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Wood elves are my favourite. If Ikit and Morghur behave I'll go kill Kemmler. Otherwise.... they're first. If you have any tips or tricks, would greatly appreciate them!

@@the13thwarrior8 You can on Turn 1 join wars for other order factions like Reikland and Wissenland, etc for money. Added to the money from the two first battles, this can give you enough to recruit a Lord on T1, upgrade Waterfall Palace and then a tun of so later upgrade The Oak and keep your troops upgraded. After taking out Paravon I usually hit Massif Orcal and de-fang Grom before he gets out of hand. You can raise Orcal for BIG money and leave the ruin for Fey Enchantress. Really that area has so many variables. If Grom or Kemmler role high potential they spam units like mad on Legendary, and if Grom gets potential AND Waagh... Best to take hm out ASAP.

You are right to go for the Branch Wraith building T2 ASAP to get Treekin. If you can get a wraith with the mini mortis engine, so much the better. Don't forget the first 3-pointer in the Blue Line massively buffs gold from battles and I think raising (?)

Yeah, I have a tonne of Murder of Spites Branchwraiths, though most of them are malevolent. And while they're Wood Elf, I try to keep to only the normal ones unless I'm playing as Drycha. Bit of role playing. Good tip on the remote wars!! Advice greatly appreciated.

Ok. Now I may have to retry. My play through started before 5.2, so I don't think I got the real story. I appreciate your comment because now I'm intrigued. Is your setting VH/VH?

@@the13thwarrior8 Yeah VH/VH. Fair warning though, but I've never been good at total war games, so I might struggle more than most players. But in my defense, I did hear from the SFO mod team that they did some digging into the Ai changes for this current patch, and the Ai cheats are crazier than ever. They've practically got free global recruitment and zero upkeep costs. Their technology research is also all free and takes half the normal time to finish researching. 😂😂It's rough out there on the higher difficulties. Even LegendofTotalWar's Dwarf campaign had some rough spots due to the patch 5.2 ai updates.

I did watch that Belegar Campaign. That was ROUGH. But that's what we want, we want a challenge. Maybe not the crazy 5-full stacks spam of WHII, but definitely More.

@@the13thwarrior8 Well here is an update on my current playthrough since following you for the first 20 turns. I'm 47 turns in and pretty much the whole of Lustria is under control and the war with the skaven clans and vampire pirates has come to a sweet end. The key to beating the updated Ai now is to be really aggressive. As soon as you let them build up their armies for a few turns, things get pretty scary really fast.

@angrydude675 Great news! Appreciate that update. Ppl have commented that 30 turns in things can go really nasty. Was being aggressive something you had not been doing before? That's the huge change from WHII, where you sat on a sack city leveling your Lord.

I agree that it's the best overhaul. It's so professionally done. And it's just so immense. I wish I could afford the time and expense of tabletop!

That sounds like a great mod. Thanks

Feed it!

Yeah. I knew someone was going to be happy. Drop me tips if you have them. I know nothing about lizards!

Hi @OlivePeel. Do you have a couple of favourites, or a couple of factions you know well? They can be good to begin with because you'll go into the game knowing where the differences are. If not, High Elves are always good for beginning, so Tyrion is a recommendation. Or Elspeth for the Empire.

@@the13thwarrior8 I've mostly played cathay and the empire, so I'll probably try out Elspeth 🙂

Good! Pay most attention to the building changes, growth, industry, when and where you recruit heroes.

You're welcome. I'm enjoying them.

Thanks. Normally you can get along with the Lizards. And you can use them to support you, but this time, wow, Khalida nailed them.

It has, and whilst I've been playing SFO, which people recommended to reduce this, it doesn't really help.

Hey, and thanks for the questions. 1.) I did not see Teclis miscast during the game I played with him. I saw Eltharion miscast a LOT, and Cavill, too. In my Gelt campaign he also has the mastery Teclis has, and he hasn't miscast in that game. And I have seen the mages miscast, so I do believe the reduction is working. 2.) That's a good point. But I have had Khaine's Ring of Fury before in WHIII, used it as Eltharion, for example, and it had the windup. But it's entirely possible that a reduction in the wind up time has been added to the game by CA with no news or reflection of that. Not everything makes it into the patch notes. I do have both spells, now, on Teclis, and I can check! 3. ) See 2.) I can look, now, since I have both. 4.) The Invocation of Isha is how I get over the Chaos Wastelend effects. It eliminates all corruption for ten turns. But it does have a very long cooldown. So, you have to get in and get the job done.

@@the13thwarrior8 With the wind-up thing, I don't know if it's different in vanilla but I was talking about SFO. I think your other experience was in vanilla.

I have to say, I resisted playing the Empire for ALL of WHII. Never played them. Once I started... I love them, and Helstorms are the main reason.

They are a very easy faction to steamroll with, and let's face it, that artillery and powder... so much fun to use!! I'll be looking at them this week.

You are totally correct, here. There are many of those battles where you don't want to fight, but you want that leader. Thee are mods that increase your chance of capture in auto resolve, but I've not used them.

Sorry I didn't record the first part. I was just trying to get to where I could do a comparison, but things went really well!

Glad you think so!

@Floris_VI thank you much appReciated!!!

Made some changes, if you have a chance to listen, please let me know if it sounds improved.

You know, I LOVE Teclis. But his campaign is so hard and such a grind, but I really am interested in what his resawrch and skill line have become, so... probably?

​@@the13thwarrior8 This is a bit late but I used to use a mod (which does work with SFO) that allows Teclis to assume control of Saphery once he acquires 6 settlements. Sort of like Caledor's deal. I wouldn't call it balanced given SFO gives Teclis the tome buffs, but it makes it waaaay less of a grind for him, or rather, it makes it a more dynamic two-front campaign and allows an early foothold on Ulthuan.

Hey, that's appreciated. I've also considered the mods that let you change start location.

It's a personal preference isn't it? And we're spoiled since Warhammer II where we had no idea what the unit losses might be. One of the concerns is that the game is easier, far easier, and that the need to reduce casualties or turn defeat into a win is lessened. It's human nature to click auto when the fight is Yet Another Win, whereas in WHII the occasion of a simple, easy victory with few casualties that would replenish over the end turn is reduced.

@@the13thwarrior8 Game 2 is more challenging, especially on the strategic level, but... I've tried going back to game 2 and then I see the AI that only owns one minor settlement somehow support 4 full stack armies that it can recruit/replenish in one turn and I leave in disgust.

Ain't that the truth. I couldn't go back.

Thank you!

Thank you!

They'll get what they deserve.

Yes! Going to do the factions I know well.

The AI is almost certainly the root of the problem. And its chicken beahviour. It runs from fights or doesn't coalesce, allowing you to take it piece by piece.

yeah I think the AI not making armies you WANT to fight against is a huge chunk of the issue - another chunk of it is most fights in the game will be at least 20 v 20 - and unless you've got multiple armies you enjoy using, and consistently get enemy armies you enjoy using them against, you'll also end up auto resolving just to avoid tedious seeming match ups. I think part of the auto resolve issue is also because theory crafting has become such a compelling aspect of the game that often a player is going into a campaign with the aim to try out a particular army comp with their LL and to see it running with all their buffing skills and techs up and running - this often means you kind of want to rush through early game to get to a stage of the campaign where you finally have the army you actually want to play with. But sods law is your LL is now 10 turns in the opposite direction of your military recruiting areas, and you'll seldom ever get around to actually making that army you wanted to play with until the campaign is basically won (steamroll reached) and now it feels arbitrary.

@@the13thwarrior8 AI running from fights is definitely one of the biggest problems. Theyre willing to give up settlements in a row, a capital, even their last goddamn city to flee and live *one more turn* just to annoy you, the player. They were annoying coward little beastmen in Wh2 too, but I never saw them give up their last city to run. SFO does something about that by making force march needing more thought and it doesnt double movement, and eventually no armies can run from you with all your campaign movement bonuses. But you said why youre no fan of it, fair enough. And I dont think SFO is balanced for legendary anyway.

The forced march requirement in SFO catches me out often. And AI behaviour is still very cowardly, as you say, vacating their last city to preserve their army. I have been playing it, but I do not find it more of a challenge. But very cool in many ways.

Wow, this is an absolutely fabulous response, and I wish I had read out those first two paragraphs in the video!!! Thank you for this contribution. So, do you think it's a case of coding, CA just don't put enough effort into the AI decision trees?

That was how it was in Warhammer 2. I think it told you if you'd win, but not how many units would die or get eliminated. Like the diplomacy, you had to make offers and never knew if it was fruitless if the AI didn't accept. Been 2 years since I played it, so...

That's just going to be annoying though in the late game when or when you end up getting steam rolled. You are also just going to be sick of fighting battles if you play as a faction who has to deal with enemies on all sides like Eltharion.

@@d.n5287 Exactly. Many of the changes to WHII moving into WHIII were quality of life. For example, as Teclis, the chaos invasion spawned 5-6 armies every few turns right off the coast of Lustria, making the late game a ridiculous, tedious exercise in manually fighting hordes of chaos forces. Knowing the autoresolve issue makes that sort of nonsense go away.

That I totally understand. I used to go get a drink, food, bathroom, during load times. Now I can barely get time to glance at my phone. If you're loading 2-3 minutes for a 5 minute fight....But 8-15? Auto All of them. If you have the opportunity to upgrade, and play as much as I do (30 hours a week) it's so worth it.

storing this game on an SSD instead of a HDD is a must. it will cut the load times from minutes down to seconds.

Dude that's not a lack of top of the line gamer PC, that's using computer hardware from 2014. I can only imagine what your End Turn timers are like.

I upgrade this past year specifically to be able to play at 2016 even while recording/streaming. I had a modern PC but with underpowered hardware, for THAT. Playing at 1080 is certainly doable with an SSD without idiotic load times. BU the end turn wait? Yeah.... :D

I used to be a big online competitor. I do enjoy watching PvP. Turin and Human-boy's channels are superb. But online, lag, I don't do that any more. Those are also not the same thing as the game's combat.

The point here is that the game doesn't incentivise fighting them. A large number of battles are walkovers or decisive defeats. Not going to fight those. But many are just not fun. If you watch then entire video... (ahem) you'll see me talk about how I'm going to intentionally fight more. And don't look at this just as Oh, I didn't have to fight! It's also letting others see the issue. The game is devolving into a strategic exercise, with less need for fighting, on the HARDEST LEVEL.

@@the13thwarrior8 a rank 9 unit will always easily defeat garrison unit. Most of the armies fights are worth the fight or still a walkover if the faction gets recked.

@@FakeMoons are they though? If there's no challenge, it can be fun to see the animations and the cool weapons. But fights that have absolutely nothing at stake and are just a few minutes of click and kill are not inspirational, interesting or exciting. To me.

It's not really unbalanced or buggy. It just plays the battle out as if it were AI vs AI. It's giving you a look at what the outcome of an AI vs AI battle would be. As a player playing not exploiting, you can usually beat the AI in a real battle easily with minimal casualties. In Warhammer, if you want to cheese, you can frequently win battles the AI would lose, without taking a single casualty. I will often play the first one or two battles, and then auto-resolve the majority of the rest, only taking big battles, or cool battles. In a lot of ways this increases the longevity of the campaign, and maintains some semblance of challenge into the mid game. Yea, I could manually play every single N'kari battle, take 0 casualties in every battle because you solo every army with N'kari, and conquer half of the donut by turn 10. At which point I may as well play someone else, because I've blitzed the hardest part of the campaign. Had no truly interesting battles to fight, and from here it's just a slog because nothing is left that is challenging.

I just kind of looked the the numbers out of curiosity. I had no idea it was so lopsided. So since then I've been intentionally playing more battles. Like the Elspeth campaign, where the gunpowder units are such fun. I almost ALWAYS fight more battles as Eltharion, because I love the character, and love double teaming enemy lords with him and a hero. I haven't played N'Kari, I'm not a fan of the daemon factions. But I really should. I recently got the Chaos Dwarfs, and just don't enjoy them.

Do you mean to say you manually fight every battle?

yea but this sucks too. There's no way you fight every minor settlement manually that has 7 units with your late game 20 stacks right? Do you just never play late?

@@lucnederhof2107 I might fight one if I want to see a rally cool unit do really cool things, otherwise...

I've so many hours in that SFO is like a new game. I don't like a lot of the units it includes and I find it doesn't have better AI, just tougher opponents. I have tried that and Radius a few times. The Old World mod, though, that one I do enjoy.

@@the13thwarrior8 SFO has customizable options, one allows you to disable SFO-specific units. The customizable options are a superb addition to SFO. But even SFO can't save the AI in this game, it's just poor and it has been for ages. I'm glad autoresolving isn't AS punishing as it used to, which just forced you to fight boring battles as most battles are just that - repetitive and boring.

@akaon666 I really appreciate that tip! For example, I think the Dryad Archers are a cheat for Drycha. I HAD NO IDEA you could switch them off. Really, I do appreciate that.

@@akaon666 Really? Sheeeei, you learn something every day. 5000 hours in this game and still...

@@the13thwarrior8 Why do you see them as a cheat though? Just curious,

Your points are exactly the way I feel.

Daaaaaaayum

@@the13thwarrior8 Civ 5 vibes

I haven't played civ in ten years!

genuinely curious, whats the point of playing for you?

Quest battles?

That sounds absolutely insane and totally believable. Dwarfs are the most powerful auto resolve race in my experience

YES! I prefer her to Vlad, especially because she can raise a Vampire army. ruclips.net/p/PLVrE8Gx3nipvNvLeMM0ndmm5OLDoKCwac

Have you put melee infantry in your armies? If you have spearmen and/or halberdiers in, the AI tends to slaughter those first in auto resolve.

@@the13thwarrior8 I do sometimes, and every auto resolve reduces them to below half

That is pretty much life under the Empire. They have the worst melee infantry this side of Brettonia. You can use the tech tree, the four options in the top left corner, to improve their survivability. I sometimes use it, but prioritise other things early game.

I completely didn't know this was supposed to be a feature!!

@@the13thwarrior8 Yes it is.

Oh I see. I use Legendary, so there's no manual saving. My error.

@@the13thwarrior8 You can have a cookie.

@@flipflopdaysindeed1136 snickerdoodle?

Thanks for these ideas. Map painting is just too tedious for me, I'm afraid. With runaway campaigns it jsut turns into me clicking through. Winning most Long Victories, for example. I have tried SFO and Radius mod and modified AI. They do make aspects of the game more difficult, but they tend to simply make things take longer. For example, making sieges longer because the walls are more durable, etc. AI mods change behaviours and can still be beaten. I'd really like for vanilla to be more of a challenge. Both seem to require that I make things harder, challenge by using worse units perhaps. I do miss that really, really hard first 50 turns.

Painting the map is easy, as the issue is once you get to that sort of strength, you steamroll. So it's boring and not a challenge. I do fight "valiant defeats" as that's usually something I can overcome. And minor city walled sieges? Ughg.

I've thought about the "just play manually" argument, and also done it. But it just doesn't feel good to waste time on battles that you already won, or won't be a challenge, or comes with annoying ass "1 click wonder" abilities.

Since I posted this I have fought more. Battles where there's a medium level of casualties for example. It certainly preserves strength.

I totally agree with you on Lizardmen. I really enjoy the units, but city growth is slow. Their locations (Lustria and Southern Whatever) are just basically Skavenville, and I HATE fighting Skaven.

This also another issue with autoresolve. Some units are far overstrength in autoresolve due to the values they're given. I've had the reverse of your Beastmen issue, a Beastmen army attacking a small city and LOSING. In the Empire campaign Khazrak will often race for AL=ltdorf and suicide against a weak city. There's no need to defend it.

Appreciate that feedback. I'm not seeing the audio issue, I had to turn it down on my end, so not sure what's up. I'll look into it!!!!

You're welcome.

Couldn't agree more. I love Gelt especially his voice lines and style.

Thanks!

Thank you!

I am totally incapable of winning as Brettonia. I just can't do cavalry. And the infantry are appallingly bad.

Thank-you sir!!