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Hi Andrew. I don't know if you still monitor this channel at all, but I've just finished your instructional videos and found them to be informative and helpful. Since you seem well versed in ball golf and connecting it to disc golf, I wonder if you could relate the face of the club, to the face of the disc, so to speak. With a club, you can find many graphics of what square, open, and closed club faces look like. How does this relate to a disc, especially since a disc has no definitive leading edge?

Nice thanks man 🎉

Cant wait to try this.

I can’t tell you how much just as video one time watching is help me so much I haven’t practice it yet but I’m gonna do fieldwork tomorrow and do this. I’ve been really trying to work on my Xstep and my backhand form all summer. Thanks again.

I've been struggling with weight shift/brace/final stride for over ten years, and this is BY FAR the simplest and most helpful explanation I've seen. Thanks for sharing -- excited to work on this!

Good Vid

Very well put, thanks for the video

I've been doing a lot better with reaching back and going through but I still get nose up and I can't seem to fix it I've tried tilting the disc nose down before I throw but it still goes in that up position

Wide rail is where it's at for me. Rounding is my bugaboo and why extending back hasn't worked for me. I'm so glad to hear someone describe what I've been seeing in players like Shultz, Philo, McBeth, Henna Blomroos as well as I've been feeling on the course.

Thanks for sharing! Definitely something I need to practice.

Your videos are REALLY great. Super cerebral (not sure if that's the exact word), with so much packed in there and so much rewatch value. Please keep it up.

how do i create space for the disc i keep hitting myself with the disc

Wow this is great. I’m trying to dial this in on my swing and this a really great instructional video highlighting the concepts. Thank you! I’ll watch this many times. This is gold.

So you said you rounded before. What ultimately do you believe helped the most fixing this?

I have a harp with a very similar dye.

Great video. I’ll give it a try tomorrow.

What do I need to do if my fingers are short and I can’t pinch with thumb and pointer fingers?

You're the shit mannn

Very true. Most of my beginner-intermediate buddies need to practice this.

I didn't really realize I was doing anything wrong with my grip, but doing it the way you show feels worlds different to how mine felt with a similar look, now if only the rain would stop so I can go try it

its essentially a modified version of the hersheiser drill from baseball (don't know if I spelled it correctly)

Man you are good at this professor! Love your writing style but also being good at these videos is icing on the cake.

Dude this is great!

Love it! Can you elaborate about what you meant at 0:51? Not exactly sure what you're saying you should NOT be doing at that point. Love your videos and articles. Top 5 disc blogger easily!

love it!

Such a simple tip that I feel is going to help me out so much. Thank you for sharing.

Thanks for an excellent analysis and explanation!

Thank you for discussing all of these details I never really thought about before. Definitely going to tinker with some of these ideas in the off season

Absolutely amazing. Phenomenal. I have learned so much from this man. He is capable of teaching so well. I’m sure that he could teach me calculus with ease within a day.

I hurt my lower left back and am a predominantly RHBH thrower. A Reddit post mentioned that because my hips aren't following through the throw, in-line with my shoulders, it's twisting the spine and rubberbanding my back, resulting in the pain. You mentioned hip and shoulder separation, but that gentleman was encouraging no separation. Is there something I might be doing wrong that is causing pain in the lower left back that will still allow me to wind up my upper half?

I've always loved reading Tuesday tips, then I saw a few of your videos, and THEN I realized you were the author. Makes complete sense now. These are excellent videos, quick, well explained, easy to follow, and your writing is also fantastic. You need more videos and deserve more subscribers! I'll be sending people your way...

Excellent video sir. Insightful nuance for a fellow older disc golfer. That is what's great about RUclips.

It would help if the feet are always visible during filming.

One thing you might watch and consider are a recent video by "Coach T" at Sling Shot Disc Golf where he talks about the brace foot landing just a touch before full extension of the backswing. I think specifically the one called "Improve your Backhand Form with Better Timing" where he uses footage of Paul McBeth, and others to highlight this. I do think you and him are otherwise in agreement (or at least not at odds) with regard to timing. He focuses on purposefully extending the arm during the backswing so it's not mindless in the previous video called "How to Walk Around the Disc" as well. His tempo cues are different than yours in that video, but I think there's convergence in terms of the end result.

Good stuff

Great video. My question is, how do I maintain a closed walk up and throw to the right of the tee pad.

Thank you! This is the clearest explanation of "shoulder-to-hip" separation I've seen.

Fantastic video, it addresses alot of the problems I’ve been dealing with trying to get out of the swing while having a straight reachback. Feels like some pro inside knowledge I just obtained! Cant wait to try it out!

Game changing tip for power!

Another great video. Saving this to watch again during feild work. Loved your article on Ultiworld too.

Great pointers there! Will definitely think about this at my next training session! :)

Good Stuff Steve. I am very new (6 weeks in) to Disc golf and trying to get past 150' consistently. It seems that there are variations on how to throw discs consistently. Thank you for offering another variation of that. As you mention even the Pro's have evolved their swings over time. Thanks for your commitment to the sport.

I applied this due to an Overthrow video, they called it something different, but applying this created tons of snap i didn't have before. The in and out helps you relax your arm and launch rather than pull. ruclips.net/video/49JckL5A9dY/видео.html&ab_channel=OverthrowDiscGolf

I’ve been playing a few years and have never heard of a wide rail. As I’m a XXL shirt size, I’ve been trying to figure out how I was supposed to pull straight through, when part of that line would be through solid matter! I’ll go out to the field and give it a try, thanks!

New Subscriber, Thank You for your videos! I am glad I found you. Being over 50 with a fused together spine, I have been frustrated figuring out how to throw. As a new golfer (less than a year), your videos have given me much needed advice as I attempt to "learn" my throw. I look forward to more videos.

Great video! I've been using the wide rail for 5 or so years and it vastly improved my accuracy. It also reduced my soreness after playing several rounds in a short span.

simon does that as well, although he has taught otherwise

I've been trying the wide rail and I still think there are concerns with timing and alignment, that the wide rail doesn't address. You speak of this in the video, but I think the wide rail can mask a problem, or be a solution to one. I've tried extending my arm way out there - overcompensating, and I still believe the shoulders need to move back and forth at a certain rate - this is a timing issue - for maximum backswing efficiency. Many people who reach directly back, as opposed to out, get maximal leverage because their timing is good, their levers are aligned properly. The wide rail can fix the rounding problem, but not necessarily the alignment issues with your shoulders and arm. To add some context: There is a backswing, and a forward swing, or just "swing." Both are movements in different directions, but I like to talk about the swing as a movement with 2 arcs. There is an arc inward as you swing forward. I call this the "inswing." This brings the disc into the "power pocket." Then the rest of the swing - which I call "outswing" - has a different arc, where the disc releases, and then you follow through. The wide rail is during the backswing, and the first half of the swing. It's not a part of the outswing. But there is more to this story. The backswing is important. The inswing is more important. The outswing is most important. That's how I look at it, at least. The closer you get to the moment of release, when the disc leaves the hand, the more mechanically correct you want to be. All the things leading up to that put you in the position to release the disc, and then after that is the follow through, where you hopefully avoid injury. Also to add more context. Extension, flexion, are technical terms. Reachback, reachout, are feel terms. A lot of people use language like "reach your arm away from your body straight back" and "reach back and extend on a 180 degree straight line" as you mention in your article. Those are phrases and conventions taught because that's how the actions feel to the people teaching them. What we've learned in the last decade is the body is doing a more complicated and nuanced set of actions together. And people try to simplify things when they explain them. The wide rail is yet another simplification designed to try and explain something from a targeted standpoint, to get people do move their body differently. I would file it under "feel" rather than "technical." But I also wouldn't say it's incorrect to use the term. Similar to reach back and reach out, I think it has value in getting people to move their body in a way that works, to more effectively throw. I'll wrap up with this: I'm not against the wide rail. I'm for only as much wide rail as needed, and no more. I think it's possible to overextend and have a less effective inswing, leading to a less effective outswing. I think the inswing - done right - can only help.

Most informational video I've seen in months. This man knows what he's doing. This is a man that everyone in society should be like. He is the pinnacle of society and is also an amazing disc golfer. What an entertaining video. 10/10, I have learned everything I need.