As someone with psychotic depression and severe anxiety disorders, I’ve never seen a character so much like me portrayed. Even when she’s a child, it reminds me of my own childhood memories.
oh my god the hallucinations get more clearer as the series goes on like they get subtitles and they're getting larger and closer to jinx (1:08 hes beside her, 3:35 hes pressed behind her and he looks so real, just like the day he died)
the scene at 1:08 is acc incredible, we get a subjective and objective perspective of jinx's breakdown here, the way her eyes are twitching and it looks like her face is itching to crumble down, the first exhale when the flashbacks start pouring in, i love that the sound of the flashbacks are as loud as the surroundings ESPECIALLY powder's shriek which is incredible voice acting, the flicker between the girl and vi, the sound effects between each flashback?? it makes her mental illness so much more real i also didnt realize at first but at 1:27 everytime mylo or claggor have the white scribbles they're actually saying something, so ik its no duh, but like when you look for it shes having actual conversations and responding to them each time they flash and say smth
The first one.Where she’s powder.Isn’t a schizophrenia episode,it’s a bpd episode.Both of the ones where she’s powder is bpd episodes.Not schizophrenia
jinx might be scitzophrenic but, more likely its tied to her borderline personality disorder which are two seperate diagnoses. Powder has afear of abannonment, a favorite person, she feels like a person can suddenly betray her, she has phycosis episodes, and she has halucinations. Those are all symptoms of bpd. Although halucinations are amongs 25-50% of people with bpd. However, jinx being scitzophrenic is more iffy since she has Borderline personality disorder she doesnt need scitzophrenia to experience phycosis and hallucinations. Infact jinx is a scarily accurate potrayal of somebody who has boederline personality disorder and its not just Vi's abbanonment its how powder's fears became a reality.
This is the part of her I really missed in season 2. The paranoia, the fear, the unbridled rage, the desperation to prove herself… It was all gone. Instead, she was reduced to witty comebacks and sarcastic jokes with her suicidal tendencies on the side until the end of act 3. What a disservice.
yeah i agree too, i also feel like they could've even expanded more on her depression and suicidal tendencies. and the ending doesnt rlly sit right w me, you have a depressed, suicidal person then the conclusion to close her story is to sacrifice herself? i feel like there was potential for arcane to show us what healing can look like in the elaborate way they showed us what trauma can be in s1. idk im mostly sad cuz i think i rlly could've learned smth, or have what ive been thru validated as well :(
the first time we saw powders meltdown when vi left her, i immediately burst into tears. im 23 now, and even since i was a kid, i’ve felt emotions so strongly and intense- it’s taken a lot of therapy and self-restraint to minimize how i let certain things or situations effect me emotionally, almost to the point where im numb now. but that scene… man, it reminded me of how real that struggle is, especially when you feel neglected or let down by those around you. the animators did a fantastic job portraying jinx’s struggle with her inner demons and thanks to them for showing the harder parts of these experiences that not a lot of people truly understand.
I have PTSD… and my sister has schizophrenia. It’s weird to watch Jinx sometimes, because of that. I see both of our mental illnesses playing in front of us. I see my horror, guilt, and flashbacks. Then I see my sister’s loss of reality, paranoia, and nonsensical speech. It’s freaky.
This is not schizophrenia, untreated schizophrenia should have hallucinations and delusions almost 24/7. Her psychosis is episode only, so its more of bipolar or other psychotic disorder
Powder’s melt downs are so frighteningly realistic. And I don’t know why it took me so long to notice, but the Claggor doll has his goggles he used to wear. I didn’t realize she had taken them, let alone kept them all these years
your second point is such a horrible thing to imagine, smth to remind her of when he was still alive like a constant reminder that she killed him a friggin positive feedback cycle you think maybe (on top of the fact that she was too young to process anything that she went through) she lets mylo and claggor still taunt her cuz she feels she should be punished
they're completely different but under the same umbrella. Schizoaffective is literally schizophrenia but the only difference is that schizoaffective has a mood disorder. And psychosis is supposed to be the lesser of schizophrenia.
0:41 i never really noticed but she’s talking to her hallucinations here even from that age, we just aren’t able to see them yet but the way she looks at each side and says “i only wanted to help” shaking her head, seems like the voices were pestering her in that moment
People say that the mania manifested when Jinx did. Powder has been manic her entire life. In the opening scene, she’s surrounded by those voices and images. They’re more subtle, but they are there. (Spoilers) I’m terrified to see how Silco manifests next season. Are we still going to see the doting father figure who gave up a nation for his daughter? Or are we going to see what Jinx thinks of herself now that she’s once again accidentally killed someone important to her.
@@davidmorgan5581 i think both of you are right in a way, in between it does flash to her seeing claggor's glasses so maaybe she was talking to claggor man for children to experience death at their age is so dark and can have such a great impact on them when they grow up, arcane navigated it rlly elegantly
Schizophrenia has hallucinations, delusion and disorganised thinking so its Psychosis as Cinema Therapy considered it Psychosis and her thinking is not disorganised
She may have BPD but that defo isn’t the only thing. Her broken understanding of reality, actually hearing voices when there aren’t any, and seeing monsters and cowering from them - just these few examples are clear indicators of schizophrenia. BPD may entail paranoia and dissociation but most certainly not vivid hallucinations. Who’s to say she didn’t inherit it anyway. We know nothing of her family other than Vi. Plus BPD is genetic also, as well as caused by the environment you’re in
@@agnieszkacz_ I'm actually researching this right now for a paper I'm writing for a class, and I believe Jinx has BPD and PTSD, and not schizophrenia. Of course, it's a fictional show and I'm not an expert, so these are just my opinions. And also mental illnesses can be related and the boundaries are not always clear. But from my research, BPD and PTSD can both absolutely involve vivid hallucinations, and actually people diagnosed with BPD suffer from hallucinations almost as much as people with diagnosed with schizophrenia, and with the same severity, according to this study: Belohradova Minarikova, K., Prasko, J., Holubova, M., Vanek, J., Kantor, K., Slepecky, M., Latalova, K., & Ociskova, M. (2022). Hallucinations and Other Psychotic Symptoms in Patients with Borderline Personality Disorder. Neuropsychiatric disease and treatment, (18), 787-799. doi.org/10.2147/NDT.S360013
@@FeedMeChaos1I mean, as someone with bpd, she covers all the criteria and she's VERY relatable. I don't think that's what the writers were going for, and although BPD can also involve psychosis, hers is definetely a case of schizophrenia. The writers wanted to portray schizophrenia, but they also portrayed BPD pretty well on accident.
@@Nerium_Aquifolium Yeah thats what I meant, It's definitely not BPD and is absolutely schitz, but these things share a lot of symptoms. (and im currently trying to find out if i have BPD)
The thing is it seemed like VI was more interested in turning jinx back to get her and catlyin outta the shit not coz of jinx herself, she put her friend over jinx and was hurting her in the process, the only reason Silco started to actually try to get out was to stop vi from talking because he knew it was hurting jinx…
I disagree. It's not like she knew the level of Jinx's mental state. Be for real. How could Vi have known she was triggering a phycodic episode when she's barely seen her since she got out of prison. Vi is a child of trama too.
@@Xoracious ? I was just saying Vi wasn't choosing Caitlyn over jinx in that situation and didn't know what she was was doing. Arcane isn't a story about Vi and her problematic sister nor is it a story about Jinx and the sister who betrays her. It's a story of two sisters being torn apart by unfortunate circumstances. I'm just saying to give Vi the benefit of the doubt since people seem adamant about giving that treatment to Silco
some of these scenes arent showing a schizophrenia episode. yes jinx does have this mental illness. i am still figuring out rn what is wrong wirh me and why i can see crazy things so im not entirly sure
@mrcrab7873 no you're actually right b4 my best friend died, she suffered from psychosis and acted like jinx whenever she had meltdowns (i agree bc psychosis houses other mental illnesses such as schizophrenia)
@@therrastrial that's interesting, I'm diagnosed with psychosis, and I go through the same things in the video 😐 Maybe it's a little more complicated than that
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorders_in_fiction#:~:text=Fans%20trust%20Jinx%20suffers%20from,Vi%20has%20extreme%20childhood%20trauma. PTSD, BPD and schizophrenia
As someone with psychotic depression and severe anxiety disorders, I’ve never seen a character so much like me portrayed. Even when she’s a child, it reminds me of my own childhood memories.
oh my god the hallucinations get more clearer as the series goes on like they get subtitles and they're getting larger and closer to jinx (1:08 hes beside her, 3:35 hes pressed behind her and he looks so real, just like the day he died)
the scene at 1:08 is acc incredible, we get a subjective and objective perspective of jinx's breakdown here, the way her eyes are twitching and it looks like her face is itching to crumble down, the first exhale when the flashbacks start pouring in, i love that the sound of the flashbacks are as loud as the surroundings ESPECIALLY powder's shriek which is incredible voice acting, the flicker between the girl and vi, the sound effects between each flashback?? it makes her mental illness so much more real i also didnt realize at first but at 1:27 everytime mylo or claggor have the white scribbles they're actually saying something, so ik its no duh, but like when you look for it shes having actual conversations and responding to them each time they flash and say smth
1:55 i thought she was talking to a corpse
HOW did i never realise their mouths are actually moving
i also always thought jinx had paraniod shizophrenia and fear of abandonment
what pisses me off is the amount of people acting like doctors in here, comeon man 🤦♀️
The first one.Where she’s powder.Isn’t a schizophrenia episode,it’s a bpd episode.Both of the ones where she’s powder is bpd episodes.Not schizophrenia
is it? i thought it was a breakdown anyone could have
YALL ARE FUCKIN STIPID SHE HAS BPD, get your facts straight
I love how we all agree she def has schizophrenia
She has bpd dumbass
Not schizo. She knows is only on her mind . She doesnt real visual hallucinations only voice representation
Except for all the times she hallucinates dead people actually standing there?
3:36 Mylo looks so dead...
In this small scene 5:49 Jinx said "Help" I think it might be me though-
Seeing this reminded me of my teenage years.
3:21 too accurate
i dont want to be like this anymore. it doesnt end. it never ends.
jinx might be scitzophrenic but, more likely its tied to her borderline personality disorder which are two seperate diagnoses. Powder has afear of abannonment, a favorite person, she feels like a person can suddenly betray her, she has phycosis episodes, and she has halucinations. Those are all symptoms of bpd. Although halucinations are amongs 25-50% of people with bpd. However, jinx being scitzophrenic is more iffy since she has Borderline personality disorder she doesnt need scitzophrenia to experience phycosis and hallucinations. Infact jinx is a scarily accurate potrayal of somebody who has boederline personality disorder and its not just Vi's abbanonment its how powder's fears became a reality.
This is the part of her I really missed in season 2. The paranoia, the fear, the unbridled rage, the desperation to prove herself… It was all gone. Instead, she was reduced to witty comebacks and sarcastic jokes with her suicidal tendencies on the side until the end of act 3. What a disservice.
i agree sm
yeah i agree too, i also feel like they could've even expanded more on her depression and suicidal tendencies. and the ending doesnt rlly sit right w me, you have a depressed, suicidal person then the conclusion to close her story is to sacrifice herself? i feel like there was potential for arcane to show us what healing can look like in the elaborate way they showed us what trauma can be in s1. idk im mostly sad cuz i think i rlly could've learned smth, or have what ive been thru validated as well :(
Agreed :(
I might have a problem
Sadly, while I thought this two, she’s not schizophrenic but has BPD which does have some of the same symptoms as schizophrenia
the first time we saw powders meltdown when vi left her, i immediately burst into tears. im 23 now, and even since i was a kid, i’ve felt emotions so strongly and intense- it’s taken a lot of therapy and self-restraint to minimize how i let certain things or situations effect me emotionally, almost to the point where im numb now. but that scene… man, it reminded me of how real that struggle is, especially when you feel neglected or let down by those around you. the animators did a fantastic job portraying jinx’s struggle with her inner demons and thanks to them for showing the harder parts of these experiences that not a lot of people truly understand.
I believe in the beginning when she says “I’m going to show him” I think she’s talking about mylo
She's wanting to prove herself to Silco and therefore steals the gemstone
@@rift_right3259 i really think she's referring to both
It's not Jinx's fault
it really is not
That is an example of "don't let kid hold something sharp" they still don't know the meaning of consequences
I have PTSD… and my sister has schizophrenia. It’s weird to watch Jinx sometimes, because of that. I see both of our mental illnesses playing in front of us. I see my horror, guilt, and flashbacks. Then I see my sister’s loss of reality, paranoia, and nonsensical speech. It’s freaky.
Vii failed powder….sad
This is not schizophrenia, untreated schizophrenia should have hallucinations and delusions almost 24/7. Her psychosis is episode only, so its more of bipolar or other psychotic disorder
First time I saw this scene with jinx arguing with her hallucinations. When Milo came up behind jinx, its freaking me up.😱
It was terrifying
I just realized she is left handed.
How many Mental illness does she have ?
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Powder’s melt downs are so frighteningly realistic. And I don’t know why it took me so long to notice, but the Claggor doll has his goggles he used to wear. I didn’t realize she had taken them, let alone kept them all these years
your second point is such a horrible thing to imagine, smth to remind her of when he was still alive like a constant reminder that she killed him a friggin positive feedback cycle you think maybe (on top of the fact that she was too young to process anything that she went through) she lets mylo and claggor still taunt her cuz she feels she should be punished
Is Psychosis and Schizophrenia the same thing or completely different
Psychosis is a symptom of schizophrenia- it basically means disconnection from reality
they're completely different but under the same umbrella. Schizoaffective is literally schizophrenia but the only difference is that schizoaffective has a mood disorder. And psychosis is supposed to be the lesser of schizophrenia.
@@Mrs_Boots psychosis is a symptom of schizophrenia (it just means being detached from reality) it’s not a diagnosis on its own! Otherwise correct :)
@@wednesdaysartcastle9018 thanks
@@Mrs_Boots no problem!
0:41 i never really noticed but she’s talking to her hallucinations here even from that age, we just aren’t able to see them yet but the way she looks at each side and says “i only wanted to help” shaking her head, seems like the voices were pestering her in that moment
People say that the mania manifested when Jinx did. Powder has been manic her entire life. In the opening scene, she’s surrounded by those voices and images. They’re more subtle, but they are there. (Spoilers) I’m terrified to see how Silco manifests next season. Are we still going to see the doting father figure who gave up a nation for his daughter? Or are we going to see what Jinx thinks of herself now that she’s once again accidentally killed someone important to her.
I thought she just saw Claggor's bloody glasses to the side and was struck with shock and disbelief.
@@davidmorgan5581 i think both of you are right in a way, in between it does flash to her seeing claggor's glasses so maaybe she was talking to claggor man for children to experience death at their age is so dark and can have such a great impact on them when they grow up, arcane navigated it rlly elegantly
The first mental breakdown i think it is more connected to Borderline personality disorder rather than schizophrenia or paranoia
Its horrifying to be unable to differentiate between reality and fantasy
Yeah, it is. Believe me.
Yeah..
No it would be fun
@@TheDarknessBelowprove it lil penis
@@bruhbruh-id5xu i really hope you get a taste of what it's like to have these kinds of things, ooh i hope it'll be soo fun for you! <3
Psychosis needs awareness
Schizophrenia has hallucinations, delusion and disorganised thinking so its Psychosis as Cinema Therapy considered it Psychosis and her thinking is not disorganised
I think her mental state is better described as BPD as well as signs of schizophrenia, according to the DSM5 but im not a professional
Plus it has disorganised thinking
She may have BPD but that defo isn’t the only thing. Her broken understanding of reality, actually hearing voices when there aren’t any, and seeing monsters and cowering from them - just these few examples are clear indicators of schizophrenia. BPD may entail paranoia and dissociation but most certainly not vivid hallucinations. Who’s to say she didn’t inherit it anyway. We know nothing of her family other than Vi. Plus BPD is genetic also, as well as caused by the environment you’re in
@@agnieszkacz_ thanks for educating me more on this
@@agnieszkacz_ I'm actually researching this right now for a paper I'm writing for a class, and I believe Jinx has BPD and PTSD, and not schizophrenia. Of course, it's a fictional show and I'm not an expert, so these are just my opinions. And also mental illnesses can be related and the boundaries are not always clear. But from my research, BPD and PTSD can both absolutely involve vivid hallucinations, and actually people diagnosed with BPD suffer from hallucinations almost as much as people with diagnosed with schizophrenia, and with the same severity, according to this study: Belohradova Minarikova, K., Prasko, J., Holubova, M., Vanek, J., Kantor, K., Slepecky, M., Latalova, K., & Ociskova, M. (2022). Hallucinations and Other Psychotic Symptoms in Patients with Borderline Personality Disorder. Neuropsychiatric disease and treatment, (18), 787-799. doi.org/10.2147/NDT.S360013
People saying "it's PTSD/BPD not schizophrenia!1!!" as if people can only have one or the other LMAO
Definitely not BPD.
Agreed, pretty clear cut schiz IMO@@FeedMeChaos1
Lmao like oh I guess I'm not depressed since I already have ADHD (?????)
@@FeedMeChaos1I mean, as someone with bpd, she covers all the criteria and she's VERY relatable. I don't think that's what the writers were going for, and although BPD can also involve psychosis, hers is definetely a case of schizophrenia. The writers wanted to portray schizophrenia, but they also portrayed BPD pretty well on accident.
@@Nerium_Aquifolium Yeah thats what I meant, It's definitely not BPD and is absolutely schitz, but these things share a lot of symptoms. (and im currently trying to find out if i have BPD)
The thing is it seemed like VI was more interested in turning jinx back to get her and catlyin outta the shit not coz of jinx herself, she put her friend over jinx and was hurting her in the process, the only reason Silco started to actually try to get out was to stop vi from talking because he knew it was hurting jinx…
Exactly, I don't get why some people would think that Silco was going to shoot Jinx. She literally his daughter and he also sees himself in her.
I disagree. It's not like she knew the level of Jinx's mental state. Be for real. How could Vi have known she was triggering a phycodic episode when she's barely seen her since she got out of prison. Vi is a child of trama too.
@@saltygreenbean8112 I was agreeing with the Silco one.
@@Xoracious ? I was just saying Vi wasn't choosing Caitlyn over jinx in that situation and didn't know what she was was doing. Arcane isn't a story about Vi and her problematic sister nor is it a story about Jinx and the sister who betrays her. It's a story of two sisters being torn apart by unfortunate circumstances. I'm just saying to give Vi the benefit of the doubt since people seem adamant about giving that treatment to Silco
@@saltygreenbean8112 Okay, sorry.
I relate to jinx on so many levels except I’m no where near as badass
Goodness, giving her a diagnosis? Aren't you such a qualified person~
She’s literally canonically psychotic
@@wednesdaysartcastle9018 but nt scitzoprhenic
some of these scenes arent showing a schizophrenia episode. yes jinx does have this mental illness. i am still figuring out rn what is wrong wirh me and why i can see crazy things so im not entirly sure
What might have been had vi let powder help
It's comforting, being a schizo myself, seeing more characters with this illness.
you should Hellblade senuas sacrifice game
she actually has bpd and ptsd. Which can cause hallucinations and delusions. I have both so I relate to her in those aspects
@@MacyKnudson And schizophrenia too.
Hey man…how are ya doing
@@spacescribs5838 I'm fine, thank you. People don't really ask me how I'm doing.
personally, i see her w bpd instead of schizophrenia
Not mutually exclusive.
Keep in mind this is what ACTUAL PEOPLE get to go thru on a day to day basis. TRAUMA doesnt fuck around. Or choose those
It’s actually psychosis
Psychosis is a symptom of schizophrenia
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@@user-ik4pj7mp3l I made this comment a year ago 💀
@@mrcrab7873 XD how are u now
@mrcrab7873 no you're actually right b4 my best friend died, she suffered from psychosis and acted like jinx whenever she had meltdowns (i agree bc psychosis houses other mental illnesses such as schizophrenia)
not schizo, but bpd
It's actually psychosis 🙂👍
@@nicholasamemazior3066 could and could not be. My bpd does this to me without a psychotic episode so 🥲
@@therrastrial that's interesting, I'm diagnosed with psychosis, and I go through the same things in the video 😐 Maybe it's a little more complicated than that
@@therrastrialWow you have bpd and are retarded how unfortunate.
Our first Arcane Character who suffers Severe PTSD and Trauma.
Vi tho
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorders_in_fiction#:~:text=Fans%20trust%20Jinx%20suffers%20from,Vi%20has%20extreme%20childhood%20trauma. PTSD, BPD and schizophrenia
Vi also suffers with major CPTSD and probably PTSD.