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I love how people keep coming in here thinking they are dumbing stuff down for me, and they don't even understand what a paragraph is... Go back to school man. You have much larger problems than defending random internet personalities. If this was the editor's fault then that editor should be fired for posting up this video to begin with. The video is trash and the rant is nothing more than someone who doesn't understand game development whining about things he doesn't like and doesn't understand. Literally none of his video was really helpful and was all doom and gloom. He spends a few seconds at the beginning of the video saying that the game might be good and then proceeds to spend the rest of the 15 minutes trash talking the game. It is a mixed signal. I think this thing is good but here's all the reasons I hate it... Also your opinion on if PoE 2 is a great game or not doesn't matter in the long term of things. PoE 2 hit double the highest recorded number of players that PoE 1 ever had in it's first month and still retains more than half of the highest number of players PoE 1 ever had. PoE 2 is already successful and it's literally in early access...The game is unfinished and honestly probably only about 20% done and you doom and gloom chumps are acting like it's the worst game that ever existed. Take the lame attitude back to PoE 1 where it belongs. That is the game for you guys. PoE 2 isn't the game for you currently and may never be. It's not meant to replace PoE 1, it is meant to be a different game at this point. Learn to live with that fact....

Also I'd like to point out that I'm not the only one that thinks he went WAY overboard with his doom and gloom attitude on PoE 2. Just look at some of the other react videos to the one that Ben posted.

I'm going to say starting out I only skimmed this because you clearly don't understand how paragraphs work and this is letter soup and not worth reading. What I DID pick up from this is that you really have no idea what you are talking about. You don't seem to understand anything about my progress in the game or what I've been playing which is the first thing I noticed that makes everything you said pretty much invalid. The second thing is half the shit you are talking about has already been fixed or had MASSIVE improvements to them. Based on what you are saying it sounds like you played the games for 2 weeks, cried about it and quit playing and don't even understand the current state of the game is. I haven't had anything rush me and glue me to the front of them in like 2 weeks. Yeah that was a problem previously but doesn't appear to be a problem anymore. Devs aren't going to spend an insane amount of time trying to balance things that they haven't even completed yet. Half the current classes in the game still have "coming soon" listed on some of their skills. Why would you balance skills just to add more skills and have to rebalance again? You clearly don't understand the process for software design. In addition, you talk about classes single clicking act bosses and such. You apparently don't understand the definition of "single" clicking. One click means one click. Most of the act bosses have phases which can't be skipped. If you go out and watch videos of people 1 shotting bosses, it's stuff like floor bosses in Trials or tiny bosses that have no phases. Show me how you can 1 shot crowbell. Stop being a child and understand that you've lost this conversation and take the L. I'm not aware of anything I said to be untrue. Just because you can't admit that 1 click isn't 1 click is a you problem. Also if you feel the need to puke letters onto the screen again be sure to understand I won't bother reading it. You don't have to indent paragraphs if you don't want, but you really need to learn how to use the enter button dude...

@@RagingRashaka ruclips.net/video/49yKGuo9KAs/видео.htmlsi=DsRANwQHWbqdoyH6

@@voidbunny7313 I get that you posted this up. I watched the start and then skipped through the rest since it mostly seems to be a recap of the patch and how it affected this build. I still haven't seen a single act boss that was 1 clicked...I didn't even see an act boss in there. Honestly I only saw a T4 breach boss which only has 1 phase. So my argument still stands true. You can't 1 click act bosses or any boss with multiple phases...

@@voidbunny7313 ALso to be fair. I can basically do the same thing with my archmage build. When you start talking about classes being too powerful that literally have sub 1 second differences in kill times doesn't really mean much. The game is designed to be a god when you get towards the end. Maybe this one can do it a lot sooner. This doesn't mean that they developers don't know this information already. They have stuff set up in order to be able to see what kind of damage people are doing. Also just because you see that it is massive damage and should be easily fixed doesn't really mean it is a simple fix. Obviously they tried to fix it in 0.1.1c and failed thus it wasn't an easy fix.. That doesn't mean the game sucks and that people shouldn't play it. Which is pretty much exactly what Ben was saying...

@ No one said “don’t play it”. First thing he says is “Yes, it’s undoubtedly going to be better soon, but at this moment experience is far from desired”. First thing you say is insulting his manner of speech and proclaim it a rage bait with your famous “doesn’t know what he’s talking about”. Only then you proceed to talk about the topic and give arguments. That’s not the basic respect that you talk with people. You gave me the same treatment a moment ago and I’m both scenarios my impression about you being bad. That’s my point that your missing again and again going into details about what is and what’s not a “one click”. If I click mouse one time and everything is dead that’s a one click. If I laugh at someone’s speech and nervous tone of voice one minute into the video that’s insult. With arguments that you have your empathy, self awareness and common sense is somehow lacking. You either criticise someone based on facts and arguments or you insult them. The moment you do so people should stop listening to what you have to say. I gave your video and comments full attention no matter how I felt. Learn to do the same before replying and insulting others. Treat people with respect and kindness if you want the same for yourself. There’s nothing wrong with being emotional. There is nothing wrong with voicing things that were already said and known. There is, however, when you make fun of someone for being nervous on camera. What a little insignificant thing to focus attention of your viewers on. If you don’t know something or you haven’t seen someone pull the thing your talking about - your response should end on “I haven’t experienced or seen it”, instead of finishing with “so that means this person doesn’t know what are they talking about”. None of your other comments bothered with paragraphs and you didn’t bother them with this. It’s common to write this way in the internet. Especially in RUclips comments. Don’t read it if you don’t want to. The whole point is that you spend more than an hour on what seems like a well thought through video response, yet the first minute already makes me feel bad from how you behave. Shame that so much work and public image goes to waist. Be better.

How is this literally any different from PoE 1? I've played Venom Gyre builds that could clear an entire map in seconds and you basically never saw a creature on the screen because not only were you screen clearing you were also clearing things off screen as well. What about the old golem minion builds where you went into a boss room and died and then just watched your minions kill the boss for you? We could honestly sit here and talk about every single season that has ever been released in PoE 1 and find screen clearing builds that are extremely broken and usually only require 1-2 items to actually make the build work and nothing else is really ever needed because killing something in 3 billionths of a second doesn't really need to be upgraded to killing them in 1 billionth of a second. This still doesn't change the fact that he was whining in his video about bugs in the game when he made his video which were fixed in the 0.1.1 patch which took place weeks before he posted this video. I apologize if I struck a nerve showing what a moron this guy looks like for saying the things that he's saying which are 100% untrue as of the time that he posted the video, but I guess people are more concerned with their random idols on the internet than the truth at hand.

I guess I'm confused. Are you referring to my video being a troll job or Ben's? I would agree if you are talking about his. My video is just reacting to his because his clearly sends out an extremely poor message to people who haven't played the game before and was a pretty hot take on a lot of bugs and issues that had been fixed before his video was even made. Not to mention whining about them not working on the game during a 2 week holiday break.

@ definitly yours

I think that is what some people don't seem to understand. I also find it interesting that you are speaking on behalf of veteran players considering I played PoE 1 within weeks of launch and have revisited the game for many of the seasons the started coming out afterwards and I don't share that opinion in the least. That game was a hot mess when it first came out and easily 100 times worse than PoE 2 was when it launched. The game is in early access and isn't even 50% complete. It is also NOT PoE 1 which people just don't seem to get either. You don't have to like PoE 2 if you liked PoE 1. They've stated they will be running both games at the same time which means it is 100% senseless to make the game identical. The end game is unfinished and thrown together in a month compared to the years they have put into the first 3 acts... It wasn't intended to be finished and balanced. It was intended to give people something to do during the holidays while they were on break because they knew people were excited to play the game and would beat the campaign in a few hours or few days and would then have nothing to do.

@@RagingRashaka I am not claiming to speak on behalf of every veteran PoE player, I am merely trying to bring some perspective to as what MANY content creators are saying as well as how I and my friends who are PoE veterans are also feeling... That is not the same as saying EVERYONE feels that way.. My point being in regards to PoE 2, that why not take the very good systems from PoE 1 and implement into PoE 2, heck even make them better.. what they have done is take the good systems of PoE 1 and put them in 2 but made them worse or an older implementation of it.. I know it shouldn't be the same game, and I sure as hell hope they won't be however, I feel like their is a lot of lackluster solutions to fx. craftng, endgame, progression, skill system etc. that just makes it feel aweful.. I think people are allowed to have opinions of that and to expect more from a game company with 12-13 years of experience from this franchise and game genre... I know everything is subject to change, but if people don't state their concerns and opinions on the current iteration of the game, how are they ever gonna make it better??

@@SkillsBeyond What systems are you referencing? If you are talking about end game concepts like breaches, ritual alters, mapping etc etc they have already claimed they built that entire system in like 30 days and that it was very lack luster and will be iterated on a lot before launch. Other than that I'm not really sure what other systems from PoE 1 you are talking about. I agree that the systems I've mentioned here need work if those are also the ones you are talking about but my whole point is that they know this and they've known it since before the launched it and they even told us so why are people holding that against them? There are a lot of changes coming to it and this has been stated. It's just kind of pointless for someone to make a video whining about things that are known issues by the company and deterring people from picking up the game and supporting the company over issues that the company is aware of and have already stated that they plan to fix. Everyone keeps parroting that he isn't saying he doesn't like the game but he has basically 1-2 nice things to say in his video about the game and then proceeds to bitch about how he doesn't like it for 14 and a half minutes. What do you think the outcome of that is to people who either haven't played the game or are this guy's diehard fans and are easily influenced by his comments? I'm all for people making their case about things they are and aren't happy with but they should educate themselves and not overflow the comments with stuff that has already been asked and answered by GGG. Also on top of that this guy felt the need to include 5 plus minutes of his 15 minute video complaining about things that were fixed in a patch weeks ago. If that isn't the definition of disconnected then I don't know what is....

I would agree with this. My first character was a bombard minion build. I ended up switching to another character around 90 because dying due to your minions getting stuck somewhere and them not following you was really annoying. They've posted a few patches trying to address this issue but I haven't gone back to the minion build to see if it is any better. The Archmage build is doing a lot better currently but it still seems a little broken. It's hard to say if this is the power level they expect people to be at the end game considering I've played PoE 1 builds that were way more powerful. Top end Venom Gyre build comes to mind out of recent things I've played.

I NEED someone to do a full react to this. I'm losing my mind about how bad this is.

@ He just did, what are you on about.

@@NneonNTJ not Ben's video. This video here.

I couldn't finish it. He just kept calling everything baseless, and bullshit. I found it insulting to Ben's experience and PoE 1 player's perspective. It felt too out of touch and contrarian just for the sake of his dislike for the valid criticisms that were given. 3/4 of the way through and I can't... I just can not listen to more of this degrading and seemingly charged attack. I really wanted to hear his side, but this is a bit much.

@ i watched the whole thing based on the fact that i couldnt stop laughing, half way through i honestly thought it was intentionally comedic

Now dropped to 80k

@weiantan5098 24hr peak. No one cares what it is minute to minute. People sleep and work. Chinese dont have PoE2 on steam.

That's kind of the point that I'm making in the video. The game is good and all these streamers need to stop whining about the game because they clearly don't understand development cycles or they simply just don't like the game and need to move on to something else instead of whining about a game who's peak usage is 2x the peak usage of PoE 1.

It's really mostly some vocal hardcore PoE1 players who are upset GGG is focusing on the new game and took a break from updating PoE1. Many hardcore PoE1 vets don't trust GGG and seem to think they are the ones solely responsible for PoE1 success, and not GGG.

@ that makes a lot of sense because yeah the Ben guy was not really making sense and seeming to be kinda just irrationally negative

@@habilis999 Honestly this was my argument. He didn't really seem to have a coherent thought process, a lot of which is probably due to editing but you still have to own up to how you come off, even if you aren't the editor of your videos. I personally think the game is great. I'm around 300 hours played since it came out and thousands of hours in PoE 1. I personally think PoE 2 is already a superior game and will only continue to get better as time goes on. They have a lot of plans for the game and we are like what? 6 weeks since launch? I think things will be fine if people leave them alone long enough to finish the planned content and then work on bugs and balance....

I wonder if there are a lot of players like myself who really liked the campaign and thought there was going to be more acts and when we found out we were going to have to grind the same acts all over again we left.

@@habilis999 That is possibly true. The game also does have a rather limited life span as well. I'm about to start my 3rd character because I've kind of run out of things to do. This isn't a real season, it's only early access with limited content and they've already said that they are going to do a seasonal system for early access which means soon all these characters are basically gone and we'll have to start again on new content. I'd guess that is more responsible for what has caused the decline in play. Not to mention that several good games have come out recently and people always want to play the new hotness..

It's astonishing how brain rotted this dude is.

More like HasBen am I right

@@bpusefno, you're not

@ not close

The end game isn't finished. There are 3 more acts of the game to be completed which will yield more tile sets for maps to fill the gaps. I have hundreds of hours in this game already and can not agree that those 2 maps are 50% or even 20% of the maps that I run. The nodes placed on your map are done randomly and are 100% different from other people's map. I haven't had the same experience you've had. That doesn't mean that it is acceptable for some of the maps to randomly generate that way and I'm sure it is something they will work on after they have more tile sets to work with. In a development it is pointless to iterate on something like this when all of the data isn't there because they will end up having to do it again later which means wasted time. I honestly find it very sad that the number of people who play video games have little to no understanding of how games are made and what goes into making them.

im glad i scrolled down in the comments, i was gonna write the same thing

The comment about him watching some of my videos was obviously a joke, if you didn't get that I don't know what to tell you. If you aren't using broken mechanics in the game then the warrior IS a shit build. The fact that you'd use a game breaking build and then whine about how the game plays and that you can't improve your character anymore because you took a couple of low level easy to get items that caused a game breaking effect it just stupid.. Dude is clearly unhappy with the game and doesn't understand gave development in the least and needs to stop trash talking and trying to turn people away from the game just because he doesn't like it. He can go back to playing PoE 1.

@RagingRashaka he is just giving his subjective opinions about the game. A lot of his criticisms are valid. If you don't agree with them, that's fine. We are all entitled to our opinions. I also like poe2 but there are several things I'd like to see addressed, some of which Ben brings up. This is early access and now is the time for feedback. Ggg wants this type of feedback and have historically shown they listen to the community and try to make the best game possible

Not sure. We have been beta testing leagues for poe2 in the past 2 years. Almost everything was ported over

i couldnt agree more

The whole point of making a new game is not to just copy your old game.

You are an idiot lol that is not how game development or coding works , Working on say lawn mower motors for 10 years does not qualify you AT ALL to work on a jet engine now does it . Poe2 team was hired en masse a new batch of people under the perview of Tencent the new owners . The difference between 1 and 2 basic programing to do the same basic things is night and day difference on entirely different codebase , engine . I am honestly so god dan tired of how stupidly ignorant gamers are these days . the entire point of poe2 is NOT TO BE POE1 , I have 8642 hours into poe1 and i was done with it , it got old , it was a cluttered mess in serious need of serious recoding and work needed to fix the blot and the game was never a real success . News flash a Chinese company can only buy a NZ company if it is circling the drain according to laws and trade agreements . It is no secret GGG spent years begging for investors and finally found one in Tencent . It is time to move forward , look at how much they care about poe1 atm at the company , new league when lolol ? toxic little basement dwellers thinking they are king when gaming is an industry of numbers not what people think of the games. I'm at 410 hours on poe2 and it is alot more enjoyable , the game is incomplete and mapping is frankly boring and poorly executed so I went back to D4 till there is more to do and I even spent my 99 to get the cool Lightning skin with the floaters lol

Exactly what I am thinking as well!

I could see how what you are describing would be boring, and I guess at the end of the day it all depends on your opinion of what using your full skill set means. I'm currently playing an archmage build in which I have 7 skills slotted. 1 of them is run by cast on shock so I don't really have to press any buttons for that but the other 6 I have to manually use, and I use them constantly. So I'm not sure which build you were using where you are only doing 1 or 2 skills, but I'm not having the same experience with this build. I could see how the minion builds could go this route though. My bombard minion build was pretty boring. There are some spells in the game which are really only useful for killing a boss, like offerings for example or mana tempest. Stationary buffs basically which have little use with the rate at which these classes can screen clear. I'm sure there are many broken builds in the game that aren't working well or that don't have a lot of supporting skills and hopefully they will address this as time moves on, but there are a lot of other things behind the scenes for them to be working on currently such as getting the other classes in the game which will also add more skills into the game, and then they can work more on skill balance.

There's quite a lot surprisingly, mostly PoE1 veterans. The vast majority of PoE players love 2 though.

Don’t think that’s accurate.

@@NneonNTJ You are very right that there are a lot of PoE 1 players who are very unhappy with PoE 2. They seriously need to just get over themselves. I saw someone post earlier too that PoE 2 had lost most of it's player base... Just another point where people don't understand statistics or like to just say stuff to try and turn the data into something that supports their opinion. A quick jump over to steamdb.info will quickly show that PoE 2 had an all time high of 578k players, while PoE 1 only hit 229k. Even in the past 24 hours there were 132k players on PoE 2, which is more than half of the all time highest ever recorded for PoE 1 and is roughly 13 times the number of people playing PoE 1 in the same 24 hour window... That same 229k players high was at the beginning of settlers of kalgur, which was probably due to the PoE 2 hype train. It was the reason I went back to play settlers. Two months after settler's launch the player base had dropped down to 63.7k players. I honestly think there are far less players that don't like it than those that do. Which is the whole reason I decided to use the title that I did. It gets attention.

To be fair it was meant to be sarcasm. I don't personally think very many people hate PoE 2. Actually the entire video if you've watched it is a defense of the game against a loud mouthed streamer who wants to use his influence to bash a perfectly good early access game. I probably should have named the video, why do so many streamers hate PoE 2 which would have removed the sarcasm since that is more difficult to extrapolate from a title.

Yeah, he's not alone with these opinions though. Which is why I felt the need to react to it. lol

@@RagingRashaka fair point on some issues he brought up but it's early access. and him comparing poe2 to a well established game like poe1 just makes it worse.

@@leiyoh3311 Yeah. I 100% agree. It's dumb to try and compare the game to PoE 1 and 10 years of iteration against a game that's honestly not even 50% complete yet.

@@RagingRashaka yes....ALOT of people feel this way

It is a fun build.

Thanks for the correction. I haven't done Audience with the King yet so didn't realize that was a static drop.

☝🤓 "PSA on the misinformation"

@ Only something i learnt reacently after the rage gaming mentioned it too. Overall good video. this was just a small part of it. good content dude.

Thanks. I try not to post information that is incorrect if I'm aware of it at the time.

Thanks! Glad someone shares similar insight. I was really doing this to just try to shed some more light on exactly what was going on here. There is a lot of drama surrounding this and I thought it would be good for some publicity for the channel and since I used to raid lead for years I enjoy doing this sort of breakdown because I had to do this for my raid team previously and I kind of miss doing this sort of thing.

@@RagingRashaka Absolutely, it makes a difference to have somebody with your level of experience really analyse it and explain what is happening - even though that level of analysis by the players in that moment wouldn't have been possible Dire maul north can be easy, but that can also change in a split second. It must have been really difficult for the whole team to know what to do in that moment, specially with the pressure of hardcore. I feel kind of sorry for the flack Pirate has been getting.

Hey, thanks! I did try to word the tags with this in mind. Trying to learn how to get myself out there more. There is a lot of drama surrounding this so I knew it would get some attention after it got a little traction. I wanted to do this video because I have played a ton of wow over the years and I was seeing stuff that others weren't talking about so I thought it would be a good video for finding some new people.... even if most of them hate my view point and opinions... lol.

What exactly was stupid about the video? Or did you watch the first 5 minutes and get upset? 😂

Yep, I'm seeing a lot of these videos pop up on youtube where people are analyzing the pull and going "hey wait a minute, the bad pull wasn't his fault!". Yeah it wasn't. People in the guild knew that immediately, there was no deep analysis needed for that. Thinking it's about the blame on the pull is completely missing the point. Everyone else is staying and trying to help everyone get out safe, only one of them is roaching out and choosing and even refusing to help, and lies about it: Pirate. That's what people confronted him about and criticized him for. Then he started attacking his guildies and threatening to report people who were making content out of it.

@@mvprime8 Except the rogue literally did nothing the entire time except for attempting to blind a boss which isn't possible, right before the surviving 3 left the zone. So Yama was literally the exact same help as Pirate as far as "help" was concerned and then he was whining over comms pretty much the whole time. I also pointed out at the end of the video that I don't understand exactly what Pirate was doing when he was just hanging out by the zone in and didn't come back at that point to drop a single blizzard or anything. However the analysis was due to them talking after the deaths happened and Yama was 100% blaming the entire thing on Pirate which was 100% invalid. Eighty percent of the problem was due to failure on pulls and failure to have reasonable situational awareness on behalf of the group. Personally I think Pirate's attitude was probably along the lines of, "Screw these guys they suck anyway." I assume he just didn't want to say something along those lines because he was streaming live and doing a charity event for Humane Society and that is usually in bad taste to have a big drama fest while running an event.

There were a ton of people blaming Pirate, if you watch the original video from Yama's stream he literally blames the entire thing on Pirate and said it was all his fault. He was mad at the time, sure but that got the ball rolling and tons of people started the blame game after that. I'm not defending Pirate directly. I was just pointing out all the flaws in the entire run so people could be more educated about the situation since it seems so many people had the wrong idea. I find the fact that he didn't come back and help at the very end after he seemed to realize that he had a mana stone a little strange... I mean he was close to the zone out at that point and could have just dropped another blizzard and then split... It's also strange that he didn't even bother to say, "Hey, sorry that you guys died. I didn't realize I had a mana stone until I was at the zone out." or something along those lines.... The healer played really well from what I could tell and it's a shame that they lost their character. I don't really feel bad for the druid though. As bad as he played there it was only a matter of time before he lost his character.

@@RagingRashaka yama didnt blame it all on pirate at all, he was angry at him yes and put some blame on him but pirate wasnt willing to hear any criticism from anyone and left the call, yama did try and speak with him again later, everyone else in the group said they made mistakes and were just upset there was no accountability from pirate, the problem wasnt that he roached its that he is unwilling to ever say yeah my bad i freaked out and ran all he had to do was say that and there would of been no issue, but he doubled down then just kept going because he couldnt let his ego get hurt

@@RagingRashaka you just don't seem to get it. Rogue is trying to help. He does a poor job of it, but at least he is trying and is not abandoning the group. No one cares if you play badly. Your guildies will care if you just abandon the group, lie about your resources, just let people die, then you don't even show any empathy, just start immediately blaming everyone else in the group. That's what the rogue was reacting to strongly, he frankly couldn't believe the way pirate was acting towards the others. Sounds like you are just taking the gaslighting comments from pirate ("they put the entire blame on me") and just believing them at face value. I guess that's why he just lies lies lies so much about everything, because people like you fall for his lies no question. That is actually hilarious btw, presenting the Humane Society, then acting like a completely toxic human being to the people you are supposed to be in collaboration with. People just can't hide their true nature forever.

You don't have to play on a hardcore server in order to understand the game. It is moronic limited thinking like this that has caused the drama around this subject as it is. As I very clearly stated in the video I don't agree with the fact that Pirate basically didn't do anything and could have done a lot more to help out, but I also clearly stated and showed with evidence that the majority of the problem from this group stemmed from the idiot druid that was in there and the tank that has no idea how to pull packs as well as the rogue who also literally did nothing to help out and just whined the whole time.

@@RagingRashaka most hilarious shit is that druid is supposedly some hot shot pro pvp DURID kek

@ Yeah I could tell you don't play the game, all good.

@@BillRevis Why do you keep liking all your own posts? That the only way you can get validation for yourself? I literally show video and give exact commentary on what is going on. Everything that I said can be seen IN the video in which we are responding on so everything I've said is 100% backed up. You basically just come in here and cry because you can't handle the facts that are shown in the video. GG scrub. People love click bait like this though. You are literally arguing against facts here. Way to show the entire world that you've no idea what you are talking about...

@@Intedujag Just playing devil's advocate here but a lot of pvp and pve skills don't really cross well. Like I said previously I have no idea about any of these guy's pasts or their skill levels in the game. I just called it how the video showed it. I don't usually expect people who are great and PvP to be good at PvE and vice versa. So maybe this guy really is good at PvP and by the looks of it he should probably do more PvP and less PvE. Thanks for the reply though and also good on you for not liking your own post like Bill does...

28 hour bronto tames!