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Eu sempre gostei mais da Lizzie do que da Josie ou da Hope. Lizzie lembra muito a Caroline nas primeiras temporadas de TVD. O ciúmes que a Lizzie sente da Hope com o Alaric é totalmente compreensível. Alaric claramente tratava Hope diferente, levando ela pra missões, dando treinamento separado pra ela e tudo mais. Até eu fiquei incomodada com isso. No primeiro episódio o Alaric disse que se a Lizzie fizesse amizade com Hope ele daria treinamento em grupo, mas isso é uma besteira. Ele podia muito bem pegar a Josie e a Lizzie e dar treinamento separado para cada uma. Assim ele passaria mais tempo com as filhas e ajudaria nos problemas que cada uma tem separadamente.

ppl forget Lizzie was known as a mean girl at the beggining of legacies that's why penelope was meaner to her (doesn't mean she was right) and josie has a high co-dependency but lizzie took advantage of that.

That’s when I started disliking Penelope like how do you talk like that with someone who’s not in the right state of mind to defend herself ? If Jo is fine with not standing up for herself against her own sister that’s up to her you have no right to “ do it for her “ .

Atleast they could use Valerie as teachers to teach lizzy how to be stable ❤❤😂

I don't see her as being bipolar, but just having bad days. Keeping secrets for your daughter and a guy you like telling you you're no good must suck

I had to stop watching one minute in. So far, those were just examples of being a teenage girl. There are 100 better examples that actually represent mental illness.

This is offensive. Maybe some of these scenes display some of the actions Lizzie made due to her bipolar but none of these are WHY she’s bipolar. Bipolar is due to surges and deficits in noradrenaline, serotonin and dopamine.

Penelope reminds me of some girls at my school they once made something the one who gets me having a breakdown wins lol

I mean lizzie def like caroline

As someone diagnosed with bipolar, a ton of these scenes show nothing related to bipolar

Most of these are people being rude to lizzie tho

People say she's cold-hearted but they don't ever give her chance for her to show her True self

More like "Everyone shitting on Lizzie Saltzman for 5 minutes and 24 seconds

She’s not bipolar she’s broken

1 year later and it looks like she has bpd

she isnt bipolar its her covenant they are cursed with well being crazy and passing it to their children

I'm bipolar and (there's sooo much more to describe about that) but what I wanted to say was - thank you Julie Plec and Jenny Boyd for absolutely nailing it!

I think Lizzie could also have bpd, because of her intense and quick mood swings, codependency, and fear of abandonment.

She's the most interesting character in the whole show

I really want to see lizzie turning to a vampire. Iam sure it will be a mind blowing to watch.

I didn’t exactly like Penelope park, she in a way is a self-absorber ever since she broke up with Josie because of Lizzie, like has she never heard of “ family comes before relationships” yes Lizzie can be difficult, but in the end of the day we all have issues and despite all that she has a big heart, I mean she has her moments of despair but she also can be really smart all the time, and overall I feel like hope in a way is very arrogant as well, she likes to brag about how she’s the only tribrid, like yes we get it, and it wasn’t until Lizzie remembered her that she knew exactly the type of person Lizzie was and didn’t end up judging her, or doubting her.

I’m sorry but IMO Lizzie is more likely to have a personality disorder than being bipolar because contrary to popular belief bipolar is not a back-in-fourth state between anger and joy or sadness but long periods of down and high and a more « normal » period that can last weeks or months. And yes I’m fully aware that mental illnesses is different for everyone but there are still some criteria to fill before you’re diagnosed and it’s a lot more complicated than it seems. But again that’s just my opinion and I’m not trying to offend anyone 😁 and this is coming from someone who suffers from personality disorder btw

Well, if she has bipolar, they could’ve show her swinging from mania to depression, each one can last months. And I know ppl deal with mental illness differently but these are the criteria. She is extremely emotional with a trigger. Like she can be fine, but something triggers her to be emotional. That’s not bipolar.

I love her😂

Lizzie is so fucking abused. Like that’s supposed to help her

Hate the fact that everyone assumes shes a bitch and they don’t actually give her a chance. I also HATED the way Rafael treated her he just took her v-card and left her when she was there when he needed her and he bailed on her, That’s why he got what he deserved.

Not to be a psych major but Lizzie has borderline personality disorder from what I’m seeing, more than bipolar. They can go hand in hand in some aspects but Lizzie’s co-dependency, making it seem like the world revolves around her but still somehow feeling like she can’t have anything, it’s very BPD, especially coming from someone who has borderline personality disorder and sees Lizzie in myself lol. but like, what do I know lol. (Btw, youd think they’d all treat her a lil better, considering mental illnesses are the least of their concerns in a supernatural world but lmao)

As a person with bipolar disorder that is not correct even if it is confirmed. The disorder has long periods of depression and short periods of maina. If anything she has a personality disorder. HPD, BPD, ASPD, NPD thoes are more likely to fit her.

What I don’t get is a lot of people hate Lizzie because she’s mean. But they don’t acknowledge the fact that she’s bipolar. But Damon gets a pass because he’s hot and funny. Damon causes a lot of problems but everyone gets over what he’s done in a second. But when Lizzie is a little bit mean everyone calls her a bitch and selfish.

I really love Lizzie. Watching Legacies made me think, finally a teen show with mental illnesses done right! I have high functioning Autism myself (meaning without intellectual disability) and even though we have different disorders, I could actually relate to certain Lizzie scenes myself. Also, to anyone commenting Autism isn't a mentall illness, this is untrue. It is, that's just something Karens have made up so they could try to give their kid a pass from the stigma, which I find absolutely disgusting behavior.

I mean she IS bipolar but these are not scenes that show it

Abigail Bellweather (Motherland: Fort Salem) vs. Lizzie Saltzman (Legacies)

I never thought she was bipolar I just thought she had Daddy issues... And besides she has a lot on her plate...

People don’t dislike Lizzie bc of her and Josie’s different personalities it’s bc she treats Josie like shit she doesn’t think of her at all she’s so self absorbed and is shocked when Josie is upset she’s so shocked and doesn’t notice it before Josie snaps But she’s improved since season one

The fact that the actress that plays her is 29 will forever fuck me up

That last bit when she asked for her sister. Broke my heart

She does not have bipolar disgrace

SPOILERS: The awkward moment when Josie turned out to be the evil twin not Lizzie 😂 Btw I love both the Saltzman twins and Hope

People think that I’m crazy bcuz I tried to commit suicide. But they do not think well why does she want to do it. If they think hard Nd clear they will be able to see how shitty they treat me. I got bullied for 8years str8. Nd I exploded I couldn’t take it no more. The school was gonna call the ambulance to take me away bcuz I wanted to kill my self. I ran out of the office I ran away from everybody juss cryin Nd running. Ppl think I’m crazy Nd I juss wanted attention but they don’t understand wat happens to me to make me do these things. So I understand wat Lizzie is going thru. So when ppl hate on her it pisses me off. I have a sibling that literally told me to kill myself that the world would be happy if I’m dead. So I rlly do understand wat she’s goin thru

Can i say that she's the only interesting character in legacies.

these scenes almost make me cry. lizzie deserves so much better then what she gets.

I hate how everyone seems to forget that these are all teenagers and that Lizzie is a bipolar teenager with magical powers that are tied to her emotions. Penelope, at 16/17 years old has no right to try and sabotage the one support system Lizzie has in Josie- especially when Caroline is gone and Alaric is constantly running off with Hope and keeping secrets from her. I never understood how Penelope came to feel like she knew what was best for Josie (who is more than capable of standing up for herself) or how she came to the conclusion that antagonizing her emotionally vulnerable and fragile bipolar sister was what was best. And, yet, somehow Posie is somehow the "best relationship".

I find it so funny that we can be one hundred percent understanding of someone who has depression or anxiety, but not mental illnesses that make people lash out. To my understanding, bipolar disorder makes you codependent, insecure, and EMOTIONAL. Your feelings swing left and right, if it’s hard for you to deal with, imagine how the person with the disease feels. And when Josie blamed her for not taking her medication I got mad. No one likes feeling numb, or like a zombie, and that’s mostly what medication does I assume. Feeling nothing at all is so much worse than feeling everything. People seriously need to be more understanding of her. Geez

lizzie is such a strong and interesting character she is definitely my favourite and has a lot of respect from me

She's a badass ❗🔥🔥🔥😍

Sure, she's growing on me, BUT I still remember how she didn't sense Josie was in danger, whereas Josie immediately understands when Lizzie is in trouble.

Haven't you watched s2?

Josie seems darker underneath than Lizzie. You can see all of Lizzie...tantrums and all. Josie represses all her emotions and hides her resentment. This adds fuel to her darker side which comes out sometimes as we see in season 2.

Am I the only one who loves Lizzie?

Lizzie may be bipolar, but if anything Josie is going to be the one who turns out like Kai..