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This is a lesson that in MTG you never have to give another turn to your opponent when you have to do the alpha strike...xD

Please post more old school games.

Seems to me that both players missed the double block of Black Knight + Order of the Ebon Hand on the Mishra's Factory to get around Urborg's ability.

Have you considered digitizing the deck lists you show at the start on Moxfield and putting them in the video description? I'd love to be able to see the decks, mess with cards, and export as needed to work with the spice.

Premodern +oldschool is sick Mostly premodern tho ;) that lionboltdip deck gg

Fun fact.. there was a user on MTGSalvation who was pretty famous named Rancored_Elf

Wow awesome game. Please keep the old school games coming Cheers

22:32 discarding purge to hand size does nothing, but discarding to balance...

0:45 those chain lightnings have seen some things 😂

Awesome content. Nice to see some Old School from out West. Keep it up

Why no sinkhole? Is it banned?

Pre-Modern is literally the best format imho. Once you go past it gets stupid with turn 2 wins being constant in modern, keep going to pioneer now its turn 3 wins, standard is even consistently winning before turn 4 resolves.

GG just found the channel, love me some premodern, sub!!!

The thumbnail pic was a lie 😂

are these games usually played at the same location? there's always great music in the background

What about just banning the shrimp, or maybe restricting some cards instead of banning hmmm...

G3 Quinn should have smothered on the upkeep to live another turn

If they want to weaken StifleNought without totally erasing the deck, they could ban Vision Charm. Make it less consistent in getting the early Nought.

I think a real conversation about the 3 different versions of Stiflenought needs to happen. Blue, of all colors, doesn't need a second turn 12/12 with free counter backup. I know it sucks and it's only good in blue. But the Naughty Noughts gotta go! Love the content thank you soooo much!

UR seems like an interesting version for Stiflenought. Even when I think the mono blue one is the best. But those bolts and flings seem interesting

Think towards the end of G2, dreadnought shouldve cycled the vision charm via his Web to dig for final point of damage, holding for dreadnought seems greedy.

Congrats on one year! Appreciate all the glorious premodern matches.

Siiick build

I like this UR build. The burn route gives reach.

Lol stasis is some bullshit. We all but banned that card in store when I was kid playing during this era.

Machine head deck list should make some changes

surprised the mind stone never got cracked game one

Sorry Dane, nice win, now fix your art xD

Ohhhh happy day 🎉

Deck lists?

I love your videos so much, wish you would upload daily! But it seems like you ramping up the production anyway. Last video was 3 days ago

I love slivers! I went 6-0 with it in a monthly a year and a half ago. It’s super good because you have access to all of the best cards from each colour. My list was very different to his but I have a video about it and some gameplay videos on my channel if you’re interested

Really love watching these games! Here in my area premodern is not a popular format😢

I am usually a person that prefers to use the same art for each copy of the card (especially basic lands) but there is 1 exception - Tron lands. I have the entire Tron package where each land has a different art, so 12 different arts. I don't know why, but I find it funny

Re Mishra’s Factory / Standstill - yeah it’s a layers / timestamp thing. Tldr is that the Factory activation is ‘newer’ than Humility’s effect, so it overwrites what Humility would otherwise do to a pre-existing creature.

14:00 you can counter both the Cycling and the Soldier-trigger of Decree of justice, just not with a traditional counterspell

really cool decks!

3:20 it has been oracle-updated to giving haste

At the beginning of game one, why Dark Ritual to hard cast unmask when you can just exile it to play it for free and save 2 mana? Also, why didn't he play out the wall of roots when he needed the blocker?

I’ve been watching your premodern coverage for awhile and love the videos. My buddy and I hope to make it down to Portland one of these months and throw our hats in the ring. In the meantime I’ll live vicariously through these players. Keep it up :)

Tony should have won game 2. Solitary Confinement gives him shroud, and Oath is a targeted effect.

Imp the biggest flaw of this format is the land destruction. Just look at this match. G2 and G3 were complete non-games because of mana denial. Super feels bad.

Taking damage every time the CoB is tapped by Port is BRUTAL

Watching these games, I miss Oath triggers an embarrassing number of times. It's a real testament to the deck that I can play a 2 mana do-nothing and still win.

Great video and commentary as always. It’s always nice to see aluren. I really need to get around to uploading my gameplay again.

TK here - The deck looked okay game one but I think 2 and 3 were a product of new deck and an un optimized side board, not to mention playing against Alec’s proven very strong list. Looking back at my keep for game 2 I think I just got scared of the land destruction and kept a sub optimal hand which the land destruction just picked apart. In game 3 you are 100% right I need a dork on turn one more often and I just need to put more reps in with the deck. Sorry about the poker chips on camera. When my forest got destroyed, I paid 2 mana to cycle my Cloud of Faeries away to search for some answer. I think I grabbed monkey to deal with mox which had been present game 1 and 2. As for the ports I just got so flustered there and made some errors Thanks for the games Alec, and Aluren will be back!

Urza's Legacy was the first set to have foil cards while the Urza's Saga prerelease introduced the concept with 'Lightning Dragon' as a promo.

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cool vid man . love both these decks ! keep up the good work

Sadly reanimator in premodern has two big factors that hinder it. 1) Entomb is banned and 2) Creatures are not an auto-win when they enter, unlike what happens in other formats where you have Emrakul/Griselbrand/Atraxa/Archon