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Mcbeth, Wysocki, Mcmahon, Kajiyama slow motion disc golf drives - Video 2
Lead card slow motion drives from the final day of the PDGA 2017 Aussie Open
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Mcbeth, Wysocki, Mcmahon, Kajiyama slow motion disc golf drives - Video 1
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Lead card slow motion drives from the final day of the PDGA 2017 Aussie Open.
Avery Jenkins & Eagle Mcmahon disc golf driving clinic
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Avery Jenkins & Eagle Mcmahon running a pro clinic in Perth ahead of the PDGA 2017 Aussie Open
Redbull RB7 driven by Daniel Ricciardo Perth WA
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Daniel Ricciardo drives the Redbull racing RB7 through Perth city to promote the Perth Street Fest.
As I work on my own form, this is very helpful to see pros doing it and get an idea of ways I can change my form. Thanks! This is awesome
If you notice the reach back isnt really a reach back at all the disc stays there and they move around it cool video
Its like they're all aiming with their right hip/butt cheek. That's a data point for sure.
"The main key to huge distance, is to just get jiggy with it" - Bagger Vance
Some training videos talk about rotating the hips before the arm pulls through and others say you shouldn't do that. Watching these pros in slo-mo, it looks like a couple do start rotating hips first and a couple do not. The variation is slight, but I can see it in this video. Now I don't know what to think.... just need to hit the field and see what works best for me I guess.
After 6 years, this is probably still the single best video for form work. The difference in the 4 players' individual styles and yet, they're all fundamentally the same. And these guys are really good at the fundamentals.
heck yeah. i've watched it a good 50 times. kind of surprised it's only a half million views....
You're a disgrace, not just to disc golf. Who's underwear is that hanging off the door handle!?? Jeezus christ dude.
Paul McBeth just months before he turned pro and went on to win 6 world titles.
anyone know if they're throwing a line going straight, right or left?
Throwing straight to fade late right. Big OB area on the right. Search for the Australian open for that year full telecast :)
Wow!
If we're told not to 'squish the bug' and rotate the back knee into the shot to shift the weight to the front foot quicker.. How are they achieving the position at 0:43 where the back leg is alomst at 90 degrees while in the power pocket? Looking at my own form my legs are still in a triangle kind of A shape at this point in the throw 🤔
Awesome.
I throw standstills. The end of their running wind-up to the pitch is what I'm trying to nail.
Paul has the best form by far.
Incorrect
Wow we now McBeth is insanely good but I can see where the power difference between McMahon and McBeth is! Just from this short clip. Thank you :)
the few frames where the arm is basically stationary in space are a sight to behold
True, but from the player's perspective, they're moving that hand back at the same speed as their body is moving forward.
@@truthstands4ever Are they? It looks to me that once they're coming out of the x step, the disc is where it's going to stay until the front foot lands. They're not moving the hand back. What's keeping the disc there is the rotation of the shoulders as their body moves forward. Their arm straightens out so that makes it appear like they're moving their hand back.
I'd love to see myself in slow mo
It's easy, get a tripod with a phone mount. Record your drive, then play it back in slow motion. I'm planning to do this to work on my own form.
I really need to video my crappy form in slow mo so I can see why I only throw half as far as these guys. I would be happy just to be able to throw 375' consistently.
So cool to watch in slow Mo, I shoot very similar to McBeth because I’m 5’9 and like to hop on my X step and put my front foot really far out... almost as good as mine 😅
Full shots can be seen here: ruclips.net/video/-7axmfTxhbs/видео.html Its a 600 foot hole with a decent size gap off the tee. Shot seems to be: Wysocki - straight to fade Kajiyama - turnover flex shot McMahon - turnover flex shot McBeth - slightly more anhyzer release to flex
Good catch! Great to see all the different up shots, and Eagle still clutch the birdie.
Love these slow-mo’s
foot fault!!!
Oh my goodness, Eagle's throw at 1:06! His arm stayed in the exact same spot for like 20 frames of film before being whipped through, that was beautiful
thank you for your insightful comment im learning so much
Ricky and Eagle both. The arm from elbow to disc is in the exact same spot as their body continues forward. Pretty amazing to see
So when they're on the back leg coming out of the X step, they coil their hips. You can see they're almost facing backwards, then they really just start to 'fall' or 'drift' forwards as it's really hard to maintain this coil and 'step' forward... as you fall you're either thinking of extending your arm as you fall, or thinking of leaving the arm behind as you fall. As soon as your front toe touches the ground, it's time to go. Gannon was talking about how instead of doing a whole practice swing, he just practices this bouncing motion to time his hit.
I was just about to point this out. Ricky and Eagle are the best examples but they all did it to an extent. It really shows how they’re building up to a release of energy.
So satisfying to watch the reach back on the first one when his disc just stays still
I've watched ricky's throw probably hundreds of times at this point. The more times i watch the more i realize it all comes down to lower body. I can throw 400' on a good day and my footwork is definitely way off.
Wow look how the Eagles hand suddenly stops and stays long time steady, looks great at slowed to 0,25 :D
McBeth… WTF…. He practically lunges backwards into his plant foot. And from the end of his reachback to his release looks like ~10ft of distance. What an animal….
Paul put some sauce on that, wooo
Anyone else see Paul defy gravity at the end? 😂😂😂
DIsc Golf Teachers: You should have no energy left after the brace. If you are falling forward, you are not bracing properly. Paul McBeth: 1:44
For normal controlled power shots with slower run ups, that holds true, but when players go for max distance and increase the speed of their run ups then yes their momentum can carry them past their plant leg. Worth noting though, most Paul's center of gravity still continues to stay behind his plant leg, even after the pivot and little hop motion, which allows him to step down with trailing foot pretty softly at the end. The players that are losing power due to poor bracing will have their whole center of gravity go past their plant leg and have to forcefully catch their body weight with their trailing foot or they will literally fall forward to the ground.
His front foot slips like crazy on the tee when he planted it. I bet that was a big part of it
If someone were to make a form video on RUclips and wanted to use a clip from this video to diagnose Macbeth’s form...would you be cool with that
ruclips.net/video/nB_1Cmz5NZk/видео.html this guy helped my drives a lot
Eagle appears to have a little bit of a dip on his approach. The others are as level as you can possibly get. I never paid much attention to this before now....
I SWEAR that looking at Eagle's throw here at .25x speed is altered (even though I know it isn't)! The disc literally DOES NOT MOVE as he comes out of the x-step and plants his foot, almost like his arm CAN'T move from that spot (other than to extend) and then just POWERS through that throw! WOW!!
nice putts man, don't hit the cat
best instructional disc golf video I've seen, Thanks!
Where can I see the rest of the shot? Can't tell if they are bombing, throwing low and flat, anhyzer, non of that lol. It would be helpful to see the hole layout and the gap they are going for.
You don't need any of that. You can mostly tell from just looking at their form assuming they nailed their shot, which you can be sure they did.
Kajiyama has an awesome leg kick. Reminds me of a pitcher throwing a baseball. The follow through is the hardest part for me, thanks for posting this.
Check out the balance on Kajiyama! Eagle has near perfect form here, sending all his energy into the shot. Paul leaves the most energy on the table, and Ricky only leaves a little. You can see the core wind up so much better in slow motion!
Could so watch slo mo drives all day lol
John, you nailed it. This is a great video! MORE PLEASE!!
Push off rear foot?
It's surprising how far apart their feet are. All of them get that lead foot way out front, which seems to give them a better angle to stop their momentum. A lot of teachers say to keep your feet shoulder width, but these guys definitely are not.
yes that's why. To aplly a force parallel to the ground you want to angle yourself as much as possible without slipping. Like if you were to push something heavy. The more of your forward motion (momentum) you can stop, the faster you will rotate
Teachers say that because it is appropriate for the power of a student. The more momentum you build up, the more leverage you need to transfer it to the disc. Doing such a wide step for a 300' shot would be counterproductive.
I couldn’t properly brace without trying to take a wide last step. Just finally started getting it this week.
This reminds me of a HowToBasic video. I laughed a little too much 😂
hahaha i forgot this videos was public!
Just now saw this video. I take literal steps in my X step, which I think hurts me. I am a bigger guy, 6'4, like Eagle but not quite as lanky. I am going to try and use Ricky/Paul's mini crow hop in the middle of the X step and see how it works for me. Watching videos of myself, I see that I am using mainly just my arms to drive, with little hip and leg usage.
scott stokely says on his channel it is appropriate for taller players to take actual steps rather than a hop
@@troggleous yeah. I've actually reworked my form and took it out. No more crow hopping for me.
Hmmm. I just noticed something that Mcbeth and Wysocki do but Mcmahon and Kajiyama don't do.
well how about you share this observation
@@Postermaestro Ok. Mcbeth and Wysocki use their NON-throwing arm to generate force in rotating the torso upon initiating the forward movement after the peak of the reachback. Mcbeth does it more, followed by Wysocki, and now that I look again, Mcmahon does a little bit of it too. Timestamps: 0:09 for Wysocki. 1:37 for Mcbeth. Long after first seeing this vid, I saw a vid from Ezra that then clearly explains this concept. In Ezra's video, he explains how his left arm does a 2 step movement. First forward (towards the target), to generate speed, then rearward (away from the target), to generate a reactive FORCE towards the target. Timing is essential, because if you accelerate the left arm too late, when the torso has already started rotating forward, the result would be a terrible REARWARD force, robbing you of a lot of initial disc speed.
@@suserman7775 really good observation, thx for taking the time to point it out! My explanation for it is that when you pump you left arm clockwise and in you do 2 things: #1 decrease your moment of inertia which means your torso will rotate faster (think ice skater tucking arms). #2 rotate your torso. However if you rotate your torso your hips will rotate the other way (newton's 3rd law). You can try it yourself by standing with your feet forward, jump and punch/tuck your arm like they do, and watch how your feet land (pointing to the left if you punch with your left arm). In the actual throw you punch when the hip has transferred (or is transferring?) most of its momentum to the torso. Earlier and you make the hips rotate slower and you lose the advantage that the lag between hips and shoulders provides. Moving you arm in the opposite direction (counterclockwise) the opposite happens, so your torso rotates slower and your right arm rotates faster. Always about that timing
S Userman win tournaments?
This is a massive misinterpretation of what you're seeing. The left arm is simply following the true source of power: the shoulders and hips. That's it. The rotation you get opening the hips up, in time with the shoulders, and then rotating is where the main power comes from in a throw, just like batting, pitching, tennis, etc.
I thought McBeth was about to wipe tf out😂
They're all great to watch and truly inspire to try and make my throw better, but specifically the line Mcbeth draws with the disc is just bonkers good. Not being a lanky monster he's getting massive distance/accuracy with just a beautiful line!
Very true! Same for the other small guy (I cannot remember his name...).
I like how despite the nuances in their form the fundamentals are still the same between all of them.