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@@gunnerguy010 Idk what you mean by railgun PD, there aren’t any railguns that fill a PD role on either faction. For Sarissas, use your shipboard jammers to jam the enemy, the jammers also help scramble FCRs on point defence turrets like the Defender or Sarissa. The torpedo design I showcase also use inbuilt self screening jammers to scramble the enemy PD radars, including the FCR’s of Sarissas. Lastly, using the corkscrew terminal maneuver makes Sarissas vastly less effective, since they can no longer accurately predict where your torpedo will be when they fire.

@@d0d0birdiexd78 ok, what about auroras? since the torpedos are a helluva lot slower than more specialized hybrids, whats stopping them from being halting in thier tracks by a few lasers? (by "railgun PDs" i meant grazers)

@@gunnerguy010 Ahhhh i understand. Unless you bring a lot of Auroras, the thick hulls of the torpedoes should be able to shrug off the aurora fire, even when set to battleshort. I have had salvos of torpedoes halted in their tracks by players who bring a LOT of auroras, but I’m talking like literally 8-10 of them and by the end they had melted all their barrels. Grazers are actually a lot easier, since they can’t down a torpedo in a single shot and then need time to recharge. In terms of not being stonewalled by Auroras, again jammers help negate their FCR locks. Also, try playing around with torpedo range/maneuver tradeoff, maybe you’d prefer shorter ranged torpedoes but with higher speed and greater maneuverability. Hope that helps!

@@d0d0birdiexd78 it doesn't, because I feel like torpedoes don't do anywhere near as much damage as they advertise. They feel flimsy, and bounce off of anything but the softest of targets, and even then they don't do much

@@gunnerguy010 Honestly idk what to say to that, since I’ve reliably killed entire formations of ANS and OSP capital ships with them. If you’re not having a good time with torps, but still want some heavier damage gear I’d try out some beam DD’s for ANS and plasma/100mm for OSP, they’re great for cutting apart heavy and light targets alike. JDee has quite a few tutorials on other builds you might like

Yes it’s a decent strat and very fun! Be sure to hug asteroids, keep a low profile, and be smart when delegating your targets, focus fire on capital ships and strike with overwhelming force. Happy torping!

how did it go? im new also but havent tried tops yet

depends a lot what kind of PD you're using and what angles you're firing from

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Well i even now made a montage on Container bombing 😗😗

I’m glad you found the video informative! I recommend checking out other specific tutorials on things like missiles, there’s no way I could ever hope to cover all the mechanics of this game myself

oh yes, I like to use them so i can max out burn duration without compromising PK, but yes they're not exactly economical.

​@d0d0birdiexd78 this is a cool video. Congrats on the 100 subs btw, I just subbed and realized it moved from 99 to 100!

@@danebelling9526oh thank you very much! I’ll try to live up to your expectations

It's an interesting idea but you can get a similar effect for cheap with pushing 3g on corkscrew and using a smaller warhead

Personally id use faster torpedos with a cheaper cost as dedicated BSSJs, then fire them as part of a volley the last or first depending on what the range is. This saves costs and makes it so you have more flexibility.

fair enough, that might even be a more economical approach too since BSSJ is 10 points a pop. The reason I like to max out burn duration is for longer range strikes, but that's definitely a viable alternative.

@@d0d0birdiexd78 i usually do 5km range also, but with smaller warhead and 2.4-2.6 G maneuverability. Then make a second variant that's identical but with Decoy launcher, and mix both with the salvo planner

I've heard of people using torpedo axfords, solomons not so much, they're really badly suited for them. Ocellos are probably the best capital ship to use torpedoes with. Axfords are especially useful when given a torpedo "backpack" on the rear mount, and using 450s and/or beams on the other two primary mounts.

Due to the high hull cost of the Solomon and the low missile capacity of the axford, they are poorly suited for torpedos. However, I have seen a torpedo battleship *once* which worked well... although not as well as a well played CL group could Really, the best alternative is a missile beam axford. With the c4 mounts full of Size 3 hybrids and the c5 with a beam turret, you can use the hybrids to quickly disable a ship and use the beam to finish off targets when you run out of missiles.

@@d0d0birdiexd78 The torpedo Solomon is a scary meme ship that at best will kill atleast 2 BBs if played correctly but it's a pretty empty hull.

It may be risky (it most certainly is) but I really like using lineships, I've never really tried it with ambush tactics, but with the amount of torps you can throw at the enemy, you can breach even the toughest PD nets.

Ocellos are pretty commonly used as torpedo bombers If you are truly mad, you can also torpedo bomb with a Bulk Liner or....even a container liner.

There’s a weapons mod that goes with the hulls

Waiting for a real space battle sim RTS, with real Newtonian physic and orbital mechanic. That would be great, it's not that hard to understand how it works (KSP a game about rocket science with those mechanics is very popular). Nebulous is close, but sadly, they chose a more arcadish direction when it comes to physic and movement. Nebulous look like more a 3D naval battle sim rather than a proper space battle sim.

​@@mrsupremegascon Iirc nebulous was actually initially going to be a surface naval combat sim. However the lead dev was ex navy and felt as though creating a naval game with realistic radar and jamming might be getting a bit to close to the classified naval information type stuff so he instead chose to go for the more arcady space game

Dw just me being an idiot i am by no means a pro

@@d0d0birdiexd78 all those damn tutorials guiding and using waypoints for missiles only to see missile spam and charging the target. I'm wondering if I made a mistake buying this game.

@@rayyf69 steam has a pretty generous refund policy so long as you havent played 2 hours or more and kept the game for 2 weeks or more and even then it can be appealed

What exactly do you expect torpedpes to be used for if not close range direct fire? You can make good use of cruise guidance with weapons suited for it.

@@egoalter1276 Strategy in a strategy game. Remember all that tutorial where they showed you how to guide missiles around rocks? Why do all that cognitive load when you can simply point and shoot and shoot some more.