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I think its a great model for the year, Lima had very good tooling for the age, thank you for you info. have a good evening

Hi What I can see this was tooled in 2006 so maybe be 2006-2007 release, the model I have, from the date code on the box is 27 June 2011, hope this helps

@@PaulsRailwayModels-vz9oz thanks for that paul

Its Not just me, then I was thinking it was my bad luck, its a shame as it a lovely model and runs so well, I did send back for a refund and will buy a different model, if you return for a replacemant , let me know if you have no missing parts on the replacement, as I may order a new one in the future again.

Hi The tooling is 2015, and its brand new from the retailer.

They are still around, brand new from retailers. Bought one last year from DC Kits, £65

Hi Paul, yes, I will send back, and will let them know. It’s a pity because it was a lovely model, just needs a bit better quality control, The problem is I really like Hornby, if they wish to continue, and keep the buyers happy, I wish they would improve, I will be getting a new model from them again in the future as I would like a Sentinel shunter for the dock layout.

I did look at this one as well, just not able to afford two at the time, thank you for watching and enjoy your model, I will be getting this one on a layout in the future, with some BR MK 2 coaches.

I had planned on getting a rolling road , and will be making a full layout to run the models on once I have the time money to build.

Hi Craig, thank you for watching. I enjoy the building the layouts, I will be building a full layout soon, once I get back into my house, it’s in the hands of the builders at the moment for the last year. I will then start a layout I will keep to run some of the locos I have. Yes, I do always sell the layouts, normally for cost if I can get it, but most of the time a little loss. I don't have the space to keep them. I put them on eBay and normally sell within 24hours.

Thank you, I Hope you will enjoy, all the best Paul

Hi, Great models your company make this was my first time building this, and was easy to build. I made a couple of mistakes but that’s was my fault, once build the model looks geaat, Thank you for watching,

Thank you, I am now thinking about my next project

I would definitely recommend one

Thank you, I am please with it, didn't want to over detail the layout, i think this is just enough I will be having a look at the Jinty soon, with a clean and a run in, hopefully will get it to running how i would like it.

Hi yes this the original box and associated paperwork, I have a couple of other hornby models from this age, and they have the same box and inner sleeve, I don't like this type of inner sleeve. The newer design is much better. Thank you for taking time to watch. all the best

I did forget models had this problem, Not had one myself before, thank you for the info and watching.

Tbf to Hornby, when I acquired a couple of T9s and the mazak had destroyed the housing i contacted their services and they sent a replacement. It is slightly poor on manufacturers not to make replacement parts for those that are known issues... My bunch of class 31s would have been easier to save with a new chassis 😂​@@PaulsRailwayModels-vz9oz

I am sending back for a refund, I think hornby had great loco's in the past, never a fan of the tender driven, but I do have one from 1978 and this worked as it should 40 years later, Thank you for watching and glad you enjoyed.

​@@PaulsRailwayModels-vz9ozhow do you intend on sending back? Do you mean to Hornby? Or to whoever you bought it from ? If it was an eBay you will struggle. I've had loads sell on mazak locos and just claim ignorance after.

Hi Yes I did get my money back, the eBay seller sent a full refund. I will buy something else I am going to put towards a Bachmann Loco.

@@PaulsRailwayModels-vz9oz ah amazing. That was good of them to do that. I've not been as lucky on a couple of sellers but was fun to learn to fix them with bicarb and super glue 😂

@@_RandomPea Sorry you wasn't as lucky , if I get a chance to repair one I will have a look at the Bicarb and super glue, thank you for the tip

Thank you,

Thank you for the tip, i will have a look for the DCC concepts track rubber, and thank you for watching, I was thinking do I change the fiddle yard before its too late, to electro frog points and only have two points. I am only thinking about this as I do only want 0-6-0 running on this layout

@@PaulsRailwayModels-vz9oz Hi Paul, Electrofrog medium radius will really help but ideally we need a decoder with a small stay alive even for 2-3 seconds would be ideal for these issues we all have.

@@ngaugefouroaksstreetstatio6932 I have decided to change the points on the fiddle yard, I will have to do an update on this once I have finished it again. I did buy some 6 pin ZEN Decoders with Stay alive but still too big to fit in the N gauge, I will have to look around for a smaller stay alive.

Thank you for watching

@@PaulsRailwayModels-vz9oz no problem, I really enjoyed it :D

I did sell all my old lima models, a long time back, but after buying this class 37. I forgot how good the tooling was and how good Lima made the bodies, I have got on order a couple of Class 47's as well now. and I will look at upgrading the motor on one of those to compare the differance.

I don't know all the history on the class 50's. I do think Dapol did a great job with this model. One of the things which made me buy this model. I was at the Great Central Railway and they have a class 50 Royal Oak which was running that day.

I will get all the track point blades cleaned better, as I need this to run faultless, thank you for the tips I have IPA on order now. thank you for watching all the best Paul

Hi thank you for watching, and glad you like the reviews, I am from the East Midlands, Nottingham,.

Yes I agree , this one is loud when running fast, I have put grease on the gears, and oiled the bearings but still Noisy, at high speed 50% and above.

Thats all part of their charm, like hi end performance cars all have a their own distinct sound that the engineering produces. the way to make them quieter is to run them to death, after about 5-10 years they do start to lose their whine. Even the 67 with its 4 axle drive / can motor has a very distinct sound compared to the new stuff .

Hi thank you for watching, and I love the detail of this model. I do watch Sams Trains not all videos just the ones which interest me, I have always tested Loco's for slow crawls, for over 20 years as I need them to work on small layouts, All the best have a great evening.

I will have a look at using the Centre axle, as a pickup as this was always a problem, with lima the lack of pickups, a little better on the latter models, thank you for the tip, I bet the two motor one pulls well. all the best, Paul

I always use mu Lima class 20s in tandem (with disc indicators showing "through freight") and as you say, they can pull just about anything! Just need to keep those wheels clean...

Thank you for watching, the Leawood pump house was in Steam that day also, and lovely walk along the canal.

@@PaulsRailwayModels-vz9oz No Probs 😊🚂🚂🚂

I will get this running a lot more , once I start work on the OO gauge layout, planned next.

You are spot on. All my Lima locos just are great runners, reliable and require little maintenance. They are really easy to maintain with no faffing on with access and electronics. They look good despite the lack of detail. They were the mainstay of many exhibition layouts.

@@PaulsRailwayModels-vz9oz sounds like it needs oil on the motor bearings, but once thats done it'll go quietly for a year!

I did get this one from a Collector who didn't run it very much, just sat in its box most of the time, He had lots of lima for sale but I just can't afford to buy them all. all the best Paul

This is what I do now. Whilst I have a couple of Accurascale, Bachmann and an ancient Hornby R751, the rest are Lima's, in order to prodi e colour and variety at a relatively low cost. Mind you, some of these locos are now on sale for £70ea. Crazy!

I agree the lima tooling was excellent, not just on this model. and much better than Hornby at the time, this is why Hornby use the old Lima tooling on the rail road models now, Hornby have a better driving bogie now for Railroad, and improved the pickups. The motor and pickups was always a problem on the Lima models. I forgot about Vitrains what did happen to them. as they did have a excellent drive train.

The motors are superb bits of engineering , they will last a lifetime. The materials used in their construction means they will never wear away , all the cogs, housing are the same material. Just superbly designed & engineered gear , been using these models for nearly 50 years , never had to chuck one away yet. VI trains (ex Lima employees did a good a job in modernising them, stupidly Hornby when they bought Lima only bought up what was in production & not what was in development & so the new 37/47 chassis that Lima where working on stayed in Italy & the new company took it from there) Worst days work ever when Hornby bought up the range & started retooling the chassis with those awful motors, cheap grade metal wheels & took all the weight out. What goes in their heads at Margate fair boggles the mind.

This is how it came out of the box; all models are manufactured to run on 2nd radius curves. Peco setrack is 2rd radius so a good test. Most people have to use 2nd radius, due to size of rooms and layout constraints. all the other models I have work perfectly on my test track. I will be looking into why this one doesn't run over 2nd radius and trying to fix the problem in the future. as I would like to run this on the new layout once I start building it.

@@PaulsRailwayModels-vz9oz Those are pretty high quality models. Although it 'says' it will run on R2, I personally don't have any expectation that it will which is why I use Peco large radius turnouts and min 4-5ft radius curves. No problems with them. You might use R2 but it is not correct to assume that *most* people use R2!

At the moment I don't have a full layout, which is a problem as I would like to get these running properly, and enjoy the models I have.

Hi Yes as its a well detailed loco, and does look good, I will be giving it a good service, and will add DCC with stay alive. just need to fix the derailing problem first, just wish they hadn't fitted traction tyres, as well. The loco doesn't need them.

@@PaulsRailwayModels-vz9oz check mine out it is the tender driven one, a real classic🌟👌👀🚂

Hi Thank you for watching , The layout is 80cm x 33cm x 26cm LWH and with the fiddle yard its 141cm L

@@PaulsRailwayModels-vz9oz thanks for that. Cheers.

Yes it looks great, just need to get it to run better, and I can use on the new layout properly , thank you for watching.

also I didn't notice until later on , some of the cab glazing fell out as well, I found it on the table later.

If this is a brand new, but old stock loco that you've had for a while, then it does need running in. But before you do it, please re-lubricate the moving parts. The factory lube may have dried up over time, causing hesitant running. Loose parts are a quality control issue, but it's probably too late to complain now! Oh, and please read the instructions first.

just working on a couple more buildings to finish the layout,, thank you for watching. all the best

Hi Colin, yes N gauge is a lot harder, I do mix it up with an N gauge layout now and again, its amazing what you can get in the small space with N gauge.

Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed.

I sometimes get through two backscenes before I am happy, this time just one and 24 hours later still no creases and wrinkles, this glue is amazing , I should have used in the past.

Thank you, this was the first time using this glue, only got the glue in the post 2 hours before I made the video, on Friday very happy with the results. I recommend this product when you do your backscene.

I must say this is a great model, I have a few class 20's this is the only one with sound i have. I don't have the latest tooled models to compare, but I think the class 20's from Bachmann look great,run great and match the real thing well.

If you get in touch with Bachmann they will send you a sheet of sound functions for free.

This is From amazon, a little bit to thick for N gauge Better for OO gauge, but works ok. its decription on Amaxon is Florist Wire Silver 22 Gauge Flexible , Binding Wire Garden Floral Wire

yes very small, and well made, thank you for watching