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i gotta say, i really appreciate you taking the time to comment on any amv i've made, especially considering i see you as a rwby amv GOAT. thanks so much <333

this just sounds like a matter of preference in terms of the types of characters we enjoy. I've never seen ruby as a weak, helpless girl. you could've gathered this viewpoint from the two amvs i made with her as the focus, and they are a little depressing XD. one of my first videos i made of her shows every single strength that she has. (title: I think Ruby Rose is Neat and Here's Why). the problem is not that she's weak and helpless, its that she does not feel as though she's allowed to talk about her feelings around her teammates. and that matter WAS demonstrated in volume 9. the fandom was more focused on ruby acting "mentally weaker" because that was her present state of mind for the longest time. you can see that post vol 9 the fandom has been praising ruby for her strength after it all. I am a bit confused as to why you don't think ruby was bottling up her emotions, but this could just be a case of me looking at ruby through a "she's my favourite character" lens. comfort characters tend to get far more headcanons thrown at them, so I could be exaggerating it a bit. But come vol 9 we see it was less about that and more so about the fact that ruby was never given a chance to process anything, and she'd been dealing with that up until that point, but vol 9 was her being brought to the brink and shoved over the edge of tolerating that. she was done with being unable to process everything. Also the speech at the beginning was just between her and oscar, not her team at all. and that was one of the many rare chances she got to do it, and the way she presented it was not as a vent but as a way to inspire her teammate who was struggling. kind of an unfortunate situation for her to vent in my opinion. And, just so you know, ruby rose IS a tragic victim. they all are. but they are in no way helpless. I do not subscribe to that idea or assumption

@@silvereyed Yes, I've seen that video, I have it in my favorites. Ruby has always been my favorite character, but I feel like most people don't appreciate the same things about her that I do and it's pretty sad. One of the key parts of Ruby's character I liked was her openness and honesty. WBY all hid their insecurities behind specific attitudes, but Ruby was a "simple soul", she didn't play these social games and was chill and honest about her emotions and desires, that's part of what makes her a good leader. This is why I don't like the idea that she was keeping everything to herself after Beacon and how widespread this idea is, it makes me feel like a lot of people don't care about this aspect of Ruby and never even noticed it. Not to mention that the idea of Ruby hiding everything puts into question hor genuine her bravery and determination was. This may sound harsh, but it's hard for me to admire someone who lacks any self-respect and is completely servile to others, pretty much acting like some sort of masochistic martyr with deep rooted self-worth issues, since that means they aren't really sure of anything in their life, then how can they lead others? This is what I feel people are trying to paint Ruby as, so naturally I don't like it. I want to admire Ruby and see her as someone who possesses genuine confidence and courage. She doesn't have to be perfect, it's natural to have doubts, but she also doesn't have to be completely broken and lacking any self-esteem. To expand on this, I feel that the idea that Ruby was secretly depresed and struggling with loss of Beacon for the entirety of V4-9 devalues her scenes of confidence and reflection throughout these seasons. The scene with Oscar is meant to show Ruby's genuine reflection and motivation. Character A revealing what motivates them to help motivate character B in turn as a common trope, usually meant to showcase character A's maturity. But if we assume that Ruby was depressed all along, that devalues the scene in a really cynical way, since apparently her dedication to her friends was not a good motivation that actually worked for her, but just some desperate coping mechanism. The same can be said for other scenes, like Ruby writing a letter to Yang in V4 reflecting on her feelings on things post-Beacon. Or the ending of V6 where Ruby uses the memories of her friends to defeat the Leviathan. All these scenes carried the notion that Ruby reflected on Beacon and got over it, as well as she could have. So it upsets me seeing people either ignore scenes like this or interpret them like they seemingly didn't mean anything inspiring, just because they like the idea of secretly depressed Ruby more. Regarding V9, I don't think it's about Ruby bottling up trauma from previous seasons. That's not really what the focus is on at the end. The focus at the end is on Ruby learning to accept herself rather than compare herself to the ideal of her mother. The way I (prefer to) see it, Ruby was looking up to her mother for the majority of the show and it was fine as long as she could live up to her idea, she was in a pretty good mindset until the fall of Atlas. After this, in V9, she felt guilty and directionless, which made her not want to talk about it and also made her feel like everything she's done in the past was a failure. It almost seems like a textbook portrayal of an INFP person's Fi-Si loop (you can look that up and see the similarities if you're interested in Myers-Briggs). She wanted to be reborn as an idealized version of herself, until she was able to think clearly and accept herself. Basically, I view this as a temporary conflict and not something that had been happening since V4, and I think the narrative supports this since all Ruby needs to do is make peace with not being her ideal, rather than change anything fundamental about herself. Overall, I just feel like a lot of people in the fandom are far more interested in treating Ruby as a depressed broken little girl than they are in the notion of her being a capable leader with genuine admirable personality traits, so they hyperfocus on anything that could be perceived as a sign of depression and downplay or ignore any signs of a healthy mature mindset in Ruby because the latter is just not as interesting to them. So it was surprising to see a channel of someone who was seemingly into the depression theory and still found Ruby admirable. I at least hope my post got you to see how this idea can be seen as damaging to Ruby's image and got you to think about some things you may have not considered before.

Agree to disagree my friend! I see your points but I’m not sure you’re understanding fully the complexities of a character arc! Ruby can be struggling and also be open! She has been both. It just depends on where you’re looking at her character arc. I appreciate you being chill and reasonable with this though, there are some crazies out there absolutely shitting on her character for no reason!

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and eventually she comes back