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Hi, you can definitely use the TAB option. This video was done when Logic first came out. I did another video which is not as cumbersome. Warmest

Good idea Chris ;) After sitting with it a lot more I have more flow. There is another trick to taking out notes you don't want on the comments. Happy producing.

That's a great point!! Thank you for sharing that ;)

I haven't played with Scaler. That sounds really cool ;) I am just not the best Pianist lol

Hi ;) I am STILL getting used to this version of drummer. It would be GOLD if you could have the two versions to choose between. Have fun producing ;)

Hi Joseph, thank you so much! Really appreciate your kind words ;)

I agree. There would have to be a reason, I think lol, but no idea what that reason is. Hopefully it is fixed in a future update!

Great point - I completely agree that theory is needed now more than ever! ;)

I still way prefer session musicians! The AI session players seem good for just smashing out a quick demo of the song (in my opinion), and you still have to program them.

Thanks so much for the comment and compliment! I hear you with the TAB feature that definitely speeds things up :) I did a video including this on how to play in chords in real time! Happy producing :)

Oh man! It can be frustrating when you feel like you’ve wasted money! I am sure there are some amazing features in those softwares that aren’t available in Logic?

Absolute pleasure 👍🏻👍🏻

Hi LEGEND! I am so glad it helped 👍🏻🙏🏻 I’m not sure either why “internal midi in” needs to be enabled. Thank you for watching and for your feedback.

Thank you so much Richard for your kind words! I'm glad the tutorial helped! ;)

You are most welcome :) I’m glad it helped!!

I hear you. I’ve been playing more this week and there is some ability to really program and direct session players in a good direction to get some solid results :) glad it is working for you legend!!!

@@SvenTydemanMusic I started my recording adventure bouncing tracks on reel to reel back in the 70s so anything that comes along is amazing to me. You couldn't have imagined what we have now back then.....I think some people don't realise how lucky we are now.

That’s actually so cool! You would have a different degree of appreciation than most 👍🏻👍🏻

Great question! You will want to have the Chord Track selected as you play! Try this: Use "G" to open the global commands window. 2. Use the + icon in the chord track to open 8 bars of the chord arrangement. It will probably say "c" for 8 bars 3. double click on the chord track arrangement. 4. Select the midi input - don't close this window! This will have all the chords and extensions. 5. Now play your song / record and TAB for inputting the chord. Let me know how you go

@@SvenTydemanMusicI just found what the problem was! You have selected the track in the "Internal MIDI In" on the track header on the left, and I didn't have it selected! Thanks

Awesome! I’m glad you have it sorted :)

Your message covers a lot and I appreciate you taking the time to comment. AND you have some valid points and I appreciate your opinion. Where do you sit with A.I. In Logic Pro 11? Are you for it or against it? I see it as a tool that needs direction. Can it be effective? absolutely! I also agree that this is in its infancy and will expand quickly! I have been sitting with Session Players more this week and unpacking it. It is versatile and I can see many pros and cons! What WON’T change is the need to have a good song and an artist performing it - that will be genre specific I’d say. Just wanted to thank you for your comment. I’d like to think more about your comment and give it more attention :)

@@SvenTydemanMusic Thanks, Sven! I'm just keepin' it real. I wrote a song with the AI session players a couple days after it came out. And came up with one of the catchiest melodies I have ever written (on top of their chord generation). There were some notes from the keyboard player I zoned in on, that sparked a fresh completely original melody. I'm 49 years old. I've jammed with guys, but at this age, we're all busy with jobs, wives, kids, etc. I tried putting bands together, I tried writing with others. They always fade away. So, I didn't feel much difference getting ideas off what the AI was spitting out compared to what my former jam guys tossed out. AI has just as many little odd notes and quirky and interesting choices as any human I've jammed with before. I selected a cliche chord progression, but for the chorus, I punched in my own chords. But why use normal chords? I threw in some shit I don't even know how to play: E7 sus2 add flat 9, stuff like that! I got a major jazzy fresh flavour that led me to write a strange melody - they are some of the most interesting songs I've written in the last year, I have to admit. Now, as for the future, and believe me, the future is just about NOW! Currently, everybody and their brother is "an artist". It's cools we can skip the corporations, but now there is a wall of noise from anyone with GarageBand or free DAWs - 99% of it is absolute SHITE. TERRRIBLE. But it takes up space. It Buries great music (like what I make - ha ha! - half joking). But now we are competing against machines that can make song with AI singers or singers that sound just like John Lennon and Elvis - they can make a thousand, I don't know, 10 thousand songs a day - and flood the market waiting for what sticks. You think these consumers - 14 year old girls mainly - give a shit if you have a fancy "real" session musician playing a bass or drum or even singing, as they half-listen through a tiny speaker on their I-phone? They want a a pounding 808 with no verses, just three hooks slammed together, about human body parts. What I see happening is your phone or computer or car will hear you say something about Beatles and your upcoming trip to Africa. Suddenly, you're getting new music and video suggestions - all AI created - with songs about Africa in the style of The Beatles. And there will be ads attached to these songs. AI is now altering content to match not only your surfing habits, but out of that, it's making a psychological evaluation about you in order to create content that you almost have no choice but to click on - and they will make billions off of this. This is what the engineers at some major banking establishments are telling me is ALREADY HAPPENING. This is not science fiction - this is right now. AI is NOT another tool. See, we're not used to "tools" turning around and using US as the tool. That is what this is. It's not like ANYTHING we've ever experienced, and each day, it's getting more intelligent, more real, more powerful, more ubiquitous. Corporations will get rid of human artists. They will promote AI artists, and AI "Legacy Groups" and mash ups. The Beatles will be touring again soon - as holograms, with all new songs, and they will be good. Artists thought they were so special - I certainly did. I've dedicated my entire life to art and creativity. I have an MFA from one of the top 10 universities on the planet. But deep deep down, it's just math. Look at Leonardo DaVinci geometric-based paintings. And under all music is simply math. It's learning at a super-rate how to use math to put sounds in order, that creates ad revenue. It's that simple. How are you going to compete with 100,000 2 minute songs a year, put together after analysis of millions of songs that have been proven to get clicks? And let's say you beat 'em. You right a better song. Who is EVER going to hear it from the flood of millions of songs of content? People will only see what the platforms want them to see, and they want to do it as cheaply as possible. Without paying humans. You want to pay a human $1500 to license their little song? You can get AI to do one, very similar, for what, free to 20$? In the near future, a company could probably get a package, 20 new songs a year to promote their business for $200 a year. I can easily imagine that. Anyway, that's my view on it. There are content music creators that are admitting how afraid they are. But it's rare. That's why I really wanted to speak out and say, Sven, man, wake up. These AI session things are NOTHING. I promise you, within a year, our culture is going to be unrecognisable when it comes to content, ads, entertainment, and music. The history books will be divided like this: Pre-recorded music, Recorded music, AI Music. I think humans will continue to make music, but not to be "rock stars", because it will be taken up by AI - but for personal therapy and exploration, with a few micro fans sharing songs and tips. Not sure where else it can go. Those are my thoughts! You asked for it, ha ha! (Did I write it even? Or was it ChatGPT? HA HA !) I definitely would like to see a follow up video from you in a month or so about this. Do some research as well... I'm sure you will find it as interesting as it is frightening. :)

@@SvenTydemanMusic Just following up and curious of what you think today about this subject?

Thank you! I’ve actually just done two new videos on the chord track editor - including this and also - how you can play your keyboard and in realtime input the chords into chord track! :) warmest

@@SvenTydemanMusic Look forward to them.

They’re in my channel :) This is one that shows you can play in realtime from your keyboard and input chords directly to Chord Yrack

Absolute pleasure! You are welcome 🙏🏻

Great tip!! Thank you :) 🙏🏻

Thank you :) Awesome Kaysha - you’re all over it!!

Unfortunately I don’t believe that works :( would be great if it did though :)

i thought you could...going by the demo play the midi chords while using the midi input function /tab

@@issiewizzie Yes. I forgot internal midi in can do that. Thanks for noticing me.

Yes you can ;) as mentioned above! 👆

Thanks LEGEND! I love it ;) it works for what I do atm!!

Absolute pleasure LEGEND!! I agree that would be fantastic if Apple provide some more functionality re: chord track editor - At least we have a few work arounds :)

I think it absolutely has the potential to mean that everyone will sound the same - however I pondered on your question for a while! Some thoughts: All session Players is essentially, is a tool. With that premise in mind - I am sure it will be overused with like any tool to start with, but is is essentially any different to an Apple Loop? We all use the same 12 notes in a chromatic scale - chord progressions are pretty much similar, etc…but yet we can all still sound vastly different. As I mentioned I think there will be an overuse but then people will just use it like a tool (hopefully). I don’t feel musicians will be out of work either! Just my thoughts :)

@@SvenTydemanMusic I think you're right. I'm just depressed on where music is going or maybe where mainstream music is going. I was writing from a dark place:) Don't wanna spread negativity. Sorry for that. Thanks for your reply.

Oh man you have to apologise! I appreciate that you’re obviously talented, passionate and in touch with your emotions. I’m also grateful you commented - I just wanted to provide a different scope on thinking about it. I’d love to hear your music :) sounds like you got a lot to give people. Warmest

I hear you legend! That would be amazing!

Yeah I hear you! I have been reading about a lot of problems with the update for some users. Everything you’ve mentioned. It really is typical of an update - it seems to take a while for issues to become resolved I am not sure if you update or not form your post and are having issues but if you did then try this for your 3rd party plugin compatibility. It does cost a small amount - I don’t get anything from recommending it - to be completely transparent. Hope you get everything sorted out. apps.apple.com/au/app/pluginfo/id1626412949?mt=12

Hi there :) thanks for the question. I would suggest firstly before updating that you back up a version of your existing logic as a zip file and name it. This way you can always reopen that if you have any issues. I mention a bit about this in a video I’ll post a link below. As far as I can understand - you are supposedly supposed to be able to run Logic Pro 11 on Intel based Macs but without the new functionality.

This video is a first impressions and it shows me backing up at the start of it. Logic Pro 11's A.I. Session Player vs Real-Life Session Musician ruclips.net/video/vRrIss_YIHM/видео.html

Awesome man! Great tip! Thank you 🙏🏻

Just did a video on this 🙏🏻 Play Chords in REAL-TIME from your Keyboard into Chord Track Editor! ruclips.net/video/RkZP0H6tzh0/видео.html

100% agree with you - That would really be awesome!! 👍🏻👍🏻

Play Chords in REAL-TIME from your Keyboard into Chord Track Editor! ruclips.net/video/RkZP0H6tzh0/видео.html

Love it thanks for sharing!!

Thank you for watching IssieWizzie! Love your RUclips name. 👍🏻 happy producing :)

Hi Tom, I completely agree 👍🏻 thank you for watching

Try this Play Chords in REAL-TIME from your Keyboard into Chord Track Editor! ruclips.net/video/RkZP0H6tzh0/видео.html

Hi Kaysha :) glad it helped! That's a great idea, that would be very welcomed if Logic incorporate that with an update!! 👍🏻

@@SvenTydemanMusic Apple always iterate till they reach perfection. It will come

Play Chords in REAL-TIME from your Keyboard into Chord Track Editor! ruclips.net/video/RkZP0H6tzh0/видео.html

There may be other ways, but I don’t think you can drag and drop into the chord track editor. This is definitely useful for those that don’t know the notes in the chords :) it’s good you good a workaround!! 👍🏻👍🏻

Play Chords in REAL-TIME from your Keyboard into Chord Track Editor! ruclips.net/video/RkZP0H6tzh0/видео.html

Thanks legend!

Nice 👍🏻 that’s so good to hear! Its all about the flow :)

@@SvenTydemanMusic indeed!

100% agree! 👍🏻 that would be gold! Are you enjoying the update?

That would be awesome but I’d settle for analyzing what I played and create the chord chart all at once. It already recognizes the chords it should be trivial to eliminate the many steps to get them into the chord chart. But great start.

Play Chords in REAL-TIME from your Keyboard into Chord Track Editor! ruclips.net/video/RkZP0H6tzh0/видео.html

🤣🙏🏻 glad it is useful LEGEND

Awesome! I got this far too. But it’s still very tedious. Apple needs to update it to have a mode that saves the midi chord changes as chord chart.. without having to manually pencil in!!! But this is still incredible nonetheless !!!! Great video

Hi - I completely hear you it would be a real time saver if they incorporate that with an update :)

I have just done a video for you on this ;) ruclips.net/video/XSCyv373Auw/видео.html

Yes.

Great point! It was a first impressions video and try out! I guess I could explore that possibility further in future :) It has some benefits but I still don’t see it (genre and song dependant) replacing any session musician for a final recording :) Have you updated? If so, how are you finding the update? Warmest

That was just a thought about those crazy fills that it was throwing in there. I did update but like you, I’ve only given it a cursory run through and like you, so far I don’t think the AI session players are a replacement for live musicians, so far. Who knows maybe I’ll learn to use the tech more effectively over time. I do see the AI session players as being useful tools for trying out different ideas.

Perhaps you need to select longer sections so Ai has a bigger sample of what you are wanting and keep everything down in simplicity then creep up your needs.

100% agree with you!!

Hi there I’ve been playing with it some more and I do think like “litesirens” said it definitely has a use but it won’t replace session players! I see it more as assisted programming :)

Hi Roman, I hear you it can be frustrating - they’re just making software compatible with the new chips. It does mean that to take advantage of the new features you’d need to upgrade. I guess you can weigh up how important is it to update atm? :)!

Hi, I love Silver Chair and thank you very much for your kind compliment! Silver Chair are/were an icon Aussie band! They have a few documentaries out now about them and Daniel John’s. 👍🏻

Thanks legend! I did change the title as it upset some people originally and I own my initial mistake (that’s where growth happens). Thanks for the kind words man! The Logic Pro 11 update is available for the computer and iPad :) What version are you running now?

@@SvenTydemanMusic I thought it had done an update, but when I checked the applications list it shows an update available. I believe it’s what it was in 2021. Do you advise doing the update or what? My files need to work on my mixers Intel Mac. I know he hasn’t switched yet. 🤣

If it’s working for you now AND you are on Intel - I’d suggest sticking with what you’ve got :) That’s just my recommendation.

Well music taste is completely subjective! We are all unique and I think it’s good celebrate our uniqueness uniquely :) if we all use the same tools the same way we are all going to sound the same :( Thank you for commenting!!

Hi :) thanks for your comment! I hear you and mostly agree!!! I / We use AI in everyday life already. With computers, DAWs to create music, music, transport, etc…so I don’t think technology is bad! We are using it right now to communicate :) The uses of these so called AI Session Players are not bad in and of its self. Like you said…”getting down ideas…may be ok”. But this update doesn’t replace the need for actual musicianship. Actually in a sense I think there is a greater call now to hone your craft in songwriting and musicianship and the opportunity to be different by being a great songwriter / artist :) At one stage of my career I used to tune every vocal perfectly, it got to a point where I CRAVED hearing a normal vocal that wasn’t perfect. Man I was silly 😂 So now I tune, only if needed, certain notes to keep the integrity of the performance - of course that is subjective and will change greatly depending on the genre! I also agree that without manipulating the sound in serving the song - then these AI tools (I don’t even think they’re AI to be honest) will sound generic. Just some thoughts :)

@@SvenTydemanMusic Very well said!!! Although I'm 40 bollll I listen to a lot of old music mostly Gospel,Jazz and Love Songs. I even watched a Steely Dan documentary and they talked about the AJA album. If not mistaken I think Michael on "Peg" did some kinda off thing with his pitch but it played out for the song. Also throughout various Genres people have allowed the songs to do what it did and it came out good!! So much to say but may things help and add to our human creativity to see what happens from there!! I will watch more of your videos thanks for everything!!!

Thanks LEGEND!

Hi Rafael, how did you go? Is it up and working yet? Did you back up?

Hi Steven, Yes I have a back up, also East West Opus orchestra is not working, I try Diva and it work. I think I will roll back. Thanks