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Joe McNeill
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Добавлен 18 фев 2015
I talk in depth about artists that interest me, and hopefully you too
How This American Legend Barely Did ANYTHING On His Biggest Song
Thanks a bunch for tuning in! It's about someone I've always seen a fascination toward yet never delved into the full story of, and it was highly worth it! Never really seen a modern video essay / mini-documentary on Frankie and his career, so I'm glad I could be one of the first!
Just to clarify a couple small mistakes:
- I accidentally pronounced Bob Crewe as Bob CROWE the whole video, I’m so sorry
- December 1963 actually didn't go number one in 5 different COUNTRIES, it went number one on 5 different CHARTS (US Cashbox)
Chapters:
00:00 - Rags To Riches
02:32 - Everything Starts to Change
05:03 - December 1963 (Oh What A Night)
07:50 - Frankie Never Stopped
And now for the list of various sourc...
Just to clarify a couple small mistakes:
- I accidentally pronounced Bob Crewe as Bob CROWE the whole video, I’m so sorry
- December 1963 actually didn't go number one in 5 different COUNTRIES, it went number one on 5 different CHARTS (US Cashbox)
Chapters:
00:00 - Rags To Riches
02:32 - Everything Starts to Change
05:03 - December 1963 (Oh What A Night)
07:50 - Frankie Never Stopped
And now for the list of various sourc...
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10cc's I'm Not in Love: How To Create a Legacy
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10cc: One of the most underrated rock bands of the 1970s in my opinion, and I've never seen a video essay/short documentary like this on them before so it only felt right. TIME STAMPS: 0:00 Intro 0:15 Part 1: Pre 'I'm Not in Love' 2:35 Part 2: Making 'I'm Not in Love' 4:41 Part 3: I'm Not in Love 6:25 Part 4: Post 'I'm Not in Love' 8:48 Part 5: 'I'm Not in Love's Influence CREDITS: This video w...
Stop Making Sense: Finding the Joy in Music
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Drywall Studio's video on the same topic: ruclips.net/video/f7b1WXQisjE/видео.htmlsi=RQUeggB0teRlr127 The audio is a bit hit or miss in this, I don;t know why my recording was so off but you can still hear me regardless, sorry if it's a bit off-putting either way. More videos on the way, whether music related or not, stay tuned for it and please comment any thoughts down below. Thanks again :)
The Boys | A Masterclass in Trusting No-One
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The Boys | A Masterclass in Trusting No-One
Brat 💚
Chromakopia?
Have a look at my AOTY playlist on my channel, it's in there somewhere....
Such an underrated album. Really cool to see her progress as an artist (and whip my hair is a banger, you're right)
I never would've expected an album by Will Smith's daughter to be so great, but I totally agree with you. Also thanks for the support on these shorts!
Youre a really wellspoken guy
Aw, that's so sweet, thank you haha
This is bizarre. The creator of this drivel doesn't even recognize that Frankie's songwriter, arranger and producer is Bob Crewe not "Bob Crow".
Look in the description please. I immediately realised once I got into the editing process after I had recorded the voiceover. Sorry for any offence
@@joemcneill1180Come on! If you actually knew anything about this topic you would know exactly who Bob Crewe was. You repeatedly called him Bob Crow out of ignorance; it was not a mispronunciation.
@@Fitzrovialitter I did not do this to spite Bob Crewe, if he didn’t exist I wouldn’t have been able to make this video. I came in new to this topic and did as much research as I could in a short amount of time. It’s a mispronunciation on my part that I’ve corrected myself on before you even commented about it. Have a good day
@@joemcneill1180 Just as I suspected. The creator of this video personally knows nothing about the subject - The Four Seasons - and just cobbled together a cod biography based upon his "research ", perhaps with the misguided intent and hope to monetize this niche interest... and by "research" I mean uncritically reading Wikipedia and watching random RUclips videos on the topic, with no personal understanding or perspective, and no ability to discriminate fact from fiction. Whoever suggested you "mispronounced" Bob Crewe's name as "Bob Crow" "out of spite"? Certainly not I. But you didn't even "mispronounce" it: you thought his name really was Crow.
@ I have barely 150 subscribers and this is filled with copyrighted music, there is no way I can monetise this content. I do this to provide a concise and educational explanation to people of a figure I became fascinated by in a short span of time. If you think this entire video is worth dismissing because of one mispronunciation that I’ve already apologised for, I’d prefer if you take your opinions elsewhere. Thank you
A masterpiece biography
Thank you so much Marty, really means a ton!
Mmmm... it's sort of necessary to mention why they declined so abruptly at the end of the 1960s: "Genuine Imitation Life Gazette". Yeah, they tried to go "psychedelic". Admittedly, Crewe and Gaudio did a great production on that album, but musically it's...weird. It's not exactly rooted in tie-dye and weed smoke; it's more like the part of the 1960s that you got with the 1964 World's Fair, but with "Trippy Effects™" added. Flopped HARD, as I recall...the single "Idaho" never took off (although the B-side, "Something's On Her Mind", had some really neat 60s production...and probably should've been the A, tbh), Jethro Tull lifted the cover idea for "Thick as a Brick", and overall, it sounds "phoned in", like some sort of contractual obligation. Very strange piece of work.
Interesting. I'm very much not familiar with the album as a whole, I only paid brief mind to it during my research for that neat fact of Jethro Tull using the album cover concept for themselves. As someone who didn't live during these times, your insight on why they declined is pretty cool. In terms of why I didn't mention the late 60s/early 70s declining period: It was purely to keep the video concise and focus more time on the key events, it was a lot easier to summarise almost a decades worth of decline in a couple sentences rather than talk through each album individually. Thanks for your comment though, was cool to hear about that album!
Genuine I Imitation Life Gazette was full of beautiful songs, lyrics written by Jake Holmes. I can't imagine what was possibly "psychedelic" about it.
Doing very now ,except miming
Frankie Valli has, for me, a candidate for the most annoying voice in pop, down there with Morrissey and Phil Oakey. So many of the Four Seasons' songs would sound so much better without that falsetto.
Definitely a voice that divides people!
I like it though.
Frankie Valli is still on the road at 90. He'll be performing 2 shows in my area in November 2024.
It’s pretty incredible isn’t it
Miming rather than "performing".
I like how they show Frankie Avalon at the beginning as if he was Frankie Valli
Not exactly sure which clip you’re referring to, but if it’s the intro, then that is definitely Frankie. ruclips.net/video/0gNYYJv4anA/видео.htmlsi=Il4J-Ys2cBB6smXf
@@joemcneill1180 It is mostly Frankie Valli, but it also prominently shows an image of Frankie Avalon for some reason.
@@razmo21 Is there a chance you can show the timestamp where it is at all?
@@joemcneill1180about 11 seconds
THIS IS AMAZING
THANK YOU SO MUCH
Great job man, very easy to listen to and watch
Thank you so much! Means the world :)
ACTUALLY INSANE QUALITY FOR A VIDEO?? i was thinking this was from a channel with upwards of hundreds of thousands of subscribere, incredible work!!
Thank you SO MUCH! Comments like this mean the world :))
@@joemcneill1180 quite literally went back and binged all your videos, they're fantastic works!!
Insane inaccuracies rather than quality.
This is such a well put together mini documentary, well done mate. The Four Seasons music is something myself, my parents and grandparents have loved, although with the amount I play it, they may have become sick of it 😂 Their music is some of the only music that can genuinely make me happy and improve my mood, no matter the song, whether it’s the funky, upbeat tempo of their 70s stuff like Who Loves You, or the beautiful elegance of a song like Rag Doll, it never fails to cheer me up.
Thank you so much for the compliment, the one thing Frankie’s music always felt to me was warm, and I think you put it pretty lovely in this paragraph!
Who loves youu from 1975 was a great comeback. Opening line reminds me of Kojak, LOL!
When I was making this video, this song came to honestly become one of my favourites, just behind December 1963 of course ;)
Ther r sooo-MANY GREAT-songz, 'out-there'! Yet (arguably!) this song, &, 'Dust-in-the-Wind' are2 of the MOST-memorable & MOST 'moving' songz ever-made. Yes, ther are MANY-MANY other 'moody' songz, which will kick you (one) right-in-the 'feels' -- such-az: the Korgis's - 'E.G.t.L.S.' & 'In this Shirt' by the Irrepressibles...., yet, '10cc' & 'Kansas' 'signature-songz will, live-FOREVER!!
What made the Four Seasons was Frankie Valley's voice, but it was, also, the reason that they were not bigger than they were. For whatever reason, back in the day, you had this slew of male singers going soprano in a falseto, We could never figure it out. I remember back in 1963 hearing Two Faces Have I for the first time. You immediately knew it was a guy, but what guy is going to be seen or heard singing along in his falsetto voice? Then there was the Newebeats with their sophmoric I like Bread and Butter, something which should have been heard once in a studio and the tape immediately burned. Couple years passed and they charted in 65 with Run Baby Run, in the style of the Four Seasons. Not tall on the charts, but it had potentional if they had trashed the sopranno. Del Shannon came out of the gate in 1961 with Runaway. Great song, but what f--ked it up was he had to go into a soprano during the chorus. What the record companies were not getting was that if you were out on a date, the only tunes we had to listen to was what was on the airwaves. Couple guys had 45s in their cars, effectivetly useless, but looked cool. Anyway, if they got rid of the soprano voices, their songs would have even been bigger than they were. There was no guy in the world who was going to sing to Four Seasons songs when you were out on a date. Now, if you were sloshed at some point in the evening guys might try it. About the most iconic Four Seasons song was Working My Way Back to You. This was a song all of us could relate to doing something in a relationship which, whatever you did, caused a breakup. Depending on what you did, maybe you could get back together, maybe there was no going back. We were going through a transition back then where we could not specifically identify with the changes going on in music. Most of us did not like the Beatles. Mainly, young girls liked them. The Beach Boys were a west coast deal. We were east coast guys and the Beach Boys may have been the Beatles as far as we were concerned. I went to one of their first concerts on the east coast because there was a girl who I really wanted to go out with and kept turing me down. I finally got my chance with her to take her to a Beach Boys concert. I should have figured that if she said yes to me, she probably was turned down by twenty five other guys whom she wanted to take her to see the Beach Boys. From a male perspective, the Dave Clark Five or Jerry and the Pacemakers made a lot more sense than the Beatles did to most guys, but girls liked the Beatles. Anyway, had the Four Seasons put their records out without the sopranno voice of Franke Valley or him going into a falsetto, they would have been a lot bigger than they were. I could say a lot more about the time back then but the Four Seasons were saying what we were feeling and thinking inwardly, but not what we were going to express outwardly, if that makes sense. Let me try it one more different way to put this into perspective. Lou Christie had an almost monster hit in 66 called Rhapsody in the Rain, the bodacious, uncensored verson. Lots of us had been there. Just imagine as you are listening to the song play, you had met someone, the intensity of meeting that person landed you and her in the backseat of your car. You never told her what was going on in your life, but the experience you had with her just rocked your world from one end to the other. You wanted it to continue, to go on forever. You park outside her door one night, on the street rather, smoking a cigarette and drinking from a bottle sitting in your car. You want her, you want to go up and knock on her door, but you don't, yoiu can't. She was the best thing which happened to you in a long time. You can't do what you really want to do. Reality sets in. You throw the nail outside on the deck, start your car and leave. Couple days later, you were headed for Vietnam. It no longer mattered.
It's always really cool hearing opinions from someone who really lived in the timeline of events while Frankie was on the scene, and it sounds like you've got a lot of experience haha. Thanks for watching and your comment :)
Great comment.
@@theobserver2309 Exactly :)
@@tibetbill What a load of rambling semi-literate nonsense . And his name is Valli, not "Valley".
What a brilliant falsetto voice Frankie Valli has. Unique.
Fascinating voice, fascinating story
my mother was a big fan of frankie valli and the four seasons i can't tell you how many times she watched the movie jersey boys. if she were here today she would love this i wish she could see it.
I’m so glad you liked it, messages like this mean the world, thank you so much
A man who sings like a teenage girl going through puberty.
It’s definitely polarising haha
@@TheJbhmetal Valli doesn't sing like that at all. You're just speaking your own fantasies out loud .
@@Fitzrovialitter cmon. "Sheerrieeeeee"
@@TheJbhmetal Cite one single example of a teenage girl's "going through puberty" that sounds anything like Valli. Just one.
At about 4:20 it was stated that Bob Gaudio wrote "My Eyes Adored You." He did not. "My Eyes Adored You" was written by Bob Crewe and Kenny Nolan. David
You’re completely right, can’t believe I missed that. Thanks for pointing that out
Gerry , was the greatest on this
He was, even went on the marry Frankie’s daughter at one point!
t video was amazing, the editing was top-notch! We definitely need a series about the four seasons. Jersey Boys didn't really do justice to the band's career, and with the pacing of the songs being all over the place, it's hard for a true fan not to nitpick. It's a shame that there isn't much demand for them, they are truly underrated.
Thanks so much for the support! Frankie and Four Seasons hold a weird place in pop culture where they are wildly popular but don’t hold nearly the same fanbase or legacy as many of their other contemporaries in my opinion. That’s why I thought it would make an interesting point of discussion, glad you liked it :)
@@kaijuclash5480 Oh and how I agree. A Series would be great and with the proper promotion I believe would draw interest. I also agree, very underrated.
My number one all time favorite band, Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons. A new subscriber to your channel.
Oh my God thanks George!! I used some of the footage you’ve uploaded to your channel for this very video. I can’t thank you enough for your dedication to bringing his appearances onto this platform :))
@@joemcneill1180 You are most welcome. So glad you found some of the footage on my channel useful for this vid. Huge fan of Valli and the Seasons and really enjoying your channel also. Take care and be well.
Don’t mean to be a pest, but one last thing. I’m going to post the link to this vid on several Valli Facebook pages. Take care.
@@georgemusic4all4seasons You are absolutely not don’t worry haha. I appreciate everything, I’d be honoured if you post this wherever you see fit. If you have any pages you want me to follow I can try. Thanks again
Fantastic editing and presentation. I never even knew he had hearing problems. Great job with the video
Thank you so much, glad you liked it! There’s hopefully plenty more to come in the future….
Such a brilliant story of Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons it was my first ever album brought back some wonderful memories thank you
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Some other iconic tunes that used lush vocal choir were: Theme from Harry's Game (Clannad), Just the way you are (Billy Joel), Lady in Red (Chris DeBurgh)
Good mentions. In the video I even talk about Billy Joel using I’m Not in Love as direct inspiration for Just the Way You Are, it’s a great way to fill the palette according to him
I had just broken up with my high school sweetheart the summer of its release. I remember standing in line for a roller coaster at an amusement park while it was broadcast from the park's sound system. I was struck by the subtle discord of the antagonist' s head and heart. His head (the lyrics)saying he's not in love, his heart (the sound) feeling as if he's head over heels in love. The idea that someone may claim they don't love you, while they secretly do, somehow softened the grief, helping me to endure the loss. Thanks for the memory!
Haha no worries, I’m glad this could help you bring back an old memory :)
Well, I was thirteen when this came out and remember it being constantly played on the radio. Obviously, like most listeners at the time I had no clue as to the complexity of its structure. I think Mike Oldfield probably made use of this technique on Tubular Bells. It also gave Will to Power its biggest hit.
Yeah another commenter made me aware of Will to Power and their version, crazy to think a song is so good, it can give a band their best known song haha
This is a PERFECT headphone song! Hearing that heavenly chorus coming from the middle of your brain is like an out of body experience.
Haha absolutely!!
A great tribute. Thanks.
No problem, glad you enjoyed it!
How timeless is this song? It was played so much on radio in the 1990s that it was only a few years ago, that I found out it wasn't a '90s song.
Yep, came out in 1975, a pretty great year for music in my opinion. I reckon that’s why I think it’s been so overshadowed by all their competition
You may have been listening to the Will to Power vesrsion.
@@jeremypearson6852 I don't remember it being a female vocalist, but the timeframe is definitely right. Still, it's been three decades. I could be merging memories of it being on the radio with the song I'm used to hearing. That is, the memories of it being on the radio would be the Will to Power version, but the actual song I remember is the 10cc version because it's the only one I listened to since rediscovering it when the interwebs came along.
Awesome video! I grew up listening to my sister’s copy of 10cc that she picked up new at a college concert (I still have that vinyl!). She didn’t like it but to me there was something special about every song even though the whole record was strange to a kid on a Texas farm in the ‘70’s. I still find myself singing “Johnny Don’t Do It” surprisingly remembering at least most of the words. I’ve never known another 10cc fan. “I’m Not In Love” was soooo different that for years I didn’t know it was them! But it’s always been one of the most beautiful and stunning songs I’ve ever heard. Thanks, man!!
Thank for the kind words and story!! As a British guy, it’s strange to know that this video has spread to American people haha, but I’m glad you enjoyed it :)
Brilliant video, subscribed, thank you.❤
Thank you so much for watching and subscribing ❤️
What about the secretary whispering? And the bass solo? Iconic as the vocals. Lacking.....
I think the production is the most iconic part personally, and the whispering/bass solo in the bridge section definitely adds to the atmosphere in a way I love. I just didn't account for it during the writing of this video as I think it speaks for itself, but it is VERY much an amazing touch to transition back into the final section of the song
“Big boys don’t cry”, who could forget that?
Nice! 10cc is the best music ever made for me. Even now so many years later it gives me energy, It is a shame Kevin and Lol left but....we can still listen to their legacy. Amazing stuff.
Agreed on the energy part, especially Good Morning Judge haha. At least Kev and Lol could give us some great music on their own :)
How I love Graham Gouldman! He wrote “For Your Love” and “No Milk Today” as a teenager.
@@LeslieGMN Definitely a backbone for the Hollies going forward!
I used to love these guys. They were a great group and pioneers of pre MTV video
Yeah, Godley and Creme especially. Stewart Copeland of The Police reckons they’re one of the original pioneers of the modern music video!
This is really, really good! Great archive research, narration and a really pacy edit.
Thanks so much Greg! Glad you liked the style :)
I found this video from your Reddit post on a Prog Rock subreddit and this is 10 times better than what I thought it would be. Fantastic editing here and pretty informative. I can’t wait to see more videos about other bands that need more respect.
Thank you so much man, really appreciate it. Yeah I’ve got another one in the books for an interesting story on a different song in the 70s, you’ll have to see what one it is soon….;)
great job !
Thanks a ton! You got a favourite song by 10cc?
@@joemcneill1180 in my opinion, I'm not in love is in an album which deserves a complete analysis by the concept it carries, that is to say the clichés in cinema and pop culture. The Original Soundtrack is an art-rock album that arrives in a pivotal period of the 70s with a meta discourse on culture, the way of receiving and listening to music. How Dares You deserves just as much attention and Godley&Creme's albums are not well known enough (Freeze Frame is a pure gem).
@@franckleard6172 They’re both underrated for sure. I’ve grown to love How Dare You as my favourite though. Don’t Hang Up has quickly become one of my top 3 songs by them!
great podcast voice :)
Thanks, no ones ever said that one before!
Bosh
Loved the vid mate, the only thing I think you forgot to mention is towards the end how Homelander puts his trust in Bill and it’s kinda left as that. Looking forward to how it pans out in season 4