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poverty state arsenal 😂 i never heard that before 😂

Funny thing about the economy supposedly being so bad right now. It’s better than it was 4 years ago. But there was a pandemic. I hear you. So let’s talk pre-pandemic. Unemployment is at the same ultra low rate it was under Obama and Trump pre-pandemic. The rate of layoffs is 20% lower than its pre pandemic best. The amount of better jobs offering upward mobility is 20% higher than it was in 2019 pre pandemic. America is pumping more oil than it ever has and gas prices are at the level they were before the pandemic crash when no one was driving. If it wasn’t for opec price fixing it would be even lower. The stock market is cranking, with the Dow crossing 40k for THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY. So regardless of political preference, people need to wake up and smell the roses for 5 mins. America is back. Just like it came back strong after the Bush recession when the dreaded Obama brought unemployment down to 3.6% and tripled the stock market.

Sweet rig, what barrel did you use

My preferred coating is Chrome although I love DLC and Geissele's Nano coated carrier. Modern Armory makes a great Carrier in NP3, I would argue Sionics is the best.They make FCD's NP3 Carrier all are great options

I burned a 10.5 stainless barrel out in 1900 rounds.

Was the barrel torqued to 60ft lbs?

Same here, I hear a lot of horror stories with products, but I've had good luck I guess with no issues whatsoever with my 2 daggers, 300 BO, and my 5.56 freedom moe upper 👍

Nice video, thanks for the info!

WOW...just wow.... Military contract "ready"

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😩 boo hoo hoo cry babies

I'm sick of hearing about the bendy barrel it's blown out of proportion. Suck it up. You probably loosened tje screws that hold the barrel just to make it worse.

This is the first sig I've ever owned. Wow the sig community is full of cry babies. I'm happy with the rifle. I disassemble all my firearms before I shoot and check torque on all components clean and shoot. Should be common practice and avoids alot of winning when things don't work the way they should.

Don't push on the barrel.who grabs their battels and pushes it to the side when they shoot anyway?

Any update about the fix of this issue from sig? thank you

Torque the barrel clamping bolts to the correct value. We have had several come through here and have no issues after re-torquing the bolts.

Does this exist only in the LT version?

Sig is beign sig, taking military contracts with bribe is equal to play gamble with soldiers life, that company never ever gets into any military or law enforcement contracts, i don't even mention 6.8x51 drama which is solution of non existing problem, there are millions of problems of their QC and engineering issues since last 20 years, they should be greatfull for they had chance to covered up the biggest ones and they never went online,, looks like also bribing people in german military for making complaints about G36 barrel flex did not help them either...

Another suggestion for those experiencing this problem... increase the torque on your screws in 5 in-lb increments or so until you reach the torque spec. Overtightening one screw while the opposing screw remains loose could cause that opposing screw not to engage the threads properly. In that scenario, it's possible to install fasteners to the specified torque without the fasteners engaging symetrically and yielding the desired uniform mechanical contact. Also, any time a torque spec is involved, it's critical to consider whether the fastener needs to be dry, coated with oil/anti-seize compound, loctite, etc. Because the applied coating will make a big difference in how far the fastener engages at a given torque. Unfortunately it's not all that common for manufacturers to specify this.

Thank you for putting together this excellent test and demonstration. This is by far the best information I've been able to find on this subject, even 7 months later. Questions still persist about how likely this problem is to be fixed by torqueing the screws to specs and I haven't been able to find an official public response from Sig, which is somewhat disappointing. As a result, instead of an MCX Spear LT upper I'm now leaning toward alternative AR-18 type designs including the CMMG Dissent and the BRN-180.

Wow, you all need to get over it. You do realize all barrels move, right?

Does this only happen in the LT models or has it been found to happen in the 7.62x51 & .277 Fury ones too? Either way, this _really_ doesn't inspire confidence in the XM7/Spear MCX in general, as a platform.

Question. Is that a range/ SHTF toy or would you risk losing something so nice to an investigation in a self defense case? I have my most tricked out rifle for the range/SHTF and a basic dependable 10.5 for home and self defense

One of the nicest I've seen

Pretty wild to see on a rifle that is already essentially gen 3. Also hilarious to see the people saying it's the handguard, as if that could change the position of the flash hider.

Tighten the barrel clamps to 60 in lbs and the hand guard screws to 45 in lbs. DO BOTH. Shocking how making sure something is done to spec gives the desired result. Complaining about this is about the same as complaining that an electronic doesn’t work properly if it was shipped without a battery.

Did a fix ever come out?

Did you torque the two barrel clamp screws to 60 in-lb as per the manual to see if it resolves it?

Could you repeat the experiment but having taken the hand guard off first? It is absolutely impossible that your fingers can "bend" a barrel. I'd like to see what happened at the barrel insert. Thank you

Could you repeat the experiment but having taken the hand guard off first? It is absolutely impossible that your fingers can "bend" a barrel. I'd like to see what happened at the barrel insert. Thank you

pretty boy toy.

What! Your point of aim shifts when you bend the barrel?? Crazy.............

Nice build, what size handguard did you go with?

Try the same test on different riffles and try using a stand the doesn't move.

The only armor a civilian can realistically wear all day every day, and the only armor even remotely concealable under clothing, is soft/pistol rated armor. That usually means IIIA these days. Handgun rounds also represent at least 90% of those used in crimes. Not saying no one should own rifle armor, but I don't think most people would be well served by getting plates as a first or primary choice.

This video is deceiving. Your pushing the hand guard and it makes it look like the barrel is flexing. You should pull on the barrel without touching the hand guard. Do that and let's see how much it deflects.

SIG update?

Good info. Since your stand is able to slide and rotate on the floor, a 3rd laser mounted to the stand (and pointed to a consistent point on the wall as a reference) would have ensured that motion of the stand was not biasing your results. Torqueing to the proper spec eliminates the issue for many. ruclips.net/user/shortsDzqI5GsE7k0?feature=share

What kind of for grip is that called

One month later...

Dude I’m so glad that someone else likes the Magpul SLS and a 14.5!👍🏼🤯🔫

Not laboratory, at all.

How about instead of fucking around with lasers and vices we get an actual range video with an optic mounted and shoot the damn thing. Real results are on paper, there’s a lot of variables that have been brought up that could be affecting the test. Not saying you guys are wrong, you could be on to something. Again, keep in mind this is a modular rifle, it’s not your average AR. Every MCX I’ve used (and I’ve used a few) have been between 1-2 MOA no matter how much they get tossed around.

Looks a whole lot like handguard flex to me, which is to be expected with a free-float modular system that’s meant to be taken apart in less than a minute. If you care about precision when it comes to lasers mounted on your handguard, don’t go with an MCX 🤷‍♂️

Guys, I cheked my gun for several times and I see that the problem isn’t with the barrel. This issue is still with the hand guard. Try it this way: when you bend the barrel let’s say to the left and it’s shifted loosen the left hand guard screw and it will come back to the center again. Checked on shooting range and in my case this is it. IMO there should be a bigger torque value on the screws or some kind of padding. Hope this helped. Cheers

Any plans for followup vids? V curious to see how this turns out and whether u guys have any plans to try to fix it or get it fixed. I have bout 30 more questions but nobody is gonna read a comment thats a mile tall lol

Are we sure this isn’t the handguard flexing? That would make sense why it wouldn’t go up and down really but will flex left to right. Their lockup system sucks ass and I don’t in the slightest believe a barrel would flex like that if it was made of steel. But this is the biggest reason why the ris 2 is my go to handguard and why I dream of an LMT monolithic

now do the same test with a standard AR

when you pull the barrel try not putting your thumb on the handguard. I am guessing you end up pushing the hand guard more than actually moving the barrel. does that makes sense?

Is this actually the barrel moving or the floating guard?