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@@somrai3593 I wouldn't say easy.. but definitely would go in canelos favor, crawford looked little less than stiller against madrimov at 154, you can tell crawford respected madrimovs power, I can only imagine what canelos power at 168 could do

@@marquisbrown9264 I'm not biased at all, I even made a video explaining why I think canelo loses to benavidez

@@johnnybegood6705 people just don't listen, and I'll say something even more crazy, I don't even think crawford beats the likes of plant andrade munguia or berlanga, even the guy's that are small at 168 like plant andrade and canelo are still a lot bigger than crawford naturally, 154 is the capping off point for crawford, and even then he does barely enough to get by, 147 was his peak prime weight where he did his best work, ain't no way at 37 go from 154 to 168 just after fighting at 147 for year's, people are crazy

@@communitydevelopment6739 I agree but if they fought canelo would beat him

@@bradley8867 at least de la hoya literally fought EVERYONE he's definitely not the best because he was a win some lose some guy, but de la hoya has a way better resume than tyson

@@BoxingFan-m3r to a certain degree

Agree with you there. I'm a big Canelo fan but *what they're saying here is the same they said for Spence a natural middle weight!*

@@steveenczi8967 no problem g

@HawkTalksBoxing what are you going to semd the 10 bucks on ?

@@jesszaeus7371 I don't bet, I just watch and enjoy

@@WHITEBOY_RADIO finally someone with a W take

oh wow look! jake paul wins by tko, and he out boxed mike perry too, just like I said in the video, looks like you're the one that doesn't have knowledge 😂

@@Postcologne999 people think because a sport has "boxing" in the end that it means those sports can translate into boxing, it is common for boxers to have backgrounds in other compat sports, like for example dillian whyte and chris algieri both were kickboxers and then moved over to boxing and competed at a high level, but the difference is they started boxing young so they had time to build their craft, unlike mike perry who's coming back to boxing at age 32..

@@crownandglory21 still different, in boxing you do a lot of things that you aren't able to do in other compat sports because of their different styles, in boxing you perry using the gloves, you can't do that in bare knuckle, and boxers level change and cut angles, they use head movement to keep their head off the center line so it's harder to hit them, usually boxers have a traditional guard so most shots just hit off the gloves instead of your face, there's defensive drills boxers use to get out of the way of punchs, they use combinations and the list goes on and on, mike perry is square and keeps his head on the center line, he gets hit a lot and rocked too, his toughness has helped him and in bare knuckle his style works, but in boxing that style of fighting is the perfect style to get ko'd by a boxer, jake paul ain't some top level contender but he is a boxer with almost 7 year's of hard training and over 10 fights of experience, that's all he'll need

@@HawkTalksBoxing you were absolutely correct ! I box too, thought Perry may have a chance but I was wrong. Paul messed him up !

so mr "I can tell a guy who has never trained or fought is talking" got anything to say now? look how stupid you made yourself turn out to be

Perry is too awkward and going to smash Jake

@@rodbarker6598 that and he only had a month to train

He was chosen cause everyone said perry would smash him easily literally thousands of comments saying that for the past year.

@@dirtdawgz8326 yeah same with anderson silva, after anderson silva beat julio cesar chavez jr a lot of people were saying he would beat jake paul, then after jake paul beat him suddenly anderson silva became a 60 year old man overnight according to the Inconsistent commenters

@@dirtdawgz8326 Management doesnt care what the mob says, it operates on keeping them winning, there are loads of 200pound boxers that would fight Jake in a hot minute and many would beat him easily, they would rather fight a 175 guy that has a bit of hype going. Jake has been doing this since his first fight, they tried a real boxer and got beat they are just going back to how they win and make good money.

so mr "You sound like a geek who has never even hit a bag yet" got anything to say? It's alright, go back to making another cringey video on how to fix america, clearly boxing isn't your strong suit, leave the boxing conversations for people who actually know what they're talking about

@@HawkTalksBoxing you'd get ko'd as soon as you got close enough. You suck at boxing, even more so at analysis.

Tough guy talks crap after Mike loses. Pussycat.

Also to refute a couple more of your point Ali got knocked by Frazier. Roy Jones got knocked out by Antonio Tarver. Hector Camacho knocked out SLR hell you mentioned Ali v Foreman and didn’t mention Foreman got knocked out in that fight😂knockouts require context and you can be KO’d by someone who isn’t as great as you because boxing isn’t a sport, it’s a fight. Tyson’s resume may not be eye popping but you must understand…NOBODY WANTED ANYTHING TO DO WITH MIKE TYSON😭he was TERRIFYING. There’s some people who think the loss to Douglas was a dive to get someone to actually nut up and fight Tyson. You sound younger so maybe you just don’t understand there was a reason he was “iron” Mike Tyson and “the baddest man on the planet”😂

​@@funkyDBZthere's only so much I can say in a 9 minute video, I could've mentioned those fights, but I don't think it's worth making a super long video over, I said what I think is right, mentioned what I think is important to validate my points, michael spinks beating larry holmes twice and roy jones jr getting ko'd by antonio tarver plus the ali and foreman ko loses is pretty well known knowledge within the boxing community above the average knowledge of casuals, yes those guy's had ko loses but they still have a better resume than mike tyson

@@HawkTalksBoxing ok but you do know Foreman actually boxed around the same time as Tyson so half his resume is fairly similar. They faced almost the same number of hall of famers and share a loss to Holyfield(who is a hall of famer) Roy Jones has only faced about 4 hall of famers too I’d say these three fighter each have a case for being better than the other(I would give the slight edge to Foreman for the legendary comeback) but even he wasn’t perfect when he got back. Roy Jones career is actually a lot like Tyson. They were both here one day and gone the next after the years passed them by. The real edge I’ll give to Foreman is that Ali is the ONLY man to knock him out so you’re right in that regard those KOs don’t help Tyson compare to him. However sayin Mike Tyson has a weak resume doesn’t properly respect him or his era. Comparing competition in boxing is almost pointless anyway. Ali is the only boxer who didn’t have trouble finding quality opponents. Tyson fought all comers you can’t ask for much more🤷‍♂️Foreman fought longer but was missing some of the names Tyson had beaten such as Ruddock, Berbick, or Mercer(doesn’t take anything away from Foreman imo just keeping the themes of your argument) and Roy Jones and Mike Tyson fell off a cliff for one reason or another. Tyson’s fall off was partially because of the YEARS he spent in prison which you also forgot to mention. All that considered plus the tape we have I don’t see how Tyson doesn’t measure up to the guys we mentioned

@@funkyDBZ I didn't mention prison in the video because people tend to run through an excuses list for mike tyson and they usually bring up the prison thing, I don't think it matters in the context of the conversation, it's just something that happened, sure it may of effected him afterwards but it still doesn't change his resume, I don't go by would've could've should've I go by what happened and what is left, roy jones jr aged like spoiled milk just like milk tyson but I still think he has a better resume even if he lost a lot as he aged, and foreman is obvious, he beat michael moore at 45 so it's kinda hard to live up to that, I think mike tyson is right below all those guy's, not by a lot but just enough for him imo to be considered overrated based on what casuals think of him, in the graham schem of things mike tyson is still a freak of an athlete and competed at a high level, but compared to other elite heveyweights who did it better, within that context he's overrated, by casuals of course, not calling you a casual just in general

@@HawkTalksBoxing I respect that opinion brother I don’t make excuses either and I rank Tyson at about the same place. HOWEVER there are certain things outside of a boxers control that I feel are worth taking note of. For example if Mayweather fought Pac in 2010 who knows how that would’ve gone. 49-1 maybe🤷‍♂️Now to be clear Tyson could have avoided prison obviously😂but I feel it should be noted that he missed out on plenty of fights that could’ve improved his lackluster resume including the Michael Moore fight which happened before he was released🤷‍♂️as far as RJJ is concerned much like Tyson he really only had one substantial victory after he got KO’d by Tarver with his victory over Trinidad. Also out of the three fighters we’re talkin about Roy Jones(and you may wanna fact check me on this😬) has the worst record against Hall of Famers since he lost to Hopkins, Glen Johnson, and Joe Calzaghe. If anything Tyson having a record anywhere close to Foreman and RJJ despite going to prison as long as he did is a testament to just how good he was. A little overrated by some…yes(I gotta homeboy that say he the GOAT obv I do not agree😭)but there’s definitely an argument for him being better than those guys despite him not beating up guys at the level that Ali fought because as I mentioned, there is not a single boxer in history in my personal opinion who faced as many fighters that were as dangerous as the guys Ali beat. Did he beat as many Hall of Famers as some guys…no. But beating guys who were established before him like Patterson and Liston then a decade later in his 30s beating up and comers like Earnie Shavers(who maybe the hardest puncher of all time), Leon Spinx, and Ken Norton😬maaaan we have no business comparing ANYBODY resume to his and I feel like we do with Tyson and it makes either over or underrate him depending on how you look at guys back in this days which isn’t fair. Ali was inhuman, he would rather die in the ring than the way he actually did. But those other two for the reasons I mentioned I think can be discussed with Tyson without one of them running off from the other. In short I agree with you😂the three of them rank the same it’s just hard for me to rank one over the other two so easily mainly because I remember Tyson and RJJ while also respecting the legend George Foreman

@@kickhaoutthatrap I agree those are fights he can go off to the sunset with

@@jesszaeus7371 jake got big for mike tyson but now he has to come back down like 30 something pounds for mike perry because the mike tyson fight was canceled, I actually should've mentioned that in the video, the weight jump and now suddenly cutting weight might hinder jakes preformance and it might even weakin his chin possibly

@@HawkTalksBoxingthat and Perry’s going to be the most awkward fighter he could ever fight the man stood with mvp Jake couldn’t hold his nut sack

@@BB-gu9kx I don't recall saying anything about munguia size

@@HawkTalksBoxing His size wasn't brought up Lol

@@BB-gu9kx then why are you even talking about it? It's very unrelated to the topic matter

@@HawkTalksBoxing Not really. Canelo should be fighting guys in the top 10 super middleweight division not super welterweights and middleweights it has everything to do with the topic.

@@BB-gu9kx well in that case yeah I agree, however sometimes you're gonna be fighting smaller guy's moving up, it happens, however dragging up crawford from 147 to 168 is hella wild lol

@@BB-gu9kx yeah but he's clearly ducking for other reasons, david benavidez has been his mandatory for year's, not fighting your mandatory and putting it off for literally year's is wild

@@HawkTalksBoxing Yeah and the wbc is letting canelo get away with ducking.

​@@BB-gu9kx they should strip him for avoiding david benavidez for this long

@@HawkTalksBoxing He's their cash cow. Won't happen.

@@BB-gu9kx ik they should though

@@cantuti1 canelo vs david benavidez would be a huge fight in boxing, the boxing fans and mexican fans would all be watching, you're wrong

nah wtf are u talking about true boxing fans wanted to see this fights for years im sure this will do great paper views

@msimndofga-jg2vt Nonsense. Most Boxing experts have him in top 10 heavyweights of all time. Like I said, his style combined with size has a short shelf life. And back then they fought more often. You sound like a casual thinks a couple losses is a big deal. Some of the guys he beat such as Razor Ruddock would destroy any of today's champions. I agree Tyson didn't have lots of heart when pressed. But prime Tyson, the combination of speed, power and punch volume was hard to beat.

@@ureasmith3049 Razor Rudduck was knocked out in his prime by David Jaco a journeyman, Yet Rudduck would ''destroy'' todays champions like Usyk, Joshua and Fury?? Rudduck would lose to all of them, he was a left handed verison of Deontay Wilder.. and that's mikes best win?? Exactly why the guy was/is overrated.

if we use that logic and evander holyfield and lennox lewis aren't great then that would actually prove my case even more since mike tyson would've lost to 2 fighter's that aren't considered great

I think all three of them are great Louis Tyson and Holyfield. I was just trying to give an example that anybody can be made to look average. If you pick out certain fights. I believe Mike Tyson is an all-time great heavyweight fighter. I think Mike is a top 10 heavyweight of all time. You believe Mike was just a good fighter and he was overrated, but can you name another heavyweight who was just a good fighter that unified the title held all three belts and defended it 10 consecutive times

@@dtown1671 trust me there are fighter's even more overrated than mike tyson, like certainly wilder for example, super overrated heveyweight boxer, mike tyson was way better than wilder by a mile, but as far as greatness is concerned I think mike tyson was a really good boxer who touched the gates of greatness but never fully got in, that's what I think

I disagree with you, sir. I believe Mike did get into the Gates of greatness and I’ll admit I do understand the points that you make against Mike Tyson. I just believe that those points you make can be applied to any fighter. I know when it comes to ranking heavyweights Mike’s not everybody’s cup of tea. I am very curious about one thing, though if Mike’s in that category of very good fighters and he’s not in the category of great fighters, can you please tell me a few fighters who did get into those gates of greatness and who are in that category of great fighters?

@@dtown1671it’s just his era was weak compared to say the 70’s. Ali was fighting guys who were all considered better, more powerful. Against George, he was like 75-1 underdog. Nobody but him thought he could win. Ernie Shavers, Ron Lyle, Ken Norton, the field of fighters was devastating. No easy wins for anyone. Mike was elite among subpar competition. Even Michael Spinx I never considered upper echelon.

okay so firstly pointing out larry holmes was 37 and not 40 is not a valid argument to anything that was said, I know he wasn't 40 I just said he was because he basically was 40, boxing fans say this kind of stuff all the time, nobody is getting anal on how old someone exactly was, secondly some of what you said was actually true, you finally surpassed all these other retards in the comments, but it's not just who mike tyson fought and how he preferred in the fights that defines his career, it's also who he didn't fight, I know it's almost impossible to literally fight everyone, but there are guy's that mike tyson didn't fight in his prime that guy's like evander holyfield and lennox lewis did fight, just to name a few, david tua, ray mercer, riddick bowe, if mike tyson fought these kind of caliber of fighters in his prime he could arguably have more losses on his record, or more wins, either way he doesn't have enough good wins against guy's of that caliber, and he aged like spoiled milk at the end of his career, imo the guy's he lost to had better resumes, particularly evander holyfield and lennox lewis

Mike didn’t fight ray mercer, tua, or riddick bowe but he did knock out Jessie Ferguson and holmes who both beat ray mercer. He also stopped Andrew golota who was beating bowe in both fights. He didn’t fight tua at all you got me on that one. But who did tua ever beat to make his name legitimate on anybody’s resume. That’s who your next overrated video should be on. Ronnie shields worked with all three evander mike and tua. Tua was the only one he said was lazy and didn’t want to train

@@dtown1671 I'm not saying all of those guy's are all time great worthy opponents but it would've looked great for mike tyson if he had them in his record, there's many more I didn't mention

really? I gave a lot of examples and solid points in the video and even referenced fights that goofs like you probably never seen or heard of, also if I'm making a video based on a boxer I'm obviously gonna do research before talking about it, you just saw the word "OVERRATED" and reacted on emotion, quote something I actually said in the video and make a valid argument out of it instead of saying something that doesn't require you not to use your brain

@billevans915 you made a video on your baseless opinion. During Tysons run, he fought everyone put in front of him. Everyone knows the story about Tysons coach Cus dying and how that basically changed everything for him. Failed marriage and prison. Years away from the sport and was still able to compete at a high level. Past his prime, yeah he got beat. No question. The guy holds the Olympic record and the professional boxing record for fastest knock outs. Then your going to say well who did he beat? He beat all professional boxers of his time.. then you'll say oh everyone has a sad story it doesn't mean he was good. You are right everyone has a story but Tyson is the best boxer of the time of his prime. He lost focus and could have been better no doubt. No matter how much time you spent making the video it's still shit..

@@kazkitzgaming my video wasn't baseless you're just reacting on emotion and being a fan, also mike tyson didn't fight everyone that's very untrue, people love to run through the mike tyson excuses list, oh cus died oh he did prison time oh he wasn't motivated, literally there's only so many excuses you can make

@billevans915 brother, I would love to understand your mindset. You just watched some videos and read some articles and think you understand boxing now. I bet you have never laced them up and actually know what you're talking about. But that's okay that's why we have the internet. It's for people like you that don't understand or know what you're talking about to say stupid shit.

@@kazkitzgaming actually you're wrong, I do have a little bit of experience, not that I needed to just to have an opinion, by that logic I can't have a political opinion because I don't have a college degree in politics, I can't have an opinion on why I don't like certain kinds of music because I'm not a musician, see how dumb your logic is? all I did was watched a bunch of mike tysons fights and came to the conclusion that he's overrated based on the fact that he didn't fight everyone in the 90s and the 80s was just an weak era for heveyweight boxing, that's factually true mate, you don't become the greatest heveyweight of all time by beating a grandpa and a skinny light heveyweight

exactly, mike tyson had an easy era to work with, clearly the 90s heveyweights were too much for him

1 we're not talking about dempsey 2 mike tyson being the champion in the "hip-hop era" has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation of long lineage elite heveyweight boxing lol

You're sadly mistaken about Dempsey! He was a killing machine in the ring as a brawler and also one of the most powerful punchers in history! Even your dude Mike Tyson admired and copied his techniques and style. Tunney was an incredibly gifted boxer by the way. He had a jab like Ali.

some people call me a "hater" because they got no valid arguments based on what I actually said

perfectly said, this is exactly my point but people don't listen, they just hear the word "OVERRATED" and react on emotion instead of hearing out what I actually said

of course he will and he should, he was an incredible boxer in his prime, I just think his legacy as far as who he actually beat and lost to is overrated

@@HawkTalksBoxing Yeah. Just only factor is that after jail Tyson kinda lost some of the peek a boo style and he lost headmovement, speed, and was mainly relying on power and landing a clean punch. His stamina wasn’t as good and he lost that hunger. I feel like the Tyson who fought Jose Ribalta would put a great match up against fighters like David Tua, Holyfield, and Lennox Lewis. I never liked the idea of Tyson vs foreman because of foreman’s age at that time.

​@@HawkTalksBoxingas a tyson fan,I think this is a really good,un bias analysis....great analysis even,you may even be completely right....its actually pretty hard to argue against all the well made points you layed out......and ill try not too be too offensive and disagreeable 😊😂....but let me point out a few things.....larry holmes after he lost to tyson,he went on when he was even older,went against an defeated ray mercer,beat him hands down,then gave the great holyfield a heck of a good fight(holmes actually did better against holyfield than tyson did)holmes gave an interview with al albert,before he fought mercer,holmes was asked "would you like to fight tyson again?"holmes response"well,no,I'd rather fight holyfield, cuz tyson has that power" holmes wanted no part of tyson during his 2nd more successful comeback......if tyson gets no credit for his win over holmes,then lewis should get no credit for his win over tyson...yeah lewis,tyson were around the same age,but anyone who knows boxing,knows they peaked at different times,tyson peaked early,lewis peaked much later...up and comer lennox lewis couldn't stop 3rd rate journeymen levi billups...the lewis who came later would of obliterated levi billups...I don't know why spinks is considered a light heavyweight only it seems,he had two victories over holmes(second one admitting was controversial, I actually think holmes won that one,)but spinks then beat cooney who foreman says was one of the hardest punchers he ever fought....say what you will about steffen tangsted but he was the heavyweight champion of Europe...so what else did spinks have to do to prove himself as a heavyweight?.....Tysons second fight against ruddock,ruddock almost killed dokes,tyson had alot of adversity during that second fight and he didn't fold,that completely goes against the claim that all you had to do was stand up to tyson and he would lose,bert sugar puts tyson around 13,14 of all time,that's about where I put him....let's remember lennox lewis has only 44 fights,so let's judge tyson on his 44 fights,that means tyson would of retired after his second win over frank bruno,that means,he never would of fought holyfield or even bruce seldon..had tyson retired then he would of only retired with one loss..so had he retired then he would be better thought of than his is now.....my opinion lennox lewis wasn't tested enough with only 44 fights,to be put on the same level as Muhammad ali...plus when he got stopped twice with one punch,yeah he won both rematches....but imagine if that was tyson or ali who got stopped with one punch,especially in a championship fight?...that would of definitely tarnished Tysons reputation,could u imagine all the haters if tyson during his championship reign got stopped by one punch in a championship fight(you were talking about and pointed out the way tyson lost),my opinion being stopped by one punch was way worse than Tysons loss to douglas....holmes fought alot of the same fighters tyson did but it's tyson who fought the tomatoes cans....

I'll say this about Tysons reign I'll put it this way.....marciano fought in kinda a weak era too,the greats were not prime,alot of people put down his overall competition....same with holmes,he fought in kind of a mediocre era,he didn't have fighters like frazier(joe),liston,foreman....but holmes is definitely considered a great,so is marciano...though it's questionable competition...but it's abundantly clear thier talent is obvious, though they dont have a great win over a genuinely prime great on thier resume..but for holmes to get to 48-0 and for marcianoto get to 49-0 says something....historian Howard kaplan says he thinks sonny liston should be in the top 5 greats of all time but what all time great did he beat?but like the others his talent is obvious,to be so dominant.....marciano, holmes,liston were all dominant in rather mediocre eras,but thier talent is obvious...but the same can be said about tyson,yeah he reigned in a somewhat questionable,mediocre era, but his talent is more than obvious,so he should be given the reasonable credit,just like all the others

@@RaySierra So you think Lewis and Holyfield were greats, just because they fought each other and lost and won to each? If so, I think your logic is screwed and unjust. It doesn't matter what era a boxer was in, if he demonstrates skills and will, he's a great fighter. Tyson was definitely a great boxer.

@@Kewambi People like Larry Holmes were not afraid of him, but they still lost. And when people started getting knocked out by Tyson, that's what made people afraid of him, and they should have been.

Tua and Foreman would decapitate Tyson