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and you made a fool of yourself because Westwood Studios used the same sprites and sound effects from Eye of the Beholder II: The Legend of Darkmoon. Don't be to hard on yourself still, they made Dune the real time strategy game and other amazing games like Blade Runner so you're on point with how innovative and complex the made their games.

Eye of the Beholder 1 was unplayable until someone made the memory resident mini-map called all seeing eye, i was able to play it 30+ years later, i loved it. but i refused to play Eye of the Beholder 2, because of one fundamental user interface failure in which i had to keep on pressing and releasing go-button to move which would damage my finger muscles(hold down keypress wasnt allowed). this was what i was thought about EoB, but my thought might not be true. westwood's BEST graphics with the SSI's trash influence of difficult interfaces and also the entire EOB box was presented with SSI and not westwood. as you know kyrandia and lands of lore 1 and dune 2 were made by westwood. 1989 prince of persia had perfect sound effects, 1991 westwood started to have sound effect, in 1992 westwood perfected the sound effects in kyrandia 1. while sierra and lucas arts still didnt have sound effects in 1994. i had and still have no idea how to play lands of lore 2 and 3 and blade runner, they didnt seem like the work of westwood. i have no idea how to play darkmoon, frankly i didnt and dont still play any SSI ever. when westwood died, when westood's spirits died , a part of me died with it.

@@abcdef2069 understandable given the situation but still Sierra and LucasArts employed very talented developers to make interesting adventures, they just could not keep it up.

Agreed. In Kyrandia 2, the extra walking around mostly only happens once you've fumbled a recipe and need to do it again.

Hey! Yeah, the fireflies were the biggest issue for me too. When I was routing the game for the first time I knew there was no way I could memorize the whole thing without coming up with some sort of elaborate system, and I didn't really feel like doing that since I wanted to just start running the game after I'd already spent quite some time routing it. In the end I never got around to actually finding proper strats for the fireflies. I was always just writing down the first letters of the first couple of colors on a piece of paper and keeping the rest (3-4?) in memory.

Thank you! Definitely go for it. The three things you mentioned (fireflies, rainbow room, disk puzzle) are the most challenging parts of the run, but they're also the only really hard parts, the rest is pretty chill. I got the game from GOG and ran it as-is (it comes bundled with ScummVM), so no need to do anything special. The fireflies and the skull were the most annoying part for me, but they're also early in the run so if something goes wrong you can always abort. You'll have to experiment with what works best for you in order to memorize the sequence and input it later, I had a sheet of paper and a pencil in front of me and was jotting down the first letters of the colors of the first 5? fireflies and keeping the rest in memory (writing them down was slow). I also had a diagram of the tooth colors on the same piece of paper which I then used to map the colors to the teeth on the spot. As for the heads/disk puzzle at the end (aka Towers of Hanoi) and the rainbow room, all I can say is you have to practice them both. A lot. It's probably going to be frustrating at first but eventually more and more parts of them will start becoming muscle memory, you just have to hang in there. The disk puzzle solution in this run should be optimal so you can just use that, but there might be (and probably are) quicker ways to go about the rainbow room, so if you feel like doing some routing, it might pay off. Good luck!

@@jenxness thanks so much for all that info and the quick reply, really appreciated! I love the order you do the rainbow room in. I think that'll be tough to beat, but it'll be fun to experiment. May I ask how long it took you before you were able to record this run? I'm just curious....but I'm guessing it's months and months of practice!

​@@dianacollini508 It's been some time so not 100% sure, but looking at the videos I uploaded around that time it probably took me around a month. (I started running Kyra2 after Kyra3, and there's almost exactly one month between my last Kyra3 video and this one.) I know for a fact that in the beginning I spent a couple of days just trying to come up with a good enough route for the rainbow room (which I rerouted later to what you see here) and practicing both the disks puzzle and the rainbow room in isolation before I went for an actual run. After that I must've spent a couple of weeks running the whole game until I had a run I was kinda happy with (ruclips.net/video/lejbY_v8J8w/видео.html) which I then kept improving on. But in any case, I wouldn't worry too much about how long it takes you to get a good run. You also don't have to memorize anything before you start running, I had notes for both the rainbow room and the disks puzzle in the beginning and was using them for as long as I needed them. So I'd say just take it at whatever pace you feel comfortable, it should first and foremost be fun. :) (Except when the game crashes on you or refuses to take your input. 🙃)

No way!!!!!!

Without the flowers you won't be able to activate the grave and get the invisibility power from the ghost, which means you won't be able to pass through the gate to the castle without the gargoyles noticing (and instantly killing you). The game is pretty harsh there, you're softlocked in that area and can't do anything but load an earlier save from before you left for the island.

@@jenxness yes that’s what I remember. I couldn’t figure out how to pass so I saved and quit to come back later. That was the end of that run.

Me too! I only discovered that when I started running the game and I saw another runner do it. Would've made things easier when playing this as a kid.

@@Shepard1Commander True, there are a lot of potions... But I feel like that's much easier to manage (and less frustrating) than a maze. (Especially a maze that doesn't change too much scenery wise, so it makes it even easier to get lost) :D

I kept getting the same birthstone order, but I know that other people had different sequences (though at least as far as I've heard, also stable), so my (untested) hypothesis is that the order gets determined on game install (unknown whether it survives reinstalls), at least in the GOG version of the game. Where the stones spawn in the environment is still random though.

This one made heavy use of 3D pre-rendered environments rather than the pixel art of the previous two, from what I can tell. I love the look of both!

@@whodev9674 right

Thank you for watching!

Have you tried Foxtail? They used a different universe but kept Kyrandian visuals and the vibe.

That's interesting. Where did you get the game from? On the GOG version I was consistently getting the same pattern over and over, so I assumed it just uses a predetermined seed to make the puzzle stable. Are you always getting the same pattern or is it different every time?

Nice going! Btw, that kind of time would already get you the 3rd place on the leaderboard www.speedrun.com/kyra1, just saying :)

@@jenxness haha sweeeeet

That will be the emulator. I'd guess the dialogue skipping has to do with how it queues mouse clicks, so if you queue up enough inputs when you start talking to someone, each line is skipped as soon as possible. Also works with some animations, though not all. As for the redraw glitch, that one is also triggered by clicking too fast. Not sure why exactly, but it sometimes results in parts of the canvas not getting redrawn.

@@jenxness Thanks!