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I'm more confused now

This isnt just a game. This is another world!

You mentioned that you gain more than you lose in red ranks. I thought you gain the same as you lose? I’m in red now and I was thinking that I gain 400 points per win and lose 400 points per loss.

I'm proud that yoshi got 192 moves and i can do them all. (I'm not good at the game I'm just dedicated to yoshimitsu)

I’m not a fighting game player, I’m a Tekken player. I know for many Tekken 8 can be incredibly frustrating, but the level of difficulty is what has me hooked forever. The skill ceiling is seemingly endless. The game’s presentation is beautiful. Music, sound, the character designs, movement.

I’d invite you to watch the main man swe video analysis of why T8 is not a 50/50 game. It’s nonsense to say that and the only reason we as a community have to suffer such a falsehood is because when Arslan Ash looses he lashes out at the game in a negative way and then the community has to suffer is powerful voice. Arslan is the T7 goat, but he doesn’t understand the competition in T8 is even greater than what T7 had.

Hey The Gian, I have a suggestion. Would you be willing to do a video (or series of videos) of what are the 10 tekken moves of each character and why? I think it could be a really interesting and engaging series of videos

First time tekken player. I love the 50/50. Some times it's a pain in the ass but it's fun. Tekken 7 looked trash in comparison. This game is a proper game except for the in balances of options for every character.

4200 moves, start up frames, special properties, remember the range, remember how much time you have on a whiff, which side the moves track, from which distance they track, the extentions, whats duckable,... just of the top of my head😅

Thats just raw numbers on skills but that doesnt make up for the real difficulty of tekken such as changes over each new series introducing new systems, or how the spacing/kbd changed, what moves are actually useful for your character, frame data, knowledge checks based on useful or obscure moves, character usage, advance mental frames, fucking mind games, mental damage to opponent ,etc. I think you should have cover those points and this video would have being even better but thanks talking about tekken .

Character knowledge is king on Tekken. I was great from T2 to T5. I didn't play TTT2, T6, or T7 too much... so T8 has been a bit of a reset for me. I've managed to Tekken God with Steve, tho

You should put up a graph of which characters use the most moves online

Thats not even counting the moves that are a combination, like kazuyas 112 could technically counted as 3 seperate moves

Dude, stop hating. VF5 is a 16 year old game and any Tekken since then still havn't reached VF5's standards. Tekken 8 getting good feedback? Bro where have you been the last 10 months? Stop being delusional. VF6 is coming, you little Tekken fanboy...you better hide.

"Why TEKKEN 8 is the Hardest Fighting game" .... Virtua Fighter 5 has entered chat.

😂 that's hilarious, try Virtua Fighter 5 and see what happens 😊

Tekken is impossible to master, but it's incredible at how you can learn the first 70 percent of knowledge just from standard play. The next 20 percent requires dedication and research. The rest is obtained through hundreds of hours of meaningful practice, and even then you can't learn everything. Legacy knowledge and hidden information is a problem, but I find that if you are serious about tekken, and watch good guides, you'll see it mentioned. But for most people, learning your 13f, 14f punishes, and the enemies -14f moves will be enough to get you out of any plateau. If you know how to consistently do 5-8 percent of their health off of every interaction, combined with one meaningful punishment, this is "good enough " play to get you out of blue ranks. While there are a million moves and each move has different properties, I found that I won significantly more when I reduced my thinking to the simplest form in order to avoid hesitation. Just my ramblings

That combinatory number you got (5.5e72) is almost as big as the estimate of the number of atoms in the universe. That is crazy man, really put thinks into perspective. I really enjoyed this analysis, as always, excellent video!

Yea but match! its heat dash heat smash, only the top 10 moves of the character! 5050 and rage art!!! GGS

As Hwo Main, I cna tell that Hwoa's 158 moves are kinda basis of which he combines his flowcharts and connects one move into another.

"Why TEKKEN 8 is the Hardest Fighting game " literally t7 in the background:

You need to also add to the Tally of moves all the unfinished strings - so the list gets even bigger 😂 As a Zafina Main, I can tell you she has had a load of Moves & Transitions from Tekken 7 Deleted in Tekken 8. But like Bryan she is a Character that uses Mental Frame advantage to Mind Game whether She will finish a String or Not. So for a 3 hit string the opponent has to remember the frames for each hit .... AND what transition options she has from each stage of the string. So what is listed as just One move is in reality a lot more stuff for the Zafina player and the opponent to remember. For example her d2,4,3 string, listed as ONLY one move has all the below options and properties to know about not just one set of data. d2 [Launch on Block - Floor Break] CH d2 [Knock Down - Garanteed b3] d2,4 [Goes into MNT - Launch on Block] CH (d2),4 [Saftey Goes into MNT] d2,4D [Goes into TRT - Float iWS Launch on Block] CH (d2),4D [Goes into TRT - Float Launch - But with Heat TRTdf1 will power through the punish] d2,4,3 [Combo Laucher on last Hit - Even if the others Whiff - Minus 13 on Block - Minus 12 if the first 2 Hits Hit and only the last hit is blocked] CH (d2),4,3 [Combo Launcher] CH (d2,4),3 [Combo Launcher]

Tekken tag tournament 2 is harder

agree. greetings gian, i have also recently joined... the..content makers. i have also heard statements from literally 2D-pro players. that they are not touching tekken, because it is .. too much, too much knowledge too even play MOST matchups correctly and not get Know-Checked. i ... maybe i should try to find the tweets again, it was years ago. literally 2D evo top 8 players, said that about tekken. (GOOD VIDEO) thank you.

The music was louder then your voice so it was very hard to understand you

Sounds awfully like a video about my comment on one of your recent videos on me lacking legacy move knowledge 😂 Still, love the info you gave out!

No update graphics or Sound will be made cause it cost money and Vf5 isn't supposed to be the Real deal. It just a way for Sega to test New things with the gameplay (New balance/moves) and the Roll back for future VF 6. See this like Like the equivalent of sf2hd remix before sf4 situation. Goh inspired Dragunov design ;).

I'm definitely going to buy it and play it, we need 3D fighters competition and bamco is abusing their monopolistic position. If buying this helps bring new games to compete, I'm all in.

Wow, that looks so crappy

They are just re-releasing the same shit, to fund a new project lmao, they did the same thing in 2021.

hope they add some new characters and stages too if we are going too pay for this. But i have a feeling they might not tho.😭

Gian... i have started a complete clownshow on YT... and i basically give shoutouts to some of you amazing you tubers in my videos (the one with Enter the Autism in the thumbnail in particular) soo i dont know where this thing leads, but it i am pretty insane. so if you do not want to be associated with it , i will cut your YT logo out and i will not mention you in the future aswell. I just wanted to let you know personally because... i am in exterminatus mode now and i respect you a lot, greetings from germany.

getting half a heat bar per round and being able to stack a full bar if you save it for next round is a better approach to limiting heat. starting every round at half and filling it up with pressure before activating it could also work. just removing it after X rounds has the problem of matches lasting anywhere from 3 to 5 rounds. which means the game's defining mechanic wouldn't be present half the time or more.

Would you say it's a good goal to get a character to fujin (close to above average) before swapping out to learn others?

Your takes are solid as always.. hoping Chadthe3rd never appears on my subscribed page again tho. Dude is whack.😅

not sure if just me , but i only have sound on the left side.

Listened to the whole podcast the other night. Liked your take on heat being a limited resource. The 2 round limit would make for a lot of mind games.

Eww no. Heat is such a core mechanism that to rip it out would seriously change the meta. I'm against that.

I would make some other changes: 1. Heat could be a once per round thing, if we only have access to heat burst as either a "get off me" tool or a once per round combo extender with extra scaling (making combos with heat burst a little weaker) 2. Add a heat bar that could be built up by doing different things, so when you use heat burst, you get it for however long you managed to fill the bar. It should persist between rounds. 3. Heat smash should be usable when the bar is full (with a different input that burst) and consume the entire bar 4. Heat dash could have a fixed cost of the heat bar, meaning that it has a limited windows to be used and can be played around. 5. Heat burst should be -1 on block or 0 on hit, making it a neutral reset, and less of a turn stealing mechanic. 6. Heat smash should be less rewarding on block, and some should be changed to be high, to allow for better counterplay. So we can have low smashes -12, mids -4 and highs +1 (just random values, can be stronger or weaker after testing), making heat smashes less oppressive 7. Make rage arts more unsafe on block (maybe -18 or even -20) and more linear, so they can be potentially sidestepped. I think these would make the game significantly better, while keeping heat an essential and strong mechanic, while being less restricted by it

Nice podcast, can't wait to make one together <3

Maybe this season is the season of stance rushdown characters, and next season will be characters more like shaheen or leo. Non stance rushdown characters

Need to be able to powercrush heatsmash. I see it coming from a mile away and cant do nothing about it

I was just recently wondering if there were anymore Tekken based podcasts after listening to Heatspeak, happy to see a new one pop up!

I think the inflated numbers at the end of 7 were def from cheaters, pluggers and save scummers. Tk7 ranked was much harder to climb but easier to cheat the system. I have 23 characters in tekken god for tk8 and it’s hard for me to even get tekken king for my mains in 7.

The one Lars. I'm happy someone is bringing him to tournaments.

I'm a fujin 😢

Frames in this game is fkd lol

- current rank: fujin - whats stopping me from going further: lack of tekken knowledge others gathered over the years.. its hard to learn the moveset of 30+ characters that are there for years and years.. pretty proud of the rank im currently "stuck" at, because i had to learn the game with 0 knowledge since the release.. gonna take a while until one gets used to the game completely and learn the things needed, but when it clicks its gonna be god ranks in no time

I play Kazuya, currently at mighty ruler. T8 is my first serious Tekken game, I played T7 a little after the T8 was announced. I plan to get to Tekken King. I need work with throw breaking and reactions, so that is what I practice the most. Good tip on starting on viewing one replay - it makes you see your mistakes and start trying to avoid them, I will incorporate it. Thanks!

Knee will surprise everyone