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Excellent video! Very informative!

i get the same excellent accuracy every time I anneal

This means you should anneal AFTER sizing (FL) the case, because sizing put stress (energy into) on the case. Annealing before sizing has little, if any, contribution to soften the case.

Great video and product. Question - Does the brass need reanalyzed each time it's fired, or will those characteristics repeat for fireformed brass whether it's the 1st or 4th time it's been fired?

In what order should things be done? First annealing and then dies? First dies and then annealing?

They trying hard to sell you $1600 machine , that's about it .

I bought this machine a month or so ago, and just recently I've used it to anneal cases. Right off the start, it is very easy to sure. Shockingly so. The brass cools down in approximately 20 mins, so it's ready to be resized almost immediately. The only thing that kind of made my head scratch was why this AMP get rid of the standard mode for this machine. Is there a reason for that? Thank you.

Muted!

Does it make the conclusion that we should always do annealing on the resized brass?

Always loved this product, but right now not in my budget! Good work.

Wow great job. I am going to buy this next week.

Can this do 470NE? Thanks

Did quenching the brass right out of the annealer instead of air drying make a difference in your hardness scoring?

Uhhh..."conventional" - some would say STANDARD presses and all dies made for them put the shell holder and cases - the parts that are never perfectly "consistent" - on the moving ram and secure the dies in the press frame so they are locked in position and can never move and introduce variables and the ram in the press and the case in the die and the bullet in the case are the only moving parts. And of course they're also multi-purpose and decap (remove primers) and size cases, expand case mouths when loading handgun or straight-wall rifle cartridges, seat bullets and crimp cases when needed. This "perfect" press seats only? And requires NON-STANDARD "dies" for the step where dies are really "needed" least? And the die has to be used "upside down" and "floats" under the ram and must be taken off and put on the "load cell" every time? I fail to see how this "high tech" bullet seater with oddball "dies" can possibly be more accurate OR precise than the STANDARD presses and dies that have been used...forever...to handload and reload ammo even on a "production" level simply because it provides "data" from previous bullet seating "events". It's not like there is anything the press or loader can do after the fact to create better "data" and honestly sizing "force" variation "data" would be WAY more useful for "brass prep" including annealing and checking how "perfect" they are. Neck tension i.e. "seating force" can never be "accurate" if case prep is not "complete" - decapping, sizing, trimming, deburring, cleaning- degreasing, resizing and priming. Factory ammuniton is loaded using "perfectly" clean - inside and out and top to bottom - and uniform cases as "identical" as possible. After firing what possible reason could there be for deviating from the processes required to make the cases as close to "like new" as possible? Neck tension will always be "perfect" if you use "factory" reloading dies and case prep processes to get the cases back into "spec". Neck reaming or turning or otherwise "cutting" after resizing and trimming "perfectly" clean cases to "spec" will never "improve" neck tension which is what it is when cases and bullets are in "spec" because THAT IS WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE AND WHEN IT IS IN "SPEC". The material used in cases and case dimensions and seating depth and bullet length and shape determine the overall neck "friction" on the bullet which determines chamber pressure. Altering anything about load data especially case dimensions to alter neck friction does nothing for "accuracy" or "consistency" because all PRECISION built into the "hardware" is LOST. The neck tension "spec" is not meant and the "perfect" neck tensions were "developed" by ammunition manufacturers and gun makers on "day one" of creating new cartridges and turning "wildcats" into commercial cartridges. Nothing about "wildcats" makes them any more or less dependent on those industry "standards" for neck thicknesses when they all use factory cases, case materials, bullets, primers and powders from commercial cartridges. And "data" used to compare "methods" that produce different "finished products" with different physical properties and/or dimensions is useless for determining "accuracy" of loaded ammo which no matter how "consistent" in seating force can never be "consistently accurate" without 100% "controlled conditions" at the range. Some ammo manufacturers DO have "ranges" with absolutely consistent conditions of zero wind and constant temp and humidity because they are underground tunnels below the "frost line" and connected to climate-controlled buildings. They develop or rather make "hunting" bullets, cases, ammunition and "wildcat" cartridges they "commercialize". But they don't alter cases from "spec" for more "accuracy" and don't use dirty or once-fired cases "developing" cartridge load OR RELOAD DATA.

"Benchrest shooting" is not marksmanship.

That "wildcat" has a bullet diameter less than half the inside diameter of the "parent case". Meaning the powder burning pushes "out" on the case and neck walls more than on the base of the bullet. Meaning its a "diminishing returns" situation particularly with the much higher cost of "proprietary" .50 BMG primers. In the U.S. they run $.50 apiece minimum and the only "supplier" is CCI. About the same cost as once-fired "mil surp" Lake City brass and "pulldown" .50 BMG 650-grain FMJ bullets. "Pulldown" Winchester 872 powder from 20mm Vulcan cartridges is as cheap as $10 per pound delivered. With proper annealing and sensible load levels brass will last 15-20 cycles. Using components I "hoarded" 10 years ago I can reload .50 for well under $1.50 per round after the brass is "paid for". It's absolutely fucking ridiculous to waste .50 brass and primers and 3/4 of a .50 powder charge to fire .375 caliber bullets with far less "efficiency" and "cost effectiveness" and way more "investment" than is required for any of several .375 "super magnum" cartridges available "commercially" in the U.S. As for .416 Barrett it's simply a .50 BMG "wildcat" using necked down .50 BMG cases and was the "loophole" Barrett came up with when California banned .50 BMG rifles. It has no "ballistic" advantages whatsoever and is not more "cost effective" to load because mil-surp FMJ bullets and "match" bullets are not available "over the counter". The smaller base diameter and steeper shoulder angle also make it less efficient at turning case pressure into muzzle energy. And you end up with a heavier rifle overall using a .50 BMG barrel "blank" only drilled for a .416 bullet so less barrel steel is "lost". .50 BMG 650-grain FMJ bullets also have a "perfect" 1.000 BC since the BC "math" was developed using that bullet as the "perfect" projectile "ballistically". Hornady .50 BMG 750-grain A-Max bullets are "better than perfect" with a 1.020 BC because they are not handicapped by being FMJ and steel-cored to be Hague Conventions compliant. This "wildcat" is roughly equivalent to a .22-caliber .30-06-based "wildcat" with the case actually necked down to .224 instead of the sabot "Accelerator" .308-caliber "conversions". And just as idiotic. Actually moreso since there is no price difference between small rifle primers and large rifle primers and .224-caliber bullets are enough cheaper than .308s to more than offset powder cost increase. Which isn't HUGE to begin with since .22 "magnum" centerfire cartridges like .22-250 Remington and .220 Swift use nearly as much powder as .30-06 Springfield. Guaranteed Remington .375 Ultra Mag will "outperform" that ridiculous "Hammer" any way you slice it "all else being equal".

Shipping weight?

So according to this video it shouldn't matter how precise the annealing is because once you size it. The hardness will be the same no matter if you dropped it to 98 to 100. It will just make the life of the brass live longer.

I haven't seen Vickers being done on curved surfaces and not using the reticles to measure the diamond tips. Interesting.

Trouble is I shoot and reload about 12,000 rounds a yr. Can we get a machine that feeds automatically and wicked quick?

My favorite part is the no box cutter cutter symbol, while he's opening it with a box cutter. I know the symbol is just to get your attention, but funny nonetheless

Who can legitimately question the price point of this machine. So many points of manufacturing. Credit to AMP.

Would it be a lower seating force if you annealed, then resized and still not brushed the inside of the neck? My understanding is you should clean brass, anneal, resize, use graphite or neolube 2 inside the neck, prime, charge then seat the bullet.

Invalid example. Shooting and reloading an un-annealled case 20 times into one group is ridiculous and deceptive.

With all the primo gear, I’m a little disappointed that you don’t have an electron microscope sitting on your desk to the left to analyze the case on a molecular level…

I just started annealing my cases because it's beneficial (lol)... but NOW I actually know why! This is the BEST tutorial on the How/Why you should anneal. Brilliant video and explanation - now I can intelligently answer when somebody asks why I go through the trouble to anneal my brass. Cheers!

There is no Sessions button in the menu bar. How do I create a new session?

I should have watched this video when it came out. I have 3 wildcats. .20PPC (.220 Russian case necked down to .20), .338 Edge (.300 RUM necked up to .338), and the much maligned 8.6BLK. People that make their own brass use different cases for the parent. During resizing I use a neck bushing die with an expander ball because that's the die that is available. It's the only die that I still have an expander ball in. Everything else is FL/Neck bushing followed by a mandrel. Typically I'll anneal then size. With the 8.6BLK, as long as I'm using the expander ball, it seems like I should anneal after the carnage of the expander ball's travel. Or better still, ditch the ball.

Never thought .375 could look small

Thanks for explaining the annealing and hardening processes in this manner. Understanding how the energy is stored and released by the two processes helps to make it so much clearer.

It's a big little operation

...now I'm looking at my reloads and thinking "I could have made you better"

what is the rifle fired in this video, action, stock barrel, cartridge?

I still don't see 1600.00. Maybe 600 700 tops.

Wow . That's impressive, great job .

You know this guy is the greatest ballistic accuracy reloader shooter testor in the world .holy six figure reloading testing man cave in the world batman😂

Still faster than a muzzleloader 😂

Hands down the clearest explanation of annealing and it's effects on brass. If you anneal, are thinking about annealing you should watch this first!

Amazing.....

Since reloaders use differing techniques to reload, do amounts of annealing change according to the reloader's technique, or should we all be doing it the same?

Love mine

Love my AMP! Thank You everybody that worked on it.

Some people go deep on the reloading rabbit hole.... that ia a very scientific approach to reloading

Lousy spotter. Poor communication/dialogue. Poor feedback. Poor corrective actions

The men who explored and set up ranches and founded towns and rode stagecoaches and dug for minerals used "Ideal" tong tool hand reloading tools and they never annealed their brass cartridge case, yet they harvested game animals and fought outlaws and attacking roving bands of "Injuns" with their Sharps and other rifles. In the big cities on the East coast other gents engaged in weekly rifle shooting matches (whereas nowadays their great grandchildren play golf) shooting Sharps and other target rifles and they loaded their own ammo, and never annealed anything.

anything is OK but the price is totaly out of logic without any discussion

Hello. That was VERY quiet. A.) What kind of sound suppressor are you using? B.) What sort of backstop / bullet catcher are you shooting into? Looks like you are in a basement of a house.

Yes and the big-bang theory was true for a hundred years until it suddenly wasn't...

❤ thank you