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Meanderings - The Ashen Forge: Episode 137
Join us on a journey through the world of Ashes of Creation as we explore the bard class, NPC factions, game maps, and more! Stay tuned for updates on the alpha 2 release date and key price.
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The Ashen Forge: Episode 137
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Видео

How much should it cost to alpha test a game?
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If you're wondering how much it should cost to alpha test a game, this video is for you! We'll discuss the cost for key factors in MMORPG alpha testing, using Ashes of Creation as an example. An Alpha Tester's Thoughts On the State of Ashes of Creation Alpha 2: ruclips.net/video/fWK1mbufgV0/видео.html Join us every Sunday for live shows at 9PM Eastern / 6PM Pacific on Twitch! Twitch: www.twitch...
A Bard Joins The Party (featuring SticQeno)
Просмотров 586Месяц назад
Join us as we welcome the talented SticQeno to our party in Ashes of Creation! As an artist and musician, SticQeno brings a lot of unique and new ideas to content creation. Watch as we talk to him about that and his interest in Ashes of Creation. Big things are coming for Q. @AshesofCreation SticQeno's socials: Twitch: www.twitch.tv/sticqeno RUclips: www.youtube.com/@sticqeno288 TikTok: www.tik...
Massive Improvements for Ashes of Creation Alpha 2
Просмотров 2,1 тыс.Месяц назад
Intrepid Studios just announced massive server improvements for Ashes of Creation! Dynamic server meshing has been covered so let's learn about replication graphs instead in this exciting update. Alpha 2 is going to be poggers! @AshesofCreation @stevenjsharif An Alpha Tester's Thoughts On the State of Ashes of Creation Alpha 2: ruclips.net/video/fWK1mbufgV0/видео.html Development Update with Se...
Setting Expectations for Ashes of Creation Alpha 2
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Setting Expectations for Ashes of Creation Alpha 2
Are you ready for server meshing?
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Are you ready for server meshing?
An Alpha Tester's Thoughts On the State of Ashes of Creation Alpha 2
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An Alpha Tester's Thoughts On the State of Ashes of Creation Alpha 2
Exposing the Untold Tale of Highwaymen Hills in Ashes of Creation
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Exposing the Untold Tale of Highwaymen Hills in Ashes of Creation
Battle passes are bad for mmorpgs??
Просмотров 1013 месяца назад
Battle passes are bad for mmorpgs??
Are castle sieges being level gated in Ashes of Creation?
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Are castle sieges being level gated in Ashes of Creation?
Did you find a group?
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Did you find a group?
Comparing Notes - The Ashen Forge: Episode 123
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Comparing Notes - The Ashen Forge: Episode 123
The Time Experts - The Ashen Forge: Episode 122
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The Time Experts - The Ashen Forge: Episode 122
Been Caught Stealing - The Ashen Forge: Episode 118
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Been Caught Stealing - The Ashen Forge: Episode 118
Staying Alive - The Ashen Forge: Episode 117 || Ashes of Creation
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Staying Alive - The Ashen Forge: Episode 117 || Ashes of Creation
Goodbye 2023 - The Ashen Forge: Episode 116 || Ashes of Creation
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Goodbye 2023 - The Ashen Forge: Episode 116 || Ashes of Creation
Harvesting Time - The Ashen Forge: Episode 115 | Ashes of Creation
Просмотров 2938 месяцев назад
Harvesting Time - The Ashen Forge: Episode 115 | Ashes of Creation
Grandmaster of Nodes - The Ashen Forge: Episode 114 || Ashes of Creation
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Grandmaster of Nodes - The Ashen Forge: Episode 114 || Ashes of Creation
The Artisanal Way - The Ashen Forge: Episode 113 || Ashes of Creation
Просмотров 2539 месяцев назад
The Artisanal Way - The Ashen Forge: Episode 113 || Ashes of Creation
From Winstead With Love - The Ashen Forge: Episode 112 || Ashes of Creation
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From Winstead With Love - The Ashen Forge: Episode 112 || Ashes of Creation
The Caravan Trail - The Ashen Forge: Episode 111 || An Ashes of Creation Podcast
Просмотров 21710 месяцев назад
The Caravan Trail - The Ashen Forge: Episode 111 || An Ashes of Creation Podcast
Money - The Ashen Forge: Episode 110 || An Ashes of Creation Livestream
Просмотров 20510 месяцев назад
Money - The Ashen Forge: Episode 110 || An Ashes of Creation Livestream
Alpha 2, 2024 - The Ashen Forge Episode: 109 || Ashes of Creation
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Alpha 2, 2024 - The Ashen Forge Episode: 109 || Ashes of Creation
A Whole New World of Events
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A Whole New World of Events
The Ashen Forge: Episode 107 - Prestige Nodewide || Ashes of Creation
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The Ashen Forge: Episode 107 - Prestige Nodewide || Ashes of Creation
The Ashen Forge: Episode 106 - Connections
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The Ashen Forge: Episode 106 - Connections
The Ashen Forge: Episode 105 - Nodes Received
Просмотров 355Год назад
The Ashen Forge: Episode 105 - Nodes Received
The Ashen Forge: Episode 104 - On The Horizon || An Ashes of Creation Podcast
Просмотров 320Год назад
The Ashen Forge: Episode 104 - On The Horizon || An Ashes of Creation Podcast
The Ashen Forge: Episode 103 - More Than a Healing with Guest Vlhadus | An Ashes of Creation Podcast
Просмотров 399Год назад
The Ashen Forge: Episode 103 - More Than a Healing with Guest Vlhadus | An Ashes of Creation Podcast
The Ashen Forge: Episode 102 - Your Risk, My Reward with Guest NiKr | An Ashes of Creation Podcast
Просмотров 467Год назад
The Ashen Forge: Episode 102 - Your Risk, My Reward with Guest NiKr | An Ashes of Creation Podcast

Комментарии

  • @LiamAlt-c3k
    @LiamAlt-c3k День назад

    could have the tank taunt, only allow enemy pvp players affected by the taunt to tarrget the tank for thhe perriod of the taunt?? orr maybe that cld be abused with multiple tanks spamming...

  • @stickyrubb
    @stickyrubb 9 дней назад

    Hey, I wish I could listen, but the audio levels are too different. I'm sorry.

  • @ohmmers
    @ohmmers 11 дней назад

    Venture brothers quote of the Monarch. Chef's kiss

  • @ImTheTexan
    @ImTheTexan 11 дней назад

    I will own the finest most fierce galleon in the game. Even if it costs me sciatica on my right side to make it happen. XD

  • @sliceofheaven3026
    @sliceofheaven3026 12 дней назад

    You dont have to release a game to be a game dev. The word dev implies developer of a game. People are applying for positions in gaming companies with some kind title of game dev in the job description withouth having released any game at all if they are at the start of their careers. That is a somewhat odd way to define game dev. For example googling the phrase gave me the following description: "Video game development (sometimes shortened to gamedev) is the process of creating a video game. It is a multidisciplinary practice, involving programming, design, art, audio, user interface, and writing."

  • @rumyelfrostfire9273
    @rumyelfrostfire9273 12 дней назад

    Followed ashes ever since they opened their website before the kickstarter :D saw the project from a old youtuber that stopped streaming i think his name was proxy or something. I was sold when I heard Steven was a fan of Lineage 2 and Archage and wanted to make a good version of those :D that and no publisher. Even tho i only ever invested in the project during APOC for the skins and now with Alpha 2.

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge 12 дней назад

      Deaths Proxy I think. He did quite a bit with Ashes early on.

  • @Narc
    @Narc 12 дней назад

    gasoline a lil cutie 😳

  • @OsirisTheWeary
    @OsirisTheWeary 17 дней назад

    DYGZ two seconds in is so relatable. “I’m tired, I’m tired, tired” 😂

  • @corentinambroise4777
    @corentinambroise4777 18 дней назад

    love the content as always . Is it only me or dygz need a new/better mic ?

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge 18 дней назад

      Probably. He has used that headphone mic forever. Thanks for watching 🙏

  • @chrislaws4785
    @chrislaws4785 20 дней назад

    PAYING for alpha of ANY game is literally nothing but a SCAM!! Alpha testers USED TO GET PAID to test games, and now game devs have lied and convinced IDIOTS that its the other way around and that they should PAY TO TEST the game. It's developers that cant afford to finish the game that do this SCAM is all it is.

  • @Huliwuly
    @Huliwuly 20 дней назад

    I pay it, not a big deal for me

  • @BRADLIKESPVP
    @BRADLIKESPVP 21 день назад

    Here after the 120 Dollar announcement for a Not-So-Persistent Alpha 2. Everything said in this video, ranging from 50-75 would've been reasonable, what they're asking for now isn't.

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge 20 дней назад

      They have just added $15 in game time and $15 in embers so at least the bottom price comes down to $70. That is more in line with what I thought it would be.

    • @BRADLIKESPVP
      @BRADLIKESPVP 20 дней назад

      @@TheoryForge I think that is a pretty respectable move and brings it more in line with people's expectations.

  • @megamcee
    @megamcee 25 дней назад

    Dygz is in his "absolute menace to AoC's society" phase. Just sitting there trolling everyone and everything

  • @Strangingness
    @Strangingness 26 дней назад

    In Large scale, You could get a group of Tanks and Bards to get Your Fighters across the battlefield a lot easier with all those move speed buffs heals and the Tanks bubbles

  • @Strangingness
    @Strangingness 26 дней назад

    Remember watching a video on what Dwarfs would realistically use in medieval combat. Shields that almost cover their whole body would be obviously advantageous, and also polearms and spears for more reach over the stereotypical axes and hammers. So I'm quite pleased with how they did the Dwarf.

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge 26 дней назад

      I need to watch that video

    • @Strangingness
      @Strangingness 26 дней назад

      @@TheoryForge ruclips.net/video/cDt_tIcca-k/видео.htmlsi=sWwj4UqPCMlbpbri There’s a few videos on it, crossbows would also be good because of their short stocky arms being able to reload it quickly, sucks that Ashes removed crossbows I was really looking forward to making a Dunir with a crossbow lol

  • @AurorJeffrey
    @AurorJeffrey 26 дней назад

    I really enjoy your discussions, thanks for having them!

  • @AurorJeffrey
    @AurorJeffrey 26 дней назад

    Always important not to go critical on cool. Bard has sagas and that’s awesome, should be advocating that other classes get something as cool, not that the sagas should be removed or are unfair.

  • @Azrial
    @Azrial 27 дней назад

    only just seen this tag haha, now am here to algo comment

  • @AurorJeffrey
    @AurorJeffrey 28 дней назад

    A 2-3 year Alpha would create the same problem Crowfall had: its biggest fans had already played for years. Fantmx is right on, sprints, and shrink the Alpha duration, do not provide 24/7 server support and definitely do not tinker with balance until feature are nearly complete. Much more important that they actually prove their central gameplay loops.

  • @AurorJeffrey
    @AurorJeffrey 28 дней назад

    Dygz is right, there are some really big question marks right now. Three years on a race overhaul? Going into A2 with very low expectations.

  • @PawketsArt
    @PawketsArt 28 дней назад

    Lordie, yall were so young.

  • @AurorJeffrey
    @AurorJeffrey 29 дней назад

    Thanks for this video, really helpful to hear your thoughts and excited me for Alpha 2 - see you then!

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge 26 дней назад

      Thanks for watching 🙏

  • @mysticwolf420
    @mysticwolf420 29 дней назад

    Wait i thought animale husbandry was crafting

  • @victorvendetta9409
    @victorvendetta9409 Месяц назад

    Man I'm chomping at the bit for light no fire

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge Месяц назад

      I am so ready for that game

  • @krakhungames
    @krakhungames Месяц назад

    I saw someone in your chat mention UO bard. That was fun, you could provoke monsters to fight each other, or calm them down so they would not attack you, as well as buff allies etc. It worked really well with the tamer skill.

  • @mmo-meditation
    @mmo-meditation Месяц назад

    don´t announce dates. it´s easy as that and i am at a loss why they don´t get that. great show btw as always 👋

  • @GirlsFistinGuys
    @GirlsFistinGuys Месяц назад

    I love DYGZ doomium

  • @johnallen98
    @johnallen98 Месяц назад

    No this is the cost because the game will be free to play after 6 months after release. Paying for alpha is insane especially $200 and up you have to be desperate, no mmo released in past 5 years that’s not free to play.

  • @XreomA
    @XreomA Месяц назад

    if a company wants me to test their game they better pay me, not the other way around. lets not get it twisted 🤪

  • @soratarz7830
    @soratarz7830 Месяц назад

    you tell this to people 10 years ago, they will call you crazy, PAYING for helping them test?

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge Месяц назад

      They would. I would. It is unfortunately the way. Maybe one day we will return to the past.

  • @One-12937
    @One-12937 Месяц назад

    @11:40 you mean like tab target combat 😏

  • @ZyvhurStudios
    @ZyvhurStudios Месяц назад

    Alpha access should never cost more than a full price AAA game ($60)

  • @rumyelfrostfire9273
    @rumyelfrostfire9273 Месяц назад

    Most MMO that allowed beta access were priced over 50E (it did offer usually like early access and some things but it was mostly fluff to make the price seem less spicy ). I'd be amazed if the a2 access is less than 100E . I would only see that as possible if the access is limited in some nature (only 2 weeks, 1month, no access to beta2 or beta1). Also do not forget they said that alpha 2 will persist until release and then will transition to a test server if I remember correctly from past streams (haven't followed as closely anymore so I do not know if this changed).

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge Месяц назад

      Very good points. It has been brought up whether alpha 2 keys will include beta and release. I guess we will find out soonish.

  • @mikomiko993
    @mikomiko993 Месяц назад

    What's freehold?

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge Месяц назад

      A place in the game world to build a house or a farm or more and use it for various things like crafting.

  • @TheToledoTrumpton
    @TheToledoTrumpton Месяц назад

    The will offer Alpha access at whatever it takes to get the testers they need. It will start off below the pre-purchase cost and will drop down in stages, to inspire more testers until they get the number they need. Potentially, all the way down to $0. These test packages will not give access to the beta test. The process will be repeated if they need more testers in Beta 1 and Beta 2. This way they preserve the value of the original test packages, and they justify the reduced value of the new Alpha packages. Supply and Demand will set the price, not what anyone's idea of what subjectively Alpha access should cost.

  • @droog_plays
    @droog_plays Месяц назад

    hot take: they should wait until A2 package buyers have a month or two to test server functionality before opening up more sales. then they could have an accurate idea of how many more players they want before they inevitably cap the A2 key sales. My guess though, is $50.

  • @The_MarTyNi
    @The_MarTyNi Месяц назад

    They should pay you. For being their QA department...

  • @The-Dark-Tower
    @The-Dark-Tower Месяц назад

    Best answer is not get their Alpha packages which are a full scam to milk players only, nothing more, accept the truth or not that depends on you, that's all.

  • @HalIOfFamer
    @HalIOfFamer Месяц назад

    75 is way too much for alpha acces. if they want players. and they clearly do since they are reopening and they said they would not, they cant price it at 75 or hell even 60 unless it comes with significant game time. otherwise its a skip and I suspect a dead game after a year scenario.

  • @CarnaghSidhe
    @CarnaghSidhe Месяц назад

    There is not a chance of my paying for access to an alpha, and I'm a little shocked that so many seem quite so happy to. Charging for alpha is mugging customers before they even get going. It tells me a lot about the company. My view on this might be so firm because I am a retired technical lead. I understand what alpha is. I have also worked in several startups, and I know what their sales guys are doing... Don't get mugged so easily guys. You don't pay for alpha. Ever.

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge Месяц назад

      I completely understand this sentiment. I frequently say I miss the old days of alpha and beta testing, when it was a privilege and exciting to get asked to participate. Sadly, I do not think that will return for the majority of games anytime soon.

    • @CarnaghSidhe
      @CarnaghSidhe Месяц назад

      @@TheoryForge alpha is not the same thing as beta. They are fundamentally different phases of development, with very different goals. In alpha, you don't yet have a product offering. You don't yet have such an offering because **you do not yet know what such an offering might be**. In alpha you are still figuring out what the product will be. This is of particular importance for a start-up because it means that funding to date has come in through small scale private and seed capital. In alpha, it is highly unlikely that you have yet achieved your first major tranche of funding.... and as an aside, they'd not be charging for alpha access if they did have money. You don't ever pay for alpha access because until you leave alpha, you have no idea if this aspirational product will ever be developed as an actual product. In alpha you don't yet know what the product will be, or if it'll go forward. It really might not go forward for a lot of reasons. So, how far away is beta?.. You tell me... What is the storyline like? What is the main questline like? What are the dungeons like? I tell you, after New World (and BDO sales in the West), I don't think they have a snowball's chance of raising funding for another pvp focused open world game that relies on the playerbase creating their own story. Not going to happen... So, what product do you think they'll land on having? We simply don't know yet.

  • @sirbonobo3907
    @sirbonobo3907 Месяц назад

    10€ at most. It should be free but 10-20€ is ok for server costs. for 50€ or more i expect access to all tests after alpha 2 and to include the game without sub at release but i wont buy alpha 2 only access thats a scam. Dude there is a huge difference between EARLY and ALPHA access. if you buy a small ship in SC you are in Alpha but you are in without any more costs. Please research more precisly. Paying for beeing an alpha tester is vastly different to bying and supporting a game in ea but you bought the game and the following patches until completion or patches later on like with No Man´s Sky.

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge Месяц назад

      In Ashes you will, presumably, get access to the beta stages and the full game, but not free of a subscription since this is a subscription based game. I have alpha access to Starcitizen and have for some time: ) Thanks for watching!

  • @daoshen
    @daoshen Месяц назад

    $0 - I will give them money if they need it, but asking for this for unfinished work does not help any of us, not creators nor consumers. Create some tiny (finished!) thing worth paying for or find another career.

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge Месяц назад

      I can completely understand this sentiment. I do miss the old days of testing.

  • @Roarrior
    @Roarrior Месяц назад

    Appreciate the tag!

  • @PeterPanbe
    @PeterPanbe Месяц назад

    If it is from Larian, full price

  • @greg3629
    @greg3629 Месяц назад

    without even watching the video ill answer your question....It should cost nothing! you are doing the game developers a service by testing their product and providing feedback and ways to improve their product. Back in the day people actually got paid for this service...now they just sucker the general public into paying them to play their unfinished product.

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge Месяц назад

      What every RUclips creator wants to hear 😂

  • @veeshan222
    @veeshan222 Месяц назад

    They put themself in a difficult spot, to low can cause backlash from existing pack owners who were under the assumption there last chance to buy in at start of A2 was start of this year and sold cosmetic they didnt realy care about (Most people bought packs for access and dont realy care bout the cosmetic). To high causes people to be like WTF its A2 access. Imo Devs have a couple choices - Open up A2 packs a month after the initial packholder to get in - Sell A2 for like $50 but throw a little extra to current holder like $50 in embers or something (So less chance of backlash from current holders and doesnt cost devs more since virtual items) - Sell it higher at like $100-120 mark (Could be seen as price gouging) - Sell it like the old packs with same kinda cosmetic but there not unique and be bought from cash shop when Game release Thats probably there 4 options i think

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge Месяц назад

      I agree it is a difficult spot. I like you four options also. Well thought out.

  • @R173Y
    @R173Y Месяц назад

    The price will matter to a lot of people for sure, not just because of the cost but also the value proposition of just getting access to play early. The A2 will be Non-NDA so my hope is simply that they start the keys a few weeks before launch and keep it open for a few weeks after launch so everyone has a clear understanding of what they are buying into and maybe help people make the decision of saying yes or no. Btw i fully expect to pay $60 to be able to play until release but i also didnt care about the cosmetics or game time, ive simply always just wanted the key. Please Steven don't put an access limit on the new Keys A2 means A2.

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge Месяц назад

      $60 seems reasonable to me

  • @majesticjester1
    @majesticjester1 Месяц назад

    They should be paying you to test the game. Not the other way around. You working for them to play/test their game and you are paying for the privilege lol. You will not get any of the profits from the sales you dumb ships

  • @bicentrick9989
    @bicentrick9989 Месяц назад

    it should be free...but tbh more than 20$ for just to test the game is a scam

    • @TheoryForge
      @TheoryForge Месяц назад

      I wouldn't mind returning to the old style of testing. Of course then it gets much more restrictive as to who gets to test.