of use and the availability of charging. WIth home charging available , a fairly set routine of journeys under 100 miles and a helpful calculator on costs, I went full BEV. Now 10 years and 150k miles later I know I made the right decision. Ignoring the environmental aspects, the cost saving have been large, large enough to offset the 'depreciation' that all cars undergo. My current car carries me to where I want to be, for less than 2 pence a mile.

Can I interest you in a 2012 Chevy Volt?

Hybrid come in two flavours. Dual motors, or motor generator pairs. Dual motors are silly.

Hybrid…three systems to go wrong. EV ICE stuff that joins them

so is electric the best then?

Great video, sadly the moment you mention Net Zero, E fuels and Bio fuels most will switch off. PHEVs may be a solution. I friend of mine has a PHEV and is still on the first 45 litre tank of fuel after a year of ownership, what harm could that do? When I asked him "would you own a BEV" he said no way despite almost all of his miles in the last 12 months being electric, go figure.

Good analysis. We should stop banging on about CO2 as the primary benefit of EVs - it should be air quality as the primary benefit as it can be tested and proved by just sniffing the air in a High Street. Using CO2 as the reason is too difficult for Joe Bloggs to get his/her head around as its invisible and therefore undetectable to them (and too many conspiracy theories). This may then help to remove some hype around Hybrids, e-fuels etc

Hybrids are cleaner than ICE cars but they still burn fuel, which is what we have to stop doing. I'm not totally against hybrids as they can be a stepping stone to going fully electric. Subscribed!

If anyone is advocating a non-plug-in hybrid, they might as well be advocating that we build oil-fired power stations, because that's what they're driving.

Even if you can get past the complexity, inefficiency and inconvenience of a hybrid, there's the ridiculous fire rate. For every BEV fire, there's 20 ICE fires and a staggering 250 Hybrid fires!!!

My son has a plug in hybrid and has to charge every night just to get 27miles then still needs to fuel his car at a garage, then they are the cost of servicing and driving around with a heavy set of batteries and electric motor when his 27 miles is used up. So I my opinion on hybrids is it a money making scenario for the motor company that has not embraced full EV cars.

Hybrids offer the worst of both worlds. All the complexities and inefficiency of internal combustion and the short range of small batteries.

Bevangelist video for eco zealots. Haven’t you noticed that BEV’s are being rejected as the solution…?

I see Hybrids as a stop-gap by legacy car makers to make huge profits with FUD about EVs while making them (Hybrids) more costly to service/repair due to their complexity.

You are the champion of low key, irrefutable logic. Thanks for posting!

Hybrids are terrible. Worst of both worlds. Pure EV is the way to go.

The idiocracy and scepticism comes from the terminology. Zero emissions is not an absolute truth.

I drove my friends kia e niro last weekend and I agree, they are much better to drive and especially up or down hills

I bought a 2009 Smart for my wife. We still own the car. It is great for driving in urban Washington D.C. Our Smart Car still looks like new and I often get questions about how many miles per gallon We get. Gas mileage isn't great, but the car is fun to drive.

Having driven a Zoe for 4 years find it annoying that drives of ice cars take so long to get started at traffic lights. In a EV I can be 30 or 40 metres up the road before the ice car behind me has managed to release their clutch and start moving. If I am behind a couple of ice cars I keep wondering if they have broken down because they take so long to start moving.

The mandate is a bit of a hammer. EVs are already cheaper to build than ICE. EV costs are only going in one direction which is down, so just leave it to the market to decide. Also build out public charging at a sensible price. By sensible no more than 2x home electric price.

Preregistrations cause the spikes I would suggest - due to dealers reaching their financial year ends or to artificially hit government annual targets. EVs may be selling, but many manufacturers are losing thousands of pounds on every one they sell - this is not sustainable. Also, leasing/finance companies are now seeing vehicles reaching the end of contract with a residual value far below what was predicted - no doubt insolvencies will follow and lease rates will go through the roof. BTW I notice you change the scale when you switch from the ICE graph to the EV chart to make the EV growth look bigger - oldest trick in the book.

Jist hybrids is a total waste of time and doing that just delays the termination of the ICE!

Very thoughtful and inciteful once again.

that EV offset trading should be stopped asap.

I suspect the dealers are forced to buy/register the cars as demonstrators to meet the manufacturers targets.