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I believe they did a stealth change to the stats. When I simulate a reroll my stats are different as well. I may be doing a Bows FAQ video soon and will address this, as well as all the comments asking if traits allow bows to go beyond the minimum draw time (hint, they do and bungie has stated as such).

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You bet!

You bet!

Yeah... level 20 gives an extra "tier" on the stat... best levelling suggestion I can give aside from just using it: Shuro Chi with deadfall void hunter.

I am level 20 with the bow and i don’t get the same stats ?

Same I don’t have those stats unless Bungie stealth nerfed.. Acc. 51, Stab. 49, Hand. 67. My bow is level 20

@@dmx0352 see Wolvies update comment about nerfing

@@ChillDevon see Wolvies update comment about nerfing

Yeah... just double and triple checked everything... seems as though the base stats got nerfed... in the video the base accuracy was much higher than the 24 it now starts at.

Could be fun.

@@Wolvie1079 yeah I made it, it's pretty good

Choosing your intrinsic frame is part of it, but then hitting level 20 will unlock some bonus stats.

I love the fact that they gave us a precision void bow and it just so happened to be craftable, but now I am spoiled and want the rest! (Grinding out vanguard rep in hopes that I get 2/3 traits in each of the columns for the new solar bow until I get my wish though).

wtf did i just read

A few things could be happening here. First, make sure you are using the right string/shaft, next if you are using the same third and 4th column traits as me then make sure they are the enhanced traits for the extra stats. Finally, in this season there seems to be a bug or 2 with the crafting system options so it could just be that in which case I don't have a definite answer for you on that short of reporting it if you can track what is/is not causing it.

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For lightweight frames they cap do indeed cap at 540. Precision frames cap at 576 (Under Your Skin)

Archers tempo and successful warm up will take it below the cap.

this aligns with my testing and the forums I have gone through as well, but there are 2 things you have to keep in mind... first it is diminishing returns, so you will notice more at higher draw times than you will at the lower ones second is that it does speed up the actual numbers and reflects in the resulting damage/falloff/arrow drop, but the animation will only get so fast, so you have to "feel" the right time to release your arrow to realize the full benefit

I would guess you either need to choose your mods/3.0 fragments to get the extra stats or you just don't have the gear available to hit those stat levels.

I am a bit of a bow junkie and prefer the precision bows, but crafted the way I want it this one is "passable" :) LOL

Thank you! Will do!

I have had those conversations a few times, and have personally never noticed much of a difference in reload having that much of an impact with the kind of numbers that could be achieved with what is left after hitting fastest draw time, but have definitely noticed the damage drop off/aim assist from the accuracy missing on a lightweight bow. Decent thought though.

@@Wolvie1079 iirc bows do not have damage drop off, they have accuracy drop off which as you could probably guess makes it harder to hit shots the further your are. hence why bows range stat is replaced with an accuracy stat

Only if you want the raid specific perks. Typical stuff like rapid hit, subsistence, vorpal, dragonfly, etc would use the usually elements.

It is so good, you will love it!

I am glad you liked it! If there is something else you would like to see let me know. I want to grow this channel and am looking for ideas that people will actually find useful rather than just "fluff".

Would’ve love to see gameplay, but yes! Amazing video

Yeah, seriously. I couldn't figure out what to do with this bow... even though it's in primary slot and light weight.. I didn't want to just build it like every other bow. It feels weak and I'm looking to beef it up. I love bows... so I'd like to use it. Especially since it's origin trait is pretty nice imo. I was thinking of using it just to debuff with the origin tbh. I was also thinking explosive head with it for shielded enemies like knights and phalanxes... I think it'll do well and feel a little better with an actual purpose.

I was considering making one on it but most vids on that one are correct: Elastic, Fiberglass, Archers Tempo, Explosive. I will make one anyways with some detail on the comparisons though if you think it would be useful.

@@Wolvie1079 Thanks for the response. Much appreciated. I've already watched some of these videos in regard to "under your skin." And I have to agree with you, it seems pretty straightforward. However, I must say, you do an excellent job of communicating and educating in your video. Your analysis is superior. It's really up to you either way if you would like to take the time and make the effort. I'm going to subscribe anyway. I'm confident I can learn something here. Thanks again.

Thanks for the Sub! I will be doing more videos as good topics come up or are suggested, I don't want to make "fluff". If there is something you want to see let me know. Web tools to use, high end content strategies, solo runs, mechanics, build-crafting, weapons, whatever...

Happy to help!

With the recent change to Bait and Switch I may have to re-spec my Cataclysmic... still 20 short on the elements for it so you know... /grind-time

With the raid weapons being what they are, and the ability to craft your own 5/5 god roll I don't mind that 5 are needed, just need to make sure the guaranteed deepsight chest is spawned and have some spoils of conquest on hand for the first run of each week. It is almost nicer than having to grind out Wellspring (I call them Hellspring) for those 4 weapons.

Glad it was helpful!

Any time!

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I am glad it helped! There have already been updates to DIM so I will be posting an updated video soon! Hint: Stasis subclass Aspects and Fragments can now be chosen to include in the loadout as well as cosmetics! Void 3.0 I am sure will follow after the launch of Witch Queen.

@@Wolvie1079 DIM looked very dense and difficult to consume all the information, but honestly the video made it simple. Excited to watch the new video then 🙌🏼

Much appreciated!

Thanks