DT is simple music compared to Planet X music. Anyone that is a drummer and knows both bands good can tell you. Yes MP is on of the greatest of all time but he doesnt come CLOSE to Virgil donati. I am not saying anyne sucks, they are all so good, but COMPARED to virgil donati, mike is a joke.
DT is not simple music and MP is very good drummer (one of the greatest of all time) and it is not going to change anything if You try to bash them. 99,9% of other's is laughing to this kind of discussion :)
Be ashamed. Planet X obliterates the material of dream theater. Dream theater is a joke compare to them. Is like saying, (in difficulty) metallica is a joke compared to dream theater... Well Dream theater is a joke ^ 3930 compared to Planet X. lol Plain AND SIMPLE.
roddoliver, have you listened to the Planet X records? The material is MILES beyond anything Dream Theater has ever done technically, with the exception of Dance of Eternity. Stylistically, Planet X has much more in common with jazz/rock fusion (Return to Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Bruford, U.K., etc.) than progressive rock. Check out the current footage from the PSMS tour in Moscow where Portnoy says Derek Sherinian's "Apocalypse 1470" is one of the toughest songs he's PLAYED or HEARD.
First of all, comparing Donati/MacAlpine/Sherinian to Portnoy/Petrucci/Rudess (or whatever) is petty and immature. The fact that Mike Portnoy is currently doing a sold-out tour of Europe and Asia WITH Derek Sherinian, Tony MacAlpine and Billy Sheehan speaks volumes about his respect for their abilities. And all due respect, roddoliver, if you watch footage of Mike Portnoy attempting the Planet X song Apocalypse 1470 B.C., on the current PSMS tour, he "struggles" quite a bit himself!
Technically, they are both astounding, that's not up for debate. I'm sure if Petrucci was given the chance to write/play something more in the vein of Progressive Fusion/Jazz he could, but so far he hasn't had the chance to do so. But based on what I've listened to from both guitarists, MacAlpine has shown himself to be more versatile.
MacAlpine has shown himself to be more musically versatile than Petrucci, and has demonstrated this in his solo albums and Planet X, the latter of which plays almost completely atonal, really complex Progressive Fusion, his playing is absolutely amazing on both Planet X albums but that's not to say Petrucci CAN'T play like that. MacAlpine being a free agent has had more freedom to write whatever he wants whereas Petrucci being commited to DT mainly writes in that style.
@reanimatorhead no, Derek was kicked out of the band because they thought Jordan was a better fit. And no again, Portnoy never said that he is the best. He ALWAYS says there are no bests only favorites. Get your stuff right.
If you are thinking Petrucci is better than Macalpine, then you are an absolute moron.Sherinian left DT because his compositions were too complex for DT to handle.Virgil Donati is one of greatest drummer of our times, even Portnoy says he is the best.DT actually is very over-rated if you ask me.And by the way your last comment was also stupid..... Van Damme could kick Chuck Norris's ass any day in real life....
Macalpine is far better guitarist than petrucci in every way.Sherinian was fired from Dream Theater because he was writing in other direction like you see in Planet X.And If we talk about influence i can say Planet X was influenced by bands like Return to Forever.Bands of the early 1970's.Bands that if you knew beside dream theater you might have a better view on things.Go take some lessons so you can actually have some knowledge to form an educated opinion.
You said many stupid things in this comment but the biggest idiocy was the thing about Donati's struggle.If you watched the whole audition you would have seen that Donati was trying to play portnoy's part and other part he came up with both in the same time.It seems like everyone including portnoy himself has stated that he things Virgil is one of the best drummers alive and is million times better than him and only people with no musical education or experience like yourself talk this stuff.
This is good and all but the whining about who is better is annoying..Personally I hear a little Joe Satriani style from T-Mac..Thats OK by me Satch is on of my favorite players..He and Eric Johnson are the reason I bought G3..Vai is ok but too much of a showoff in my book..He was good in Alcatraz though..Got everything Johnson and Satriani have done..Only Vai I have IS G3..JS and EJ make me want to be a better player..Just saying..hope no one gets butt hurt from my comments..OMG its just YT....
@CKnoxW SORRY I REALLY HAVE TO DISAGREE with you on that one.....Tony is AMAZING, but Steve Vai is from another planet...but your entitled to your opinion....
@CKnoxW I know lots of people won't agree with me but i agree with you about the guitar. Gavin Harrison Is better than Virgil Donati on the skins IMHO. And both Planet x and Porcupine Tree need more promotion!
@sacha9646 lol. you just compared them yourself. why don't we just say that "some people dig Vai more that T-mac and some people dig T-mac more than Vai"
@CKnoxW I try to avoid using the word 'better' when we're talking about 'super musicians', but I could listen to Tony 24/7... Steve gets boring after 5 minutes unless I specifically want to watch him do insanely difficult technical stuff.
@CKnoxW you cant say that vai is better and vice versa... because they both are musicians but they are playing different music styles, it's like in soccer team's two player, one is defender and another is striker, who will be better it depends on situation. sorry for my bad English!
Listen to my music inspired by Virgil's music ruclips.net/p/OLAK5uy_nUSJkvEHJ0Qqcaj8dUe2nRgxM6pKZvAcQ
6 Dream Theather fans don´t like the video !
And as always no cameras giving a single fuck about the bass man... 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
In the first seconds, Tony seems to be playing pure gibberish... But he wasn't.... Pure genius!
Holy crap!
who is the bass player?
His name is Kevin Freeby. Great bass player, but i don't remember to see him in other concert with Planet X.
@BrunoDiaz you are totally right. Virgil is an alien. Period.
Vai is sucker.
DT is simple music compared to Planet X music. Anyone that is a drummer and knows both bands good can tell you. Yes MP is on of the greatest of all time but he doesnt come CLOSE to Virgil donati. I am not saying anyne sucks, they are all so good, but COMPARED to virgil donati, mike is a joke.
DT is not simple music and MP is very good drummer (one of the greatest of all time) and it is not going to change anything if You try to bash them. 99,9% of other's is laughing to this kind of discussion :)
YEAH he said that and HE DIDNT PLAY IT CORRECTLY. He played some tom tom bullshit on the hardest part of the song.
Be ashamed. Planet X obliterates the material of dream theater. Dream theater is a joke compare to them. Is like saying, (in difficulty) metallica is a joke compared to dream theater... Well Dream theater is a joke ^ 3930 compared to Planet X. lol Plain AND SIMPLE.
roddoliver, have you listened to the Planet X records? The material is MILES beyond anything Dream Theater has ever done technically, with the exception of Dance of Eternity. Stylistically, Planet X has much more in common with jazz/rock fusion (Return to Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra, Bruford, U.K., etc.) than progressive rock. Check out the current footage from the PSMS tour in Moscow where Portnoy says Derek Sherinian's "Apocalypse 1470" is one of the toughest songs he's PLAYED or HEARD.
First of all, comparing Donati/MacAlpine/Sherinian to Portnoy/Petrucci/Rudess (or whatever) is petty and immature. The fact that Mike Portnoy is currently doing a sold-out tour of Europe and Asia WITH Derek Sherinian, Tony MacAlpine and Billy Sheehan speaks volumes about his respect for their abilities. And all due respect, roddoliver, if you watch footage of Mike Portnoy attempting the Planet X song Apocalypse 1470 B.C., on the current PSMS tour, he "struggles" quite a bit himself!
If you are serious when you say that Virgil struggled to play Portnoy's parts..then...I don't know what to say.
Technically, they are both astounding, that's not up for debate. I'm sure if Petrucci was given the chance to write/play something more in the vein of Progressive Fusion/Jazz he could, but so far he hasn't had the chance to do so. But based on what I've listened to from both guitarists, MacAlpine has shown himself to be more versatile.
MacAlpine has shown himself to be more musically versatile than Petrucci, and has demonstrated this in his solo albums and Planet X, the latter of which plays almost completely atonal, really complex Progressive Fusion, his playing is absolutely amazing on both Planet X albums but that's not to say Petrucci CAN'T play like that. MacAlpine being a free agent has had more freedom to write whatever he wants whereas Petrucci being commited to DT mainly writes in that style.
@reanimatorhead no, Derek was kicked out of the band because they thought Jordan was a better fit. And no again, Portnoy never said that he is the best. He ALWAYS says there are no bests only favorites. Get your stuff right.
If you are thinking Petrucci is better than Macalpine, then you are an absolute moron.Sherinian left DT because his compositions were too complex for DT to handle.Virgil Donati is one of greatest drummer of our times, even Portnoy says he is the best.DT actually is very over-rated if you ask me.And by the way your last comment was also stupid..... Van Damme could kick Chuck Norris's ass any day in real life....
I didn't know Planet X had gigs so many centuries ago :D
Macalpine is far better guitarist than petrucci in every way.Sherinian was fired from Dream Theater because he was writing in other direction like you see in Planet X.And If we talk about influence i can say Planet X was influenced by bands like Return to Forever.Bands of the early 1970's.Bands that if you knew beside dream theater you might have a better view on things.Go take some lessons so you can actually have some knowledge to form an educated opinion.
You said many stupid things in this comment but the biggest idiocy was the thing about Donati's struggle.If you watched the whole audition you would have seen that Donati was trying to play portnoy's part and other part he came up with both in the same time.It seems like everyone including portnoy himself has stated that he things Virgil is one of the best drummers alive and is million times better than him and only people with no musical education or experience like yourself talk this stuff.
reminds me of a cross between Dream Theater and King Crimson... awesome!
Dream Theater is the britney spears of progressive rock.Planet X is the Chuck Norris.
Great Song :-O
;-)
Dose any one know what kind of guitar is tony using on this video what make and model?
@awaken77 he was talking about a live concert DVD
@awaken77 yes, on both a studio album and a live album
@antibulletdodger101 does it exist on studio albums?
wish this song existed in better quality, it doesnt
This is good and all but the whining about who is better is annoying..Personally I hear a little Joe Satriani style from T-Mac..Thats OK by me Satch is on of my favorite players..He and Eric Johnson are the reason I bought G3..Vai is ok but too much of a showoff in my book..He was good in Alcatraz though..Got everything Johnson and Satriani have done..Only Vai I have IS G3..JS and EJ make me want to be a better player..Just saying..hope no one gets butt hurt from my comments..OMG its just YT....
@CKnoxW comparisons are for ignorants
@CKnoxW tahts because Steve Vai is from another planet And Tony MacAlpine is from another dimension juts like buckethead
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@CKnoxW but he hasn't the stage presence that Vai has, it's fact! But i agree u, technically speaking
@LPmarkac wordd
Planet X != Dream Theater
@CKnoxW SORRY I REALLY HAVE TO DISAGREE with you on that one.....Tony is AMAZING, but Steve Vai is from another planet...but your entitled to your opinion....
@Romametal666 Planet X = World Class band Dream Theater=0
Planet X= Dream theater lml
faster than the original. it seems it IS possible then.
@CKnoxW I know lots of people won't agree with me but i agree with you about the guitar. Gavin Harrison Is better than Virgil Donati on the skins IMHO. And both Planet x and Porcupine Tree need more promotion!
@CKnoxW Vai is more for kicks and entertainment where as MacAlpine is just overall incredible at guitar, as good on piano as well which is scary
@sacha9646 lol. you just compared them yourself. why don't we just say that "some people dig Vai more that T-mac and some people dig T-mac more than Vai"
@CKnoxW I try to avoid using the word 'better' when we're talking about 'super musicians', but I could listen to Tony 24/7... Steve gets boring after 5 minutes unless I specifically want to watch him do insanely difficult technical stuff.
@CKnoxW You could be right or wrong theres no really a way to measure if someones is better or dont, I like both
@CKnoxW How could anyone dislike that? :)
@CKnoxW you cant say that vai is better and vice versa... because they both are musicians but they are playing different music styles, it's like in soccer team's two player, one is defender and another is striker, who will be better it depends on situation. sorry for my bad English!
Beautiful Insanity!!! Planet X Rules ! \m/