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Curious, is this opinion only PvP-based, or would you say it extends to the rest of the game as well? Would there not then just be a couple core' specs, relics, or stats that would the become oppressive or meta' in PvP?

Lol you can always tell if warrior dashes like Rush go in little short hops'. If that's your normal' you're definitely playing on 'Hard Mode x2' 😂

Thank you. I find the relic space already super saturated so it's really helpful to get other people's perspectives on this. 😄 They could also do a lot to simplify the stat system as well. (e.g. putting approximate %'s of your total stats in at least a note in the intro compendium, or under each piece of you hover over it.) I'm curious, is there a reason Relics appeal to you more than say, new Sigils? Just perhaps because the effects are allowed to be more powerful or they have special animations?

@@GW2Pseudo They're allowed to be more powerful and have unique effects. Sigils are pretty stale with the passive/on-hit/on-crit/stacking/on-interrupt dichotomy. You can't really deviate from this as these things are supposed to be tied to your weapon functions. Having a relic effect on a sigil would either be a straight downgrade from Force/Accuracy/Bursting or would have to be so limited in design space that it's not worth making new ones imo. Think about it this way: sigils in their current iteration make intuitive sense given that they improve your build through your weapon in some way. Runes intuitively make sense as they bolster you stats outright. What used to be set-bonuses that defined builds became Relics. Having a dedicated slot to what can be a build defining effect from an RP perspective also makes intuitive sense. The issue is that we had to roll in a lot of the passive benefits from the old rune bonuses. Everyone misses the parrot and the golem, nobody really cared about Thief runes coming back. I think you're looking at relics backwards from how they're intended. Imo you're supposed to look at a relic effect that you enjoy the RP and loop of and then build your character around that and your Grandmaster traits. Everyone falls into the trap of viewing the relic as a last optimization of an already strong build rather than a starting point. Later in this stream you talk about Grandmaster traits not being interesting or build defining enough and I agree wholeheartedly in a lot of cases. Look at Chrono in PvE atm where the BoonDPS build almost doesn't change but it applies a whole different type of effect. While this is healthy from a class homogeny perspective (if the goal is to equalize boon access, which it should be for solo players), it's awful from an RP and gameplay loop perspective. Why is speeding up the literal actions of my teammates and cutting down the cooldowns for my teammates the same rotation and gameplay loop? In my ideal world builds would come from unique and strong interactions between your relic, your elite spec, and your grandmaster trait. From there all other traits and stats would funnel in to support these decisions. I would also say that core specs without elite specs should get a bonus for being slotted in place of an elite spec, bringing back the fantasy of playing a core class. Slotting your bottom traitline should improve the core line in a meaningful way. Why is the best minion master Necromancer build on Reaper, a class that is built around buffing itself and its weapon? Imagine if Death Magic was super juiced from an Minion Master perspective if you took it instead of your elite spec? Maybe your shroud is taken away in favor of more minion skills as well as ways to control them like Ranger/Mech pets? All this to say, class identity is absolutely not solved by new stats and dismantling relics. Leaning into Relics and Grandmasters is absolutely the way forward. This is coming from someone who wants more stat types (5 stat combinations? <.< Power/Precision/Ferocity/Concentration/Condition Damage for the ultimate hybrid open world build pls :D)

@Wraithbound1 That's very well thought out & written! It sounds like you mostly play PvE. And from that perspective yes, the "optimal" sigils are rather boring. But on the PvP side, certain ones like cleansing, strength, energy (unfortunately,) are so strong *because* they have unique non-numbers effects. I don't want relics dismantled', so apologies if that was your take-away I'll try to be clearer in my edit. Nor do I want power creep to dictate that new-hypothetical sigils would be anywhere close to a relics' power level. You can only ever equip one relic, so I just want more than 1 new piece to play with each release, because I think the relic options are already completely over-saturated compared to their gear counterparts. But that's also an interesting way of looking at it I suppose. I was spoiled by some Runes having cool 6-slot interactions, aka. Leadership, Antitoxin etc. I'm surprised that you can't get the stat combination(s) that you want with a mix of existing celestial gear (since it has everything) + other mixes. And 5 stat by definition would definitely be power creep, (because it would likely have 10% more stats than 4 stat, which has 10% more than 3 stat.) But I'm also the one who would like 2-stat gear pieces for WvW that's 10% less than 3-stat gear, which would doubtless be it's own form of power creep. So I can see where you're coming from! 😄

@ I can agree with relics being oversaturated, I think any that aren’t a unique and interesting effect should go tbh. Thief, Claw, Fractal, Aristocracy, Monk etc are just far less interesting than things like Karakosa, Stormsinger, Beehive, Sunless. We agree that those 6-slot interactions should have been moved over to the current system though. I should be clear that I would be fine with new runes and sigils being added, even if they’re not incredibly powerful. New toys are still new toys. I can also agree that things like cleansing and energy are too strong. For context, I have played enough sPvP to craft the legendary backpack and will live in 2v2 and 3v3 off-seasons. I’ll often max out my ranked pops for a season. Honestly any of the on-swap sigils are kind of incredible, especially if you play Rev. It’s too bad I have to give up might, Vuln, poison, etc on swap just because Condi cleanse and endurance are too valuable. Celestial has a few stats that I just don’t really value for personal open world building, namely Expertise, Vitality, and Healing Power. I’ve been obsessed with creating hybrid damage open world builds for solo play. Condi builds feel terrible to me in OW since they take forever when farming mobs and can’t really take advantage of Zakiros. Pure power builds fall apart in open world against enemies that require you to do their mechanics, like soloing legendary bounties. Being able to walk away, lose uptime, and continue ticking condis is really good. Celestial is just kind of bad at both options because hitting crit cap is hard on classes that aren’t Ranger, Engi, Necromancer, or Virtuoso but it also doesn’t supply enough condition damage to make taking it in open world that valuable imo. You’re almost always better off with Ritualists gear for open world stuff. Finally, I really dislike Vitality for solo builds. Whether or not the numbers back me up I feel as though having more Damage Reduction and lower health both makes survivability easier while also increasing the efficiency of incoming healing. I know Conditions ignore toughness, but there are plenty of Condi cleanses on every class that are more than sufficient for open world. Basically I want Grieving with concentration so that I can combine it with Demolisher. I can’t find a way to make that work in the current system that doesn’t compromise way too hard.

@Wraithbound1 Makes sense on all accounts. & Re: Grieving + Concentration, if you haven't already, I'd Try Diviner's + Sinister. It may not be the dream 5-stat you're looking for. But Diviner's is main 4-stat Concentration for baffling reasons, so you should end up with a decent amount of both Condition Damage and Ferocity as sort of you "secondary stats" 😄

I just wish at the very least they had picked say, [Adept]/[Major] traits to "Do Support Boon X" instead. I can't imagine whoever actually*Designed* Specter, Bladesworn, Untamed etc. was incredibly thrilled about that.

*IF* The bricks hit, they HIT

That's my Secret, Captain: I always have fun!!

And if the Grandmasters colored your slashes I'd probably lose it all together lol 😄

Hi there! I'm glad you're getting use out of the builds, questions are always welcome! | [Dagger Training] Gives you +80 power and an additional 80 when wielding a 1 or 2 Dagger(s). You can see this by going into the hero panel and swapping the trait on/off w/o a Dagger equipped! 😄

Hey, if only 1/41,000 people complained about eh music I'll take it. Different people are different, & ya can't please everybody 😄

@ nothing wrong with that opinion, mate

Elementalists can't use axe. That's a Thundercrag hammer skin 😄

Absolutely not a problem! As a Warrior who plays wayyy too much WvW/PvP Feel Free to ask any questions you might have! (Either on stream or even in the comments!) 😄

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I also have Spectrum and they are the actual worst

​@@squirrelteamseven.5236I don't get it either, they suck less than Time Warner did at least 🙄 lol

Definitely. Rifle is actually Deadeye's highest DPS actually. It just requires more buttons. But if you wanted to say: Pylon-Kite on Raid Wing 7's Final Fight with + [Invigorating Precision]/[Relic of Zakiros] this build works great for it! You'll just have to take [Shadowstep] as well to do mechanics ofc!

It's actually on sale right now if that helps! ^^

Again, a dedicated "un-target everything" button that wasn't also (escape) would be awesome ANet...

@GW2Pseudo I play action cam because it's the closest thing to fps I can mimic (natural habitat), but it's a shame you really need autotarget on with that aspect. Would love a toggle key for auto target

Definitely learning that. & I'm trying to figure out how to maximize Stormsinger's damage currently. Even looking into vuln stacking on what I can only describe as "possibly the worst build ever created" 🤣

@GW2Pseudo haha yeah you are the avatar of build chaos, but honestly love the change from the meta crap and I've used like 3 of your unique builds as a base for some of my regular roamer builds. I got accused of hacking on the stealth druid last night and a 10 man group started seiging me (they got karma'd for that 😆)

@StagWithLag Druid is a lot like Bladesworn rn where it also kinda sucks, so basically no one knows what it does. But it has some of the coolest tools+build potential which is kinda why I'm digging it a ton. 😄

😭 RF is SO BORING tho lol

I can't believe it can crit honestly.

Heck Yeah!! I think I've seen quite a lot of NUTS out there lol 😄

Yeah, it's really interesting. I plan to do a full mini-video on how I tested/verified it, as soon as I figured out how to make *math interesting* lol. But the TL;DR Is it's kind of horrifying how accurate ArcDPS is 😂

99% Sure No. Easy enough to test on a golem (i.e. if the end imob procs. But I think the animation might not cull properly especially if you're fighting one and have particles on. 🙃 I'd be very interested to know if I'm wrong tho lol

@GW2Pseudo yeah you're right. But you still get some stability

@StagWithLag Oh indeed! The stability is on cast-start. Which is wonderful for safe-stomping with [Celestial Shadow]!! 😁

You'd probably be surprised how many people in our Guild/Regulars on this channel actually lift. & I actually hate mac n cheese for what it's worth. But I also loathe food in general. My problem isn't doing the workouts, it's forcing myself to eat after lol

@ you hate food… huh. Try updating your os to human 2024.

Warhorn's honestly a solid pick since they buffed it, the 4 is kind of just Warrior Spear 4. But I've since moved to Hammer - Something about Rangers Hammer animations, especially with a Celerity Sigil is super fun actually! 😄 The ability to customize your skills is also awesome & something I hope they extend to other classes *cough warrior cough* in the future.

Oh I am quite ("pleased" /s) yes. | Actually tho I know I should aim-higher, but at this point I'd just settle for the UI getting fixed and my Dragon Triggers not just failing for no reason ~20% of the time and not hitting anything at all. There's no reason that they can't just elevate your hitbox for DT2 before it casts so you don't get stuck on tiny invisible rocks, and un-lock the DT3 ground-targeting that doesn't path correctly. -- *Especially* since Mesmer Spear 4 and Necro Sword autos were literally carbon copies of these skills in the Spear Beta, ANet admitted that they were problems, and fixed these issues on Mesmer Spear / Necro Sword. Just not on Bladesworn ... 🙄 AAAaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! Links to Article Highlight: Necro Sword: www.guildwars2.com/en/news/new-weapon-proficiencies-beta-feedback-update/#:~:text=Like%20the%20change%20to%20thief%E2%80%99s%20axe%2C%20the%20autoattack%20chain%20projectiles%20will%20have%20their%20logic%20updated%20so%20they%20can%20hit%20targets%20on%20terrain%20more%20consistently. Mes Spear: www.guildwars2.com/en/news/sharp-lessons-spear-beta-feedback-update/#:~:text=We%20saw%20in%20the%20beta%20that%20the%20lancers%20routinely%20got%20outplayed%20by%20terrain%2C%20whether%20that%20was%20a%20cliff%20or%20a%20small%20pebble.

4-Stat Gear gives you +10% more "Total Stats" in this game than 3-stats. Functionally, Dragon's gives just as much Power+Ferocity as Berserk or Valk Gear. And the way Ferocity-Scaling works out this ends up doing a bit more/roughly the same damage as Full Berserker. However, because you crit-cap so easily on most thief builds if what you have lying around is Berserker+Valkyrie that will work about the same (just with a bit less total HP). | Whatever your gear setup: just make sure sure you're crit-capping without giving up any total Power+Ferocity in PvE! 😄

If you ever see 250, 2,500, or the rare (I think it can go this high?) 25,000 bonus WvW exp, those are bonus WvW XP drops that occur randomly from time to time with kills.

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Lol yup. Will be trying WiFi Streaming again this coming week. See if that's any more stable in terms of drops provided we don't drop frames as well lol 😂

Spear is just wayyy more defensive than people thought it would be I feel. Most of Ranger's kit is hyper-offense. So it's actually kind of refreshing to have 1 option that's more of a balanced jack-knife imo.