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SR1 & Stage 1 | Reform Review
In this episode of Reform Review (Episode VI), Casual Conlanger presents and reviews the Spelling Reform step 1 and Stage 1.
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Notation: Following standard notation, phonemic pronunciation is written in /slashes/, phonetic/dialectal pronunciation in [brackets] and graphemes (ie letters in spelling) in ⟨angle brackets⟩. The 'greater than' symbol (which I can't use in the description and will write as '→' in the example) stands for 'becomes,' and '/' means 'in the environment where'. V is vowel and C is consonant, with _ showing in which specific environment the grapheme is placed. I've adapted this notation to concisely show orthographic changes in each reform, although it is ...
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The Apandah Reform | Reform Review
Просмотров 7 тыс.2 года назад
In this episode of Reform Review (Episode V), Casual Conlanger presents and reviews the Apandah Reform. Links: - "FIXING THE ALPHABET" by Apandah: ruclips.net/video/8cRfDptrDTo/видео.html - Sinhala script Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinhala_script - Abugida Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abugida Just so we're clear, I'm a CASUAL conlanger, hence my name, the Casual Conlanger, a...
Benjamin Franklin's Phonetic Alphabet | Reform Review
Просмотров 19 тыс.2 года назад
In this episode of Reform Review (Episode IV), Casual Conlanger presents and reviews BFPA (Benjamin Franklin's Phonetic Alphabet). Links: - Benjamin Franklin's Phonetic Alphabet Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin's_phonetic_alphabet Just so we're clear, I'm a CASUAL conlanger, hence my name, the Casual Conlanger, and if I do a Conlang Showcase, it's a Casual Conlang Showcas...
HOSS | Reform Review
Просмотров 7 тыс.2 года назад
In this episode of Reform Review (Episode III), Casual Conlanger presents and reviews HOSS (Handbook of Simplified Spelling). Links: - Handbook of Simplified Spelling (Archives): archive.org/embed/handbookofsimpli00simprich - Simplified Spelling Board Wkipedia page (discusses HOSS): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simplified_Spelling_Board - jan Misali's channel: ruclips.net/user/HBMmastervideos Just so ...
Parallel English | Reform Review
Просмотров 21 тыс.2 года назад
In this episode of Reform Review (Episode II), Casual Conlanger presents and reviews Parallel English (Globish). Links: - Madhukar Gogate's site: www.mngogate.com/ - Parallel English (Globish (Gogate)) Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globish_(Gogate) - jan Misali's channel: ruclips.net/user/HBMmastervideos Just so we're clear, I'm a CASUAL conlanger, hence my name, the Casual Conlanger, and if...
Cut Spelling | Reform Review
Просмотров 12 тыс.2 года назад
In this episode of Reform Review (Episode I), Casual Conlanger presents and reviews Cut Spelling. Chapters: 0:00 - What is Cut Spelling? 2:01 - What are its deletion rules? 5:02 - What are its other rules? 6:32 - Test time! 7:46 - A written and spoken sample 8:31 - So how good is Cut Spelling? 9:51 - Ranking? Links: - Cut Spelling Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut_Spelling - jan Misali's cha...

Комментарии

  • @davethesid8960
    @davethesid8960 8 дней назад

    1:58 - that's sus

  • @bartoszszczepaniak169
    @bartoszszczepaniak169 12 дней назад

    We really do not need mutilated versions of any language. Seriously

  • @bud-yo
    @bud-yo 22 дня назад

    Oh yeah I remember how many things Benjamin Franklin dod

  • @РайанКупер-э4о
    @РайанКупер-э4о 23 дня назад

    If you want a perfect reform that would work in our imperfect would - just use shavian as Japanese uses furigana. Modern English spelling isn't really far from hieroglyphs with phonetical elements.

  • @GalaxyFlunky2022
    @GalaxyFlunky2022 Месяц назад

    whats crazy is than often became "ofn" but i actually pronounce the t in often so that isnt very helpful. not to mention, im pretty sure there is a difference between "se" and "see" after all in the word "section" "se" is like "seh" and not "see"

  • @LuNa_097
    @LuNa_097 Месяц назад

    I wasn't able to watch it live but i really enjoyed the recording !

  • @Hambrack
    @Hambrack 2 месяца назад

    Personally I think PE is much better than CE. Just the fact that "playwright" isn't written like it should be read "plirit" is a great improvement.

  • @Hambrack
    @Hambrack 2 месяца назад

    So "who" becomes "ho" rather than "hoo", and "trublsm" is supposed to be "troublesome" and not "troublism"? Also, nobody's gonna read "rytly" as "rightly", but as "ritly".

  • @Imacrab398
    @Imacrab398 2 месяца назад

    4:03 He didn't remove Y, he made it so that Y can only be a consonant and it can't be a vowel.

  • @JHF563
    @JHF563 2 месяца назад

    w is mostly related to gb, which is a labialized velar consonat, it is never mainly labial and it never was.

  • @Azeria
    @Azeria 3 месяца назад

    Some people and perhaps even whole dialects do in fact pronounce the d in handkerchief. I personally don't, but I do actually pronounce the -chief like the word chief. Keeping 'hand' as a whole in the spelling also helps by showing it's hand + kerchief, as opposed to say, neck + kerchief. Sign → Syn is crazy, many native English speakers would pronounce Syn like Sin. This is especially true when Siyn is right there as an option, preserving legibility. Who → Ho is also… baffling G becoming J is also wild in a lot of those examples, that's not even close to reasonable.

  • @JR13751
    @JR13751 3 месяца назад

    Some people don't consider ŋ to exist in English. They consider it to be a consonant cluster like 'nc' in cancel.

  • @delly2088
    @delly2088 3 месяца назад

    How about some minor tweaks that no one will spot at first glanse? Kuietly dropping some letterz who'z soundz are already produced by otherz while maybe adding þose who could make writing eazier? Anyway, i wiš you all þe best and pleaze don't fiht about it in þe comments

  • @Alpha222-tkn
    @Alpha222-tkn 4 месяца назад

    You should do a video(s) on Shavian and Quikscript!

  • @SrNeon_
    @SrNeon_ 5 месяцев назад

    As a Sri Lankan, I disagree with Apandahs' reform on the English Alphabet. its blatantly stupid, Sinhala Letters and Words are so damn hard to Write & Pronounce. 5'3 looking ass should be in Prison for what he did

  • @Aesclingua
    @Aesclingua 5 месяцев назад

    "/ai̯/" and "/au̯/" are spelt differently because, in most dialects (including General American and Standard Southern British), they have different starting positions, with "/ai̯/" being closer to [ɑi̯] or [ʌi̯] and "/au̯/" often being more front [æu̯] than the standard symbols suggest. I recommend Geoff Lindsey.

    • @CasualConlanger
      @CasualConlanger 3 месяца назад

      Agreed. I can attest for SSB, my PRICE vowel starts back and my MOUTH starts front. However, the starting vowels of these diphthongs never contrast in this environment, so are they REALLY different phonemes? It depends on how you analyse diphthongs. If they are just the sum of their parts, in SSB for example, PRICE is short START + /j/ and MOUTH is TRAP + /w/. However, short START and TRAP never contrast ("long" START and TRAP do, consider back and bark in SSB), so they could be considered allophones of a same phoneme under this analysis. Now, this might not have been the case for Benjamin Franklin, where the first vowel in each diphthong did contrast, but it seems unlikely that he had long START at the beginning of PRICE as opposed to short START (what I mean is, a vowel of the same quality but not the same length). This might be unclear, since I'm typing on my phone I don't have easy access to the IPA and have had to use lexical sets to describe other lexical sets (which is a bit silly). I can try to clarify another time if you ask nicely :P

    • @Aesclingua
      @Aesclingua 3 месяца назад

      @@CasualConlanger In SSB, "STRUT" (for those who don't merge it with /ə/) neatly fills in the position of the "short START" you are referring to. The symbols used in English phonetics are rather misleading.

    • @CasualConlanger
      @CasualConlanger 3 месяца назад

      Once again, agreed. As Geoff Lindsey argues (big fan of his, btw!), the Gimsonian symbols currently used are completely inadequate when trying to accurately describe SSB, or Modern/Contemporary RP (🤮) as some authors like to call it. As you said, "short START" (which it's worth saying, doesn't really exist in SSB but I created for the sake of the argument) can be STRUT (even the lexical set names are similar, isn't that wonderful?) if we're considering PRICE vowels. All that said, I think most people consider the STRUT vowel to be more closely linked to that of FOOT, whether they have a FOOT-STRUT split or not, as a result of a certain level of phonographic symbolism caused by English spelling remaining practically static since Late Middle English (so both FOOT and STRUT are often written 'u', though, as in the case of foot, book, hood, etc. it can be 'oo'). Once again, if I could use IPA on this damn keyboard I would 😂, or small capital letters for that matter... naming lexical sets MAKES IT SEEM A BIT LIKE I'M SHOUTING. :)

    • @hya2in8
      @hya2in8 2 месяца назад

      often historically & still in some dialects most "long I" sounds were ʌj, distinguished from the aj or ɑj in aye or kayak

  • @adriangd5040
    @adriangd5040 6 месяцев назад

    review jan Misali’s fun riform reform

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 6 месяцев назад

    Conlang critic:Emilian Vowels Hard:a e o i u eu Soft:ya ye yo yu Consonants Hard:p t k f s h ts Voiced hard:b d g v z dz m n l Soft:py ty ky fy sh hy tsh Voiced soft:by dy gy vy zh dzh my ny ly y Other:ks ps(used in Greek loanwords)

    • @kirilvelinov7774
      @kirilvelinov7774 6 месяцев назад

      Note:y written only before vowel eu(yeu) ks and ps become ksh or psh followed by y or gz and bz in the beginning of a word(gzilofon)

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 7 месяцев назад

    Fixing the Argentine Spanish alphabet! Before: C(e/i)=s G(e/i)=x After: C(e/i)=ch G(e/i)=dj Based on Esperanto diacritic(C=ts) Argentina is Italian!

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 7 месяцев назад

    Jhope's phonetic alphabet Diacritics indicate sound change Long vowels:acute(instead of aa,ii,oo,ee,uu) Palatalization:acute(instead of sh,zh,ch,ny)

    • @kirilvelinov7774
      @kirilvelinov7774 7 месяцев назад

      If C with acute is pronounced "ch" then normal C is "ts"

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 7 месяцев назад

    The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog in Jungkook's English alphabet! Za kwik brawn foks qymps ova za lejzi dog Sounds like a mix of German and British😂😂😂

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 7 месяцев назад

    If Jungkook spelled the keyboard... Dzhweuhrtuhooeeorp Ahsdfghyuhkle Zungtchvbunm

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 7 месяцев назад

    X makes a ng sound Q makes a dzh sound Question=kwescan Extra,Exact=ekstra,egzakt

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 7 месяцев назад

    Jungkook's reformed Phonetic English Alphabet Aa(ah) Bb(b) Cc(tsh) Dd(d) Ee(eh) Ff(f) Gg(g) Hh(h) Ii(ee) Jj(y) Kk(k) Ll(l) Mm(m) Nn(n) Oo(oh) Pp(p) Qq(dzh) Rr(r) Ss(s) Tt(t) Uu(oo) Vv(v) Ww(w) Xx(ng) Yy(uh) Zz(z) Jungkook's English alphabet Qyxkuks Ixglic Alfabet

    • @kirilvelinov7774
      @kirilvelinov7774 7 месяцев назад

      The Th and Schwa sounds: Schwa=a(Father=faza) Th=s,z(With=wis)

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 7 месяцев назад

    Fixed Korean spelling Jungkook X Jeongguk O

  • @Writer_Productions_Map
    @Writer_Productions_Map 7 месяцев назад

    CC's Reform Review List: Number: Reform (Commenter; Episode) Episode Seven: Deseret Alphabet (@beansclox; Episode Five) Episode Eight: Portuguese Spelling Reform of 1911 (@Lenapolitainn; Episode Five) Episode Nine: Shavian Alphabet (@beansclox; Episode Four) Episode Ten: Quikscript (@GregWeidman; Episode Five) Episode Eleven: Anglish (@shruggzdastr8-facedclown; Episode Four)

    • @CasualConlanger
      @CasualConlanger 3 месяца назад

      Damn, it's too predictable! I respect the effort 😌

    • @Writer_Productions_Map
      @Writer_Productions_Map 3 месяца назад

      @@CasualConlanger New ep when

    • @CasualConlanger
      @CasualConlanger 3 месяца назад

      Oof... my next video won't be a new episode of Reform Review, but it is something good. I'm not sure when it will be uploaded, I have a very busy summer. I'd hope sometime before September!

    • @Writer_Productions_Map
      @Writer_Productions_Map 12 дней назад

      ​@@CasualConlanger Task failed successfully

  • @8-bitfox716
    @8-bitfox716 7 месяцев назад

    Nice 👍🏼

  • @chaixxxx
    @chaixxxx 8 месяцев назад

    When the imposter is sus 😳

  • @abhishekvishwakarma9431
    @abhishekvishwakarma9431 8 месяцев назад

    If you are an English reformer getting confused or stacking again and again in the same situation, then why not look into other languages that are scientific and have been tested over thousands of years? Yes, my boy, I am suggesting Sanskirt alpha bat, in which you can find or make all the sounds in the universe, e.g. for sh, shaa, si, se ...we have this many letters. श श्क श्ख श्ग श्घ श्ङ श्च श्छ श्ज श्झ श्ञ श्ट श्ठ श्ड श्ढ श्ण श्त श्थ श्द श्ध श्न श्प श्फ श्ब श्भ श्म श्य श्र श्ल श्व श्श श्ष श्स श्ह श्ळ ष ष्क ष्ख ष्ग ष्घ ष्ङ ष्च ष्छ ष्ज ष्झ ष्ञ ष्ट ष्ठ ष्ड ष्ढ ष्ण ष्त ष्थ ष्द ष्ध ष्न ष्प ष्फ ष्ब ष्भ ष्म ष्य ष्र ष्ल ष्व ष्श ष्ष ष्स ष्ह ष्ळ स स्क स्ख स्ग स्घ स्ङ स्च स्छ स्ज स्झ स्ञ स्ट स्ठ स्ड स्ढ स्ण स्त स्थ स्द स्ध स्न स्प स्फ स्ब स्भ स्म स्य स्र स्ल स्व स्श स्ष स्स स्ह स्ळ

  • @7MPhonemicEnglish
    @7MPhonemicEnglish 9 месяцев назад

    I was surprised at how bad BF's proposal was. I have my own which creates a one-to-one correlation between phonemes and graphemes and keeps things simple. I call it 7M Phonemic English. It gets rid of all digraphs, maintains compatibility with cursive writing and uses simple, easy-to-write letters. It only adds 8 more characters to the existing 26 because some characters are reassigned to different speech sounds. I keep as many existing glyph-sound associations as possible. Diphthongs are spelled out (eg 'late' becomes 'leεt'). Notice that the word is not made longer by doing this.

    • @7MPhonemicEnglish
      @7MPhonemicEnglish 9 месяцев назад

      7M Phonemic Alphabet: [uppercase]: H, U, Ŋ, G, I, N, V, ᐱ, ⴳ D, W, E, Ћ, Z, R, P, T K, L, Q, F, S, M, A, X Y, O, J, ᖶ,Ђ, B, Ů, C and Ɂ (glottal stop) [lower case]: h, u, ŋ, g, i, n, v, ʌ, ⴳ d, w, ε, ћ, z, r, p, t k, l, q, f, s, m, a, x y, o, j, e, ѣ, b, ů, c and ɂ (glottal stop) 7M to IPA to Current English Table: 7M | IPA | Current English h | h | hat, [h]at u | ə | mud, m[u]d ŋ | ŋ | sing, si[ng] g | g | get, [g]et i | ɪ | sit, s[i]t n | n | nap, [n]ap v | v | very, [v]ery ʌ | ɑ | not, n[o]t ⴳ | ʒ | measure, mea[s]ure -------------------------------------------------------- d | d | dot, [d]ot w | w | wet, [w]et ε | i | feet, f[ee]t ћ | ð | smooth, smoo[th] z | z | zip, [z]ip r | ɹ | dirt, d[ir]t p | p | pet, [p]et t | t | tub, [t]ub -------------------------------------------------------- k | k | kite, [k]ite l | l | little, [l]itt[le]* q | u | loop, l[oo]p f | f | fig, [f]ig s | s | sit, [s]it m | m | man, [m]an a | æ | cat, c[a]t x | ʃ | dish, di[sh] -------------------------------------------------------- y | j | yellow, [y]ellow o | o̞ | note, n[o]te j | d͡ʒ | judge, [j]u[dg]e e | e | get, g[e]t ѣ | θ | tooth, too[th] b | b | bed, [b]ed ů | ʊ | put, p[u]t c | t͡ʃ | chat, [ch]at and ɂ (glottal stop) crc = church *The letter /L/ represents both a consonant form & a vowel form. Ten pure vowels [no diphthongs]: 7M(U I Λ E R Q A O ᖶ Ů u i ʌ ε r q a o e ů) IPA(ə ɪ ɑ i [ɹ] u æ o̞ e ʊ) 2 additional vowels with no glyphs Dark L /ɫ/ and raised /æ/ This IPA nuttiness will clearly not work for everyday handwriting: ʊ, d͡ʒ, t͡ʃ, o̞, æ, ð, ʒ, ə, ɪ, ɚ

    • @7MPhonemicEnglish
      @7MPhonemicEnglish 9 месяцев назад

      I must provide a demonstration. It may appear very exotic but every word is spelled according to sound and once you learn the sound associated with each letter, it's actually quite easy. Currently, we do not spell words the way that they sound, so it's our current orthography that is bizarre and inscrutable.

    • @7MPhonemicEnglish
      @7MPhonemicEnglish 9 месяцев назад

      Dεr Sr, Ʌε hav cranskrʌεbd yor alfubet, etc., wic Ʌε ѣiŋk muεt bε uv srvis tu ћoz, hq wix tq ukwʌεr an akyrrit prununsεeεxun, if ћat kůd bε fikst; but Ʌε sε menε inkunvεnyunsis, az wel az difukltεz, ћat wůd utend ћu briŋiŋ yor letrz and orѣʌgrufε intu kʌmun yqz. Ʌl aqr etimʌlujεz wůd bε lʌst, kʌnsikwentlε wε kůd nʌt asrteεn ћu mεniŋ uv menε wrdz; ћu distiŋkxun, tq, bitwεn wrdz uv difrunt mεniŋ and simyulr saqnd wůd bε yqslus, unles wε liviŋ ruεtrz publix nq edixunz. In xort Ʌε bilεv wε must let pεpl spel ʌn in ћer old weε and (az wε fʌεnd it εzεist) dq ћu seεm aqrselvz."

    • @7MPhonemicEnglish
      @7MPhonemicEnglish 9 месяцев назад

      It's important to realize that the obstacle of rewriting printed works is now overcome by technology that didn't exist in Ben Franklin's day. Also, it is not the purpose of written language to either function as it's own history book or it's own dictionary. The purpose of written language is to make spoken language span a greater length of time and provide it with portability to a far greater audience. The written word should not be saddled, encumbered or crippled with extraneous history or dictionary duties. To focus on those things is to allow your mind to become addled with senseless priorities.

  • @kadenvanciel9335
    @kadenvanciel9335 9 месяцев назад

    Might I recommend looking into the Initial Teaching Alphabet?

  • @JuniperHatesTwitterlikeHandles
    @JuniperHatesTwitterlikeHandles 9 месяцев назад

    SO. Am I correct in saying pear would be spelled per under SR1? That seems like an issue. I like DUE though.

    • @CasualConlanger
      @CasualConlanger 9 месяцев назад

      The vowel in 'pear' is generally transcribed as /eə/ (even if it's inaccurate), in my dialect it's [ɛː]. SR1 only concerns short /ɛ/ (as traditionally transcribed) in words like head, any, etc. Good remark!

    • @JuniperHatesTwitterlikeHandles
      @JuniperHatesTwitterlikeHandles 9 месяцев назад

      @@CasualConlanger Ah, it's the same vowel as in the -ary (or especially -arily) suffix for me so, that's why I was confused.

  • @momu5464
    @momu5464 9 месяцев назад

    Please do mine next. Momuspellîng: Propósal - Normal Ææ - 'a't'e' Ðð -'th'e Khkh - lo'ch' Œœ - l'oo'k Uu - 'u'p Ww - t'oo' Yy - m'y' Ʒʒ - vi's'ion Jj/Dʒdʒ - 'j'u'dg'e Cedilla - for words like circle/ cheff Acute - emphasis Grave - schwa Circumflex - long Breve - semivowel Diæresis - no compound •Dyagraphs: ar, ch, er, gh, igh, ir, ng, or, ph, qu, th and wh all stæў normal, •Acçents arè optĭonal, •Nĭw cḧäracters can be substitĭwtèd by exístîng w̆onès, •Spelling wœd bê alterèd às littl às possibl untíl it is clôsè enóuf tò ænў dyalect, •increméntal refórm wœd bê ĭwsèd. Sampl text: Ðæt quick beiʒè fox jumpèd in ðè æir ôver iich thin dog. Lœk ôw̆t, Y shôw̆t, for hê's foĭlèd ўw àgǽĭn, crêǽting cḧæos. Or: Dat quick beige fox jumped in de air over iich thin dog. Loek owt Y showt, for he's foiled yw again, creating chaos.

  • @7MPhonemicEnglish
    @7MPhonemicEnglish 9 месяцев назад

    I think that my system is better and improves efficiency quite a bit more. It's called 7M Phonemic English. It has 34 graphemes including a glottal stop. Dipthongs are spelled out. We should look to the children when assessing intuitiveness. They will spell 'was' w-u-z. In their minds the 'u' makes the Schwa/Strut sound. There are numerous short words that function this way: 'mud, dud, lug, jug, but, shrug, mug, tug, hug, nut, rut, drug, rug, cut, etc.) I really don't understand to predilection that phonologists have with chasing after any glyph other than the 'u' for this sound.

    • @7MPhonemicEnglish
      @7MPhonemicEnglish 9 месяцев назад

      My system is designed for kids learning English reading and writing in early life. It may seem dumb as a five-year-old, but that's exactly the point. If you're an engineer, you should always design your products or processes with a goal for them to be monkey stupid. That way mistakes are reduced greatly across the board of users from the dufus to the genius.

    • @7MPhonemicEnglish
      @7MPhonemicEnglish 9 месяцев назад

      Spelling reform will have to happen democratically as people recognize the value of a new system. 1. Easy to learn. Trim 2 years off your public education. 2. Almost never have to lookup the spelling of a word. 3. Greater efficiency. Fewer keystrokes and less ink and paper. More communication for less writing and typing.

    • @7MPhonemicEnglish
      @7MPhonemicEnglish 9 месяцев назад

      We need to keep in mind the primary purpose of writing. It's to give permanence to what would normally be spoken verbage. The language of the eye should match the language of the mouth. Instead of focusing on the primary purpose, the linguist are always fixated on etymology, definitions across multiple forms of a word and the horror of "introducing chaos' as orthographies diverge among the many dialects. I say Stop Fretting! English is well on the way of being an international language. People will gravitate toward a common dialect when they realize how much easier and profitable it is. My 7M System is designed for General American English which is the dialect and accent of our American Dictionaries. Nobody has a problem pronouncing words their own way despite the Dictionary telling them that it's wrong, so why worry about them being challenged by an orthography at odds with their accent? It's like everyone allows the CLOWNS to blind them to the correct hierarchy of objectives regarding written language.

  • @Albukhshi
    @Albukhshi 9 месяцев назад

    I think I can help with some of the oddities in Franklin's system that you bring up. Hopefully, this helps: @ 5:38 How? It isn't. Sheridan (1753) suggests /ɐi/ or /ɒi/ (he says it's the price vowel (we'll get to it) but with a more open mouth and sharper glide). Johnson (unhelpfully) says it's pretty similar to how the individual letters sound (so a diphthong, but we don't know what sort of o he's on about). but it looks like Franklin is describing something like a triphthong. Judging from how he wrote it, perhaps /ɒɪi/, or similar? Personally, I think it was possibly a clumsy attempt to just write /ɒi/, or something similar. @ 5:45 Here mid-18th century dictionaries help a lot (many come with pronunciation guides): Mid-18th Century "standard" (read: middle and Upper-class Southeast England) pronunciation of the upper one was basically either /ʌi/ or /əi/--the latter was the conservative pronunciation. The House phoneme was--based on what Sheridan states in 1753-- this: /ɒʊ/ (older speakers perhaps still had /ɔʊ/). The former lines up perfectly with what Franklin is writing here. Actually, the table should overall, look like this: a, ɑ, ɛ ɪ, ʌi (or əi) , ɒi, e: ʊ, u, ɒʊ, o: The cut vowel was /ʌ/. Johnson also supplies ə or ɨ for cases like the e in "chicken"; Franklin likely didn't distinguish between them and the cut vowel in his proposal, hence some of the spelling used. As to the choice of IPA letters: the "all" vowel was described as being similar to the Dutch a, which was not the same as the a in "hat", which was described as being like the Italian a. Italian--mercifully--changed relatively slowly, so the a then was as it is now. Dutch has both a's, so that suggests Johnson (who goes into the specifics), is describing a back vowel. Comparison with older and newer descriptions of English then provides evidence that this was a rounded back vowel--at least for the long version; the short version might have been unrounded (or it might not have; we don't know if vowel length was the only true contrast). I know that the earliest RP recordings have unrounded pronunciations if Simon Roper is any clue. The resulting accent is...well, it's not like any modern dialect of English. It sounds modern--like something you could imagine being used on the streets today--but you wouldn't know exactly where he's from. However, a lot of people say it sounds Irish or Scottish (the latter due to the pronunciation of r: every description before 1750 favors the alveolar trill as the standard, with two allophones.) Look up A.Z.Foreman's reading of the Declaration of Independence: that's the closest I can find to what Franklin's getting at.

    • @Albukhshi
      @Albukhshi 4 месяца назад

      Oh, I forgot, coming back here: The sound of the a in "name" in the standard language was a pure vowel at the time, not a diphthong as it is now in RP or general American. Same goes for the sound of the o in "stone". These vowels don't break until c. 1800 or after.

  • @sambird7
    @sambird7 9 месяцев назад

    Haha, democracy, riiiiight

  • @Yoreni
    @Yoreni 10 месяцев назад

    yay another video. i kind of want to share my english respelling in this comment. im calling it a respelling rather than a reform because its really for personal use and for fun. It is a basic phonetic respelling that uses the latin alphabet so it is not super intressting. It is biased on one accent however as something i use personally i like it this way. It is based on Dr Geoff Linseys SSB. Now here is the alphabet. A a /a/ Á á /ɑː/ B b /b/ C c /t͡ʃ/ D d /d/ E e /ɛ/ É é /ɛː/ F f /f/ G g /g/ H h /h/ I i /ɪ/ Í í /ɪː/ J j /d͡ʒ/ K k /k/ L l /l/ M m /m/ N n /n/ O o /ɔ/ Ó ó /oː/ P p /p/ R r /ɹ/ S s /s/ T t /t/ U u /ɵ/ Ú ú /ɵː/ (rarely used but it exists) Ul ul /u/ (used for words affected by l-vocalization) V v /v/ W w /w/ Y y /j/ Z z /z/ Þ þ /θ/ Ð ð /ð/ Ŋ ŋ /ŋ/ Ȝ ȝ /ʃ/ or /ʒ/ (i couldnt think of another letter for the other sound) Ǝ ǝ /ə/ Ǝ́ ǝ́ /əː/ Diphlongs aw /aw/ áy /ɑj/ ey /ɛy/ iy /ɪj/ ow /ɔw/ óy /oj/ uw /ʉw/ ǝw /ǝw/ Q and X are can be used if it appears in the name of something or the normal spelling (jank i know but replacing with <kw> and <ks> is fine as well) and the make the sound <kw> and <ks> respectively. for example box -> box exam -> igzam question -> qesjǝn (the u is not carried over) quiche -> kiyȝ Now an example I used ChatGPT to generate the original sentance Original: Golf is a game where players use clubs to hit a small ball into holes on a big grassy area. People play on a course with 9 or 18 holes. The aim is to get the ball in each hole using the fewest hits possible. Players use different clubs for different shots, like a driver for long shots and a putter for close ones. It's a game that needs skill, patience, and a good eye for distance and direction. Many folks enjoy playing golf because it's a fun way to spend time outdoors while testing their skills. Respelling: Gowf iz ǝ geym wé pleyǝz yuwz klǝbs tǝ hit ǝ smul bul intuw howz on ǝ big grásiy ériyǝ. Piypul pley on ǝ kós wið 9 ó 18 howz. Ðǝ eym iz tǝ get ðǝ bul in iyc how yuwziŋ ðǝ fyuwist hits posǝbul. pleyǝz yuwz difrǝnt klǝbs fó difrǝnt ȝots, láyk ǝ jráyvǝ fó loŋ ȝots and ǝ pǝtǝ fó klǝws wǝns. its ǝ geym ðat niydz sgiw, peyȝǝns, and ǝ gud áy fó disdǝns and direkȝǝn. Meniy fǝwks injoy pleyiŋ gowf bǝkoz its ǝ fǝn wey tǝ sbend táym awtdóz wáyul testiŋ ðé sgiwz.

    • @CasualConlanger
      @CasualConlanger 8 месяцев назад

      Hi! A nice respelling in essence, as it's a personal project I can't criticise its goals because it's just for fun (I love the way you spend your time :D), but there are a couple things that strike me as odd in the reform. If the respelling is more styles off your idiolect than off the 'general' SSB proposed by Lindsey (I myself speak SSB and am familiar with his work), I apologise in advance, I'm obviously not criticising the way you speak, but many (other?) SSB speakers would be in disagreement with certain words' spellings, as well as some graph choices. - /l/ vocalising to [w] (thus written 'w') before /f/ in: 'golf', 'holes', 'folks', 'skills', etc. but not in 'small', 'ball', 'people', etc. when 'Ul ul /u/ (used for words affected by L-vocalisation)'... maybe you used the wrong term. If this were a 'serious' reform for SSB speakers, I'd strip it back to not show L-vocalisation, because many speakers (including myself) don't have it, or have a little, or not in the same environments - 'sbend' and 'sgiwz': even though this is more like how words are pronounced, it's not generalised and is more like a phonetic 'quirk' of SSB than anything - I think a macron or other similar diacritic would look better than an acute (notice how combining acute and your capital for ə looks... it doesn't seem to format very well) - some of the character choices aren't the best but that comes mostly down to opinion All in all, the respelling would be better if it stuck to a more general baseline, and if certain characters were tweaked. (Again, if this is a personal reform based on your idiolect of SSB, if that is your dialect, more power to you, please think nothing of these criticisms).

  • @tincan357
    @tincan357 11 месяцев назад

    can you make a video about the “unifon” neography for english please

  • @niallkaynen5885
    @niallkaynen5885 11 месяцев назад

    can i request the Unifon Alphabet

  • @Osz6
    @Osz6 Год назад

    Will you try to make one?

    • @CasualConlanger
      @CasualConlanger 11 месяцев назад

      You'll have to wait and see ;)

    • @Osz6
      @Osz6 11 месяцев назад

      @@CasualConlanger <3

    • @Osz6
      @Osz6 2 месяца назад

      @@CasualConlanger are you done yet?

  • @renerpho
    @renerpho Год назад

    Here's your citation for 0:14 (Martin Gardner, "The Unexpected Hanging", 3rd edition, 1991, page 45): "The man who has broken more previous dissection records than anyone living today - he is the world's leading expert on such problems - is Harry Lindgren, an examiner of patents for the Australian government. He has studied all types of dissection, including plane figures with curved outlines and three-dimensional solid forms (so far as I know, no dissector has yet explored the higher dimensions!), but most of his attention has been focused on the polygons."

    • @renerpho
      @renerpho Год назад

      And if you don't know who Martin Gardner is, you definitely should look him up.

    • @CasualConlanger
      @CasualConlanger Год назад

      Lindgren’s geometry book looked quite interesting! Nice find for the citation!

  • @YBRIS4036
    @YBRIS4036 Год назад

    These problems would be avoided if the reforms had a sound to symbol corrispondency like italian (i know in italian it s not perfect but it s very predictable, for example the letter c)

  • @Nogha12
    @Nogha12 Год назад

    I don’t get why a lot of spelling reforms want to get rid of the “ph” digraph. If anything we should just regularize consonant+h always being a digraph and get rid of exceptions like “ghost”, because I really don’t think it would be hard or confusing for learners of English.

    • @newcantinacrispychickentac7754
      @newcantinacrispychickentac7754 11 месяцев назад

      Why would f→ph be better than ph→f?

    • @Osz6
      @Osz6 11 месяцев назад

      @@newcantinacrispychickentac7754 doesn't ph look beautiful?

    • @penguinlim
      @penguinlim 9 месяцев назад

      @@Osz6 phun, phish, phantastic, wonderphul, phork, saphe, phlag, phridge, rephrigerator certainly has a... unique look. looks nice in some words, odd in others.

    • @Osz6
      @Osz6 9 месяцев назад

      @@penguinlim I think the words with ph should stay as same, both ph>f and f>ph look odd :P

    • @đœwæþ
      @đœwæþ 3 месяца назад

      Ph looks ugly in English

  • @大円三とわはSMM
    @大円三とわはSMM Год назад

    do robwords' reform