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Thanks Tipa, good fun challenge locks, I don't know if any of these get to your part of the world but if they do they are worth a try, thanks mate 🍻🍻👍

Yeah, I'd add some aftermarket security for sure, these are too cheap and very available, best of luck

That would be craftsman then 😁😁, I tried to make challenge lock pins, eyes too old, pins too small, injuries too likely 🤣🤣Cheers Roy 🍻🍻

I think if you pick then you earn the right to gut it, that said if the maker has a no-gut rule then I honor it

It was the sharp lip on Pin 2 that really held me up, everything went completely dead and even though I was barely using any tension it still needed less, a great fun lock mate 👌👌🍻🍻

Cheers QT 🍻👍

Cheers mate 👍 🍻 🍻 🍻 🍻 🍻

@@BeercanBushcraft cheers Tinnie 😁🍻🍻🍻

I really appreciate you asking I give it a pick first, I'm quite honored, many thanks mate and enjoy the lock 🍻🍻🍻🍻

@@paulg413 I knew it would bring joy to Tinnie, and honoring the tradition between you two by having you have a first pick just adds emotional value to the lock for me. So if I am being entirely honest, my reasons were a bit selfish 😂 I cannot thank you (both of you) enough. Cheers Paul & Tinnie 🍻🍻🍻

I love an expert Roy 😅😅🍻

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thanks Tipa 👍🍻

you cant win them all 😁👍🍻

one for the lever list and cheap too 👍🍻

thanks GPR 👍🍻

Thanks Dig, I got a load of these from eBay, all different makes and got them all open in 15 minutes in exactly the same way, some were harder than others, handle size makes a difference to the torque you can apply and newer locks are harder to read but fundamentally the same weakness 👍

Thanks very much Charles, Happy Birthday to you too 😁😁, cheers mate 🍻🍻

Cheers Gazz 👍

You can't win 'em all 😁, cheers mate

took a bit of practice, that feedback is quite subtle

That box format was super awkward, which does make me think we want to practice on problematic formats if nothing more than for a bit of realism, good fun none the less, I had to go beat up on a few other CL's to make myself feel a little better 😁😁cheers mate🍻

​@@paulg413 I know the feeling, when my slightly over 2 year old Ugandan grandson woops my backside in a fight. I have to fly out to Canada and wrestle a few grizzlies to get my manhood back.

Hi Tipa, yeah, a great fight, that lock 2 is very tricky, you can't win them all 😁😁🍻🍻

Yeah, it's not always click click open 😁, cheers mate 🍻🍻

Thanks KTB, I now know what I was doing wrong, ,,,,,, But I'm saying nothing 😁😁😁😁

That would be a sneaky twist!

The locks are not interconnected. They are two completely separate locks and mechanisms. ✌🏻🌶

I got caught in some pretty good spool ping pong, after a while I could tell I was going round in circles, it's a good CL made all the harder by the box format, cheers QT

I think we can Roy and if i need to lock something up I might even use it, It was a tight fit even with 1.2mm wire 🍻

Thanks Pete, that's very kind, I hope you@re keeping well 👍🍻

Cheers Tinnie, have a great week mate 👍🍻

New old stock 😁, I recorded it in march last year but didn't post it as it was during a flurry of videos but it was in a playlist which GPR found a few weeks ago

@paulg413 couldn't remember if I had seen it or not, seem to remember the title screen, lever blindness back then. This work lark is strange 😂

I can't find that information either, so i measured it, the inner diameter is ~8mm outer diameter ~9.5mm

@@paulg413 sounds close enough. The 7.8 from HUK is 7.8mm inside and 9.5mm outside. Thanks a lot!

I'd use it for sure, cheers QT 🍻🍻

Thank you, a world of fun with these, you end up making a LOT of different tools but in the main they're a little bit of puzzle solving and not too hard

Cheers Gazz 🍻🍻

Thank you Chuck, it took me long enough 🤣, this was an eBay find, they're not rare so a search rule will probably get you one in not too long a timeframe, great to see you pop back up btw, hope you're keeping well 🍻🍻👍👍

the technique is no different from either side of the lock, the bolt will be in a different position though and they will be different for all locks, keep trying and you will find it

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I think you'd really like it, I'll be interested to see how others get on with it, it's certainly tuned a particular way and I think picking styles might affect how people get on with it but overall it's probably not too hard, just very enjoyable 👌👌🍻🍻

Thanks Gazz, have a great weekend mate 🍻🍻

@@paulg413 You too!

Thanks Roy, spot on about tension, gently does it 😁😁the pins are little bits of sculpture, cheers mate 👍👍🍻🍻

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Thank you Tinnie, I think you made exactly the kind of CL I love, you were right though, it's a right old chatterbox, stay well my friend 🤜🤛🍻🍻

Yeah a pleasure to pick, worth a shot at it if the opportunity comes up 🍻🍻👍👍

Thank you 🤜🤛🍻🍻

It really is a fun lock, thanks very much mate 🍻🍻👍👍

@@paulg413 I haven't seen any of Tinnie's locks that didn't look like a fun pick

Thanks QT, this lock is exactly the kind of CL I like, cheers mate 👍👍🍻🍻

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Thanks Brett, it's another pretty little lock and a really fun pick as you'l find out soon 🍻🍻

@ it arrived today, thanks paul🕺

Thanks Kase, these 410s are tricky, they look easy on video but they one of the best locks for telling your progression, worth spending a lot of time on them, though probably not with these tools 🤣🤣cheers mate🍻🍻

Thanks KB, it was a great find for sure 🍻

If you are already using a rake to open locks then you have answered one of your own questions, how do the pins stay up?... this is because the tension wrench creates something calling binding with the pins, with practice you'll find the right balance of tension (use less if you can) that will allow you to move each pin individually, you find the 1 pin that is stiff and push it gently until it clicks then find the next pin and so on, eventually the lock will open. Initially you wont know what the pins feel like, it all feels the same but if you keep at it you'll be able to determine whats a pin and what is 'binding', it WILL take time but after a few weeks you'll be amazed at how you progress. Best thing to do is to join one of the locksport community forums on Facebook or Discord, great places to ask questions and get help from people, its a super friendly community and as long as you still to the rules, (no locks in use or that aren't yours) you'll do fine.

@paulg413 Yes, I watched a video on YT to demonstrate how it's done. I ordered a kit with fourteen rakes, picks, diamond heads, etc. It also came with two tension wrenches. After about thirty or forty minutes I was able to do it with three of the rakes or picks. I have a padlock which I believe may be old that I think my father gave me for one of my tool boxes. It is called 'Protouch' and I was completely unsuccessful with this padlock. I could feel the pins, but I just got nowhere with it. I noticed it had two peculiar offset holes below the place where one would put the key. Then I tried another lock which isn't like a pad lock and was also unsuccessful. Realizing this is going to take some serious practice and research, I've been watching videos. The yesterday my neighbor across the hall broke his key off in the lock, then for some weird reason went to the supermarket and came back with steaks and meat. Hearing him out there I figured he wanted the key out and I knew I had that pick, but he believed he could turn the mechanism with a knife or screwdriver and he would get in. He's really not that bright and he wanted me to try, but I told him I am in no way any good at this as I just got the kit and even tried my door the first day when I learned how to use the 3 and gave up quickly. I was going to drill into it so we could keep the outer part from twisting everytime he tried to twist it. Eventually I just put his food in my freezer, gave him a chair and he had to pay a locksmith $200 to come by. I wish I got to see him in action, but he just had a bag with a drill and pro tools and he was done quickly and was ready to leave. I wanted to see him do one of our doors with my set to see if it was even doable with non pro tools, but he was done before I got to ask him. I have no interest in opening things that don't belong to me, but it would of been nice to help my neighbor, but it was way beyond my skill level. Thanks for the advice though. I'll keep wrestling with this ProTouch lock and see what happens. One person in a forum did say that a certain master lock has made new revisions that make it much more difficult for an amateur who is just doing it as a hobby or challenge.

You'll have to make a picking tip for it but that's not too hard from an ejector pin, got a longer video on it here which might be helpful ruclips.net/video/8mGe2RjRy8A/видео.html

@@paulg413 Thank You