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@MrBlaze256 i have no clue! The screen takes up the whole dash and everything is integrated into it. Which is why we kept ours stock. The car has been out for 3 years now, maybe someone has made a dash kit for it already.

@@Jaygorski what year is yours?

@@youraveragejoeadventures 2024

@Jaygorski is the infotainment still laggy or did they fix it?

@@youraveragejoeadventures Maybe slightly laggy, I'm not worried about it.

@toddb930 mine was 2022 model when they first came out. Everyone has been saying that the newer models have fixed a lot of the issues. So you should be good. But let me know after you've have it for a while 👍🏽

@youraveragejoeadventures thanks man! I'll try to remember to offer some experiences. I don't put on a lot of miles but I have snow to deal with in the winter and a couple "jeep trails" to try this coming summer. 🤪

How is the screen system on the 2025 ? Thanks

@toddb930 what are do u live in? Maybe you can adventure with us. Always better to go in a group for safety. We got a couple rugs we hit the trails with here in CA. Also i made a video on the things we LOVE about this car after 25000 miles. So it's not all bad. We actually really liked this car when we had it but I wanted to be honest to make sure I tell people really world experience vs just hyping it up lol

@youraveragejoeadventures -- I very much appreciate you sharing your experiences, good and bad. I'm in CO.

@ericmaass7476 i did upgrade it. I even made this video on how to upgrade the firmware to show other people. ruclips.net/video/67tzoM-Efk8/видео.htmlsi=zlkv9a2qYZLWOtBo Unfortunately, it's still very slow and laggy. We had the 2022 OBW which is the first year it came out but other ppl with the newer models have told me it's not as bad on the 2023 and 2024 models. What year do you have?

@youraveragejoeadventures mine is a 2020 Onyx XT, I had the same problems until the November update last year, and now, virtually no issues.

@ericmaass7476 maybe we got unlucky with ours? But I've had a lot of people tell me the same thing about their screen being laggy as well...with that being said, no touch screen should be this laggy in a 2022 car especially with the price of this car and how a lot of the controls are integrated into it. The screen is the thing you interact with the most when driving. We had a 2019 Subaru Forester Sport before this car and that cars infotainment system didn't lag at all. So again, maybe we just got unlucky. As you saw in the video, we had a pretty bad experience with it.

@aaronerickson8878 i agree but a lot of crossovers are pretty much around the same price. If anything, this is still cheaper than the rav 4 or crv. We wanted something capable but quickly found out that it's just a soft roader. We needed more capability for what we are trying to do.

@@kbeck5562 I agree with you 👍🏽

@brndnlvdm690s Not for us. We didnt have any issues with this car in terms of the engine or transmission. I would try to record it and have your dealership check it out.

@ alrighty then thank you very much for responding. I appreciate you.

@@brndnlvdm690s no worries!

@@scratchpar1710 I agree! That's why we traded ours in.

@@GrumpyOldRailroader You should definitely go back. It's one of our favorite areas when it's not crowded!

@lgstylo3124 it's definitely possible to make it up in a Subaru but you have a higher chance of taking out your bumpers. I'm sure with a slightly modified Subaru, you would have no problem but ours was stock and we didn't want to damage our car. In the video, we talked about being alone on this trip. If we had another vehicle in case something happens, we would have been more confident. You gotta trust your gut sometimes. And yes, Jon and I are both Filipino. 👍🏽

@3lectronic0 I agree. Laggy screen and the CVT is trash, especially for off roading 👎

@themike97_58 i feel like it's mostly for aesthetic purpose now. But it's even worse when they put all the functions on the touch screen and the touch screen is dogshit. So even doing simple task like changing you're climate control is annoying.

@neillee3793 nope, ours was the 2022 model.

@@youraveragejoeadventures Ok thx, we have not noticed the Infotainment screen lag issue as you describe in our 2024 Outback Wilderness - perhaps they improved it - not sure. Other issues you mention we agree on the MPG, we hoped to get better - for us here in Sitka, Alaska not a big use, only 14 miles of road available - ha!

@neillee3793 nice! Yes, i heard they've improved a lot of the issues we were having with the newer models. That's what we get for getting a brand new model on the first year on production! Haha!

we updated iit all the time. I even made a video here on my channel on how to update the infotainment system to help other people out. here is a link to that video here ruclips.net/video/67tzoM-Efk8/видео.htmlsi=qwmbE68RyJntHrNg the paddles dont really do anything. it has a CVT. it only simulates gear changes. i think this issue is more how the car is tuned and programmed. it gears hunts all the time. maybe this isnt true for everyone but im only giving my own personal experience. maybe i got a lemon? but if i got a lemon then so be it but thats what we experienced owning this car from 0 miles brand new to over 25000 miles. If you have a Wilderness and didnt experience any of this that i envy you. i wish ours worked well but it just didnt.

@marcusvaldes true, but even without the cargo box, we would get around 20 mpgs. We do love in a hilly area though.

@@allensebastian1918 thank you!

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We love our Subaru too, which is why this is our second one. We came from a 2019 Forester Sport.

I remember that did help for sure. 👍

Im glad they updated it. Our 2022 definitely lagged as I showed in this video. Our 2019 Subaru Forester didnt lag at all either which is why i was confused on why our newer model infotainment did... Maybe we just had bad luck and got a lemon for a screen.

It definitely did. But since we car camped inside the car, we needed a cargo box for all of our gear. Of course it still got better gas mileage than a truck or suv but we didnt mind trading MPGs for more capability.

Oh nice! The screen on our raptor is way more responsive. Maybe we just had bad luck because we really wanted to love this car. what year is your Wilderness?

@@youraveragejoeadventures 2025

@ericahearn9604 nice. Ours was 2022, the first year they came out. I'm glad they fixed it because a lot of ppl that I knew that had the 2022 had the same issues we experienced.

@renatocappuccitti150 congratulations on the new car! Under armor protection is a must-have. After a lift and some more aggressive off road tires, you'll have a decent car for the trails! Have fun on your adventures 👍🏽

@mando1337 i can't speak on the newest ones, but our 2022 Outback Wilderness was really bad. It was ok once it was warmed up, but in the video, I even showed how slow it was to respond. It could be bad luck, and we just had one that was like that? We were actually excited when we saw the infotainment for the first time because of the aesthetics, but after living with it, it was just not good for us. I've been hearing that the 2024 models have improved but I'm just giving people our experience before dropping that kind of money when there are other options in that price range that are better, in our opinion. We wanted to love this car but after the honeymoon phase, you start to see a lot of its flaws. We had a 2019 Subaru Forester Sport before this car and that car had a better infotainment system that was responsive and never gave us issues. We thought upgrading to a newer model, it would just work like the older model but it was worse. We tried everything we could and even made a video on how to help with the lag. If you haven't done so, you can check it out here. ruclips.net/video/67tzoM-Efk8/видео.htmlsi=Za3YT-CB-BdBz1nz

Yeah I saw the lag in your video which I found bizarre because none of this happened in the two Outbacks I had. Have you been to the dealer with it to have a look and upgrade it? I'm not aware of any hardware changes to the system in the past couple of years as Subaru have been working on the new generation Outback and year-on-year changes have been close to nothing

@mando1337 we never took it to the dealer but we did a software upgrade from home and it didn't do much, still laggy for us. We originally bought this car so we can do our overlanding and offroad adventures but found out that we needed something more capable. So we got rid of it for a more off road oriented 4x4. If you don't intend in going off road, than this car is a good all around car but we had to turn around on some trails. If you haven't seen it, check out what we traded it in for here. ruclips.net/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/видео.htmlsi=Lgva-hBZ-SrBPfYX

@cop2506 True, we did see one a prius attempt this right after us but took out his front and back bumpers, but you're right, he did do it 👍🏽 This Subaru couldn't do more than this dirt road either 😅

@scott48 the Audi Q5 is nice. Will you be trading your OBW in for it?

@@youraveragejoeadventures we shall see after it launches in the US and I’m able to to test drive it and kick the tires

@scott48 nice, good luck with that car👍🏽

@WeSRT4 we got rid of this car last year. We definitely needed a more capable car. If you haven't seen it, check out what we got to replace it with here. ruclips.net/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/видео.htmlsi=A-xmI7di9XF6rWZ7

@bikefixr oh nice! They must have updated the infotainment for the 2024 model. Our 2022 was beyond laggy, especially when first starting the car (as shown in the video). We did all the system updates and i even did a video on my channel here to show people how to do it. We went from a 2019 Forester Sport that had a really good infotainment system with no lag. So I guess when we upgraded to our 2022 Wilderness, we were expecting it to be the same, if not better. We loved this car when we had it but we had to get something a little more capable for our own adventure needs and to tackle some of the harder trails by us. If you haven't seen what we replaced this adventure car with, you can check it out here. ruclips.net/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/видео.htmlsi=OSPlJBAvAvpyACv5

@@echouses this is at Big Sur, CA

@KyutaSyuko we had a 2019 Subaru Forester Sport before this car and the 8 inch infotainment screen in that car was really good. No lag, super responsive and it still had all the physical buttons for the things you need to control while driving. I wouldn't mind the newer bigger screen but having a laggy screen in 2024 is kind of not acceptable, especially when everything is integrated into it. Hopefully they fix this when they do a redesign in a couple of years.

@@youraveragejoeadventures I apologize, I meant 8", not 10". The only downside is that the front cam is displayed on the smaller screen on top of the dashboard.

@KyutaSyuko oh ya, I remember that as well. I also remember my Forester getting almost 30 MPGs! Crazy how much a one inch lift and all terrain terrain tires can do to the fuel consumption. We have since gotten rid of both of our Subarus because they just couldn't keep up on some of the more challenging trails we wanted to do. If you haven't seen it, check out what our current adventure vehicle is here. ruclips.net/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/видео.htmlsi=vWAmmAbXI2he4MMR

@@Mike-vd2qt i saw that. 👍🏽 Unfortunately, we have since gotten rid of this car for a 4x4. Our adventures needed more capability that this car just wasn't meant for. We loved it when we had it though👍🏽

@@youraveragejoeadventures Yep, I have a 2022 Outback, was thinking of a new Tacoma or Tundra for camping, but the current 2024 Toyota problems scared me off. Keeping the Subie for now. ☮

@@Mike-vd2qt good call. The last generation might be the one to go to since they were out for a while and refined all the problems with it. It'll probably be a couple of years until they do the same with all the new generation Toyota cars.

@geraldf.1222 unfortunately with all the overlading gear we have, a cargo box is necessary. Of course i know it kills the MPGs but when going dispersed camping, you have to bring everything with you. No running water, no electricity, no bathrooms, means you gotta bring it yourself. And we keep the trunk space open because we sleep in the back. We always changed it at 5000 miles but that doesn't make this car more capable. It's very good on soft trails, dirt roads, mud, rain but the trails we want to do required a little bit more capability. But we did love this car while we had it. 👍🏽

@shayzoo2 yes you can, you can turn both functions off completely. But it resets everytime you turn the car off/on, so you just gotta turn it off everytime before you start driving. 👍🏽 Let me know if you end up getting another car.

@@youraveragejoeadventures omg. Every time. That sucks. In the CR-V it stays off until you turn it back on. Hmmm. That may change things.

@shayzoo2 unless you plan on going off road or on trails, it might be better to stick with your Honda. We had to get rid of our Subaru because we wanted to do more extreme trails that the Subaru is just not made for. We learned that we needed a 4x4 and so we had to trade it in. If you haven't seen it, check out what we got to replace it for our off road adventures here. ruclips.net/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/видео.htmlsi=DbAF1VnCyz6-0IIX

@@youraveragejoeadventures yeah I saw that one. We have a ford F-350 crew cab that can go pretty much anywhere we want to go. But I like to car camp and the new CR-V I would HAVE to get a hybrid to they the trim level I want, but the bigger issue is it no longer has a flat cargo area when you lay the seats down. WHY OH WHY HONDA???? So annoying. Sucks for car camping and also for moving my kids in and out of their dorms. I will no longer be able to slide their fridge and furniture right into the Honda. I’m so bummed. Maybe I just need to start over from scratch and look at some brands I usually don’t. I just really don’t need a third row anymore. My kiddos are all grown so I’m interested in better mileage now.

@shayzoo2 i hear that. We have a plug in Toyota Prius Prime as our everyday commute car. Both have their purposes👍🏽 any other cars you thinking off?

@Widebody20 Same. Depending on what you need your vehicle for will determine the perfect car for you. This car was great while we had it but definitely needed an even more capable car for our adventures.

@afox9000 i did like how you can send directions from your phone straight to your cars infotainment with the Subaru app too.

@kennybinns6279 I'm not bashing it. I'm just giving my honest experience with the car to make sure people know what they are getting. The commercials for this car had them going up imogene pass as a stock car lol So im making sure someone thats looking for a more off road oriented car can learn from our mistakes. It was overall a great car while we owned it. If you havent seen it, we also made a video of the things we loved about the car after 25,000 miles. Watch that and see if you still think I'm bashing it 🫡 Everyones got different needs and we have since traded it for a more off road capable car to fit our personal needs. 👍🏽

@Nuuze oh that's crazy! On our way out, we saw a couple of Sprinters that didn't even want to attempt that slick muddy part on a decline right before the fallen trees and camped right on the trail. I've been here a couple of times but that was the most rain I've seen while being there. Glad we all got out safe 🙏🏽👍🏽

@fhblackston it came out of nowhere on that dark highway! Luckily the eye sight system in the car hit the brakes for me🙏🏽

@cubehire3653 sorry about the music if it's not to your liking. It's just the style of videos I make. I'm kinda new to making videos so I really appreciate the feedback so i can continue to improve. But what point do you want me to show you pictures of? I'll be happy to show you. In terms of the infotainment screen, i showed a video of the screen literally being laggy. We really wanted to love this car but after owning it and discovering how it actually is to live with, I'm just trying to share my personal experience because, in our opinion, for the price of this car, we think there are better options. I know everyone's experience will be different which is why I also made a video on the things we loved about this car. This is still a really good car for the average person but we just needed more capability for our own needs. If you haven't seen it, this is the link to that video. Things we LOVED about the Subaru Outback Wilderness after 25,000 miles - ruclips.net/video/-mEVKUfmxJY/видео.htmlsi=8DmO_yKMc7ApRR0d

@gabejf1 we updated the software on the infotainment and I even made a video of it on my page to help other people out. You can find that video on my page. It is still slow for us unfortunately. To us, it feels like they went backwards and cheaped out on the screen. Before this car we had a 2019 Subaru Forester Sport with a touch screen that responded as fast as an IPhone. So to have a newer car (we had the 2022 Subaru Outback Wilderness) with a slower screen than one of their older cars is a little disappointing. There are even older cars than that that has a better responding screen. Like I said in the video, most cars nowadays have integrated most of the functions on a touchscreen, it should be something that works well because other than the steering wheel, it is the thing you interact with every single time you drive your car. Not everyone off roads but we definitely do.The CVT transmission stall during a steep climb of an easy dirt trail forces you to have to use momentum which isnt always easy to do depending on the trail and momentum might lead you to damage your car. Seeing the advertisement for this car going up Imogene Pass in Colorado made it seem like it's ready to take on those kind of trails but lesson learned for us. This is mostly a softroader which is ok. This car is great if it lives on the pavement but to us, we needed more capability for our specific needs. This will be a great car for most but we have since gotten rid of this car for a 4x4 because some of the trails we wanted to do required it. If you haven't seen it yet, check out what we traded it for here. ruclips.net/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/видео.htmlsi=sLthBLgNiyjfPatv

@zanesutherland406 I agree 👍🏽 I prefer the manual transmission and even the 6 speed auto compared to all the CVT transmission all these cars are getting nowadays, especially for going off road.

@@tiffinicrum589 thanks for watching!

@@Locutus720 Did you have an XL cargo box on top as well? I also live up in the hills where my commute is.

@@youraveragejoeadventures no box 2 adults and one child in car seat. I get about 24 to 26 MPG. With the Subaru branded cargo box I get about 21 on a trip up to Maine from NJ. Granted the elevation is nothing extreme so there’s that. It’s only when driving through the Adirondacks that I might see dips into the 19 MPG range fully loaded. As someone who owns multiple Subaru vehicles, the wilderness is the second worst Subaru? I’ve owned only behind the Tribeca in terms of gas mileage. A buyer has to understand that although it has a 2.4 L turbo charge engine, it’s also pushing up heavier weight and it’s gearing, final drive is also different than that of the normal outback.

@Locutus720 I agree. Our 2019 Forester Sport was getting 28-30 mpgs. In my area, we do a lot of off roading. So we thought the OBW would be perfect but it still struggled on the trails we attempted. The MPGs isn't as important to us as the capability is. Everyone has different needs and uses but we off road more than the average. It was just a surprise that for us with all our cargo, it was averaging close to what a 4x4 SUV or truck was getting. So we have since gotten rid of this car for more capability. If you haven't seen it, this is what we replaced it with. ruclips.net/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/видео.htmlsi=7zbNn-Q7iVXR2U22

Nice! I’ve been toying around with the idea of either going Gladiator Rubi or Bronco, prob is both manufacturers reliability ratings are horrible, with ford leading the way in total recalls (citation might be needed as I haven’t looked in 6 months) and Stellantis still pricing their vehicles as luxury brands (they’re absolutely not!) and the northeast mid Atlantic region isn’t exactly known for its super technical trails with great views makes makes it a hold for my adventure dad wagon😅

@Locutus720 Suprisingly, Toyota is leading recalls right now with all their new redesign 4runners, land cruisers and even the Lexus LX models all in recall. Over 100,000 cars recalled so far. Our Ford Raptor not only has more interior space and of course more cargo with the truck bed, but of course it's been way more capable which is what we needed. I can't wait to test it out in Pismo beach to see it in Baja mode. But even harder trails have been easy. Of course we're getting 16 MPGs but compared to 18-20 in our Subaru, I would easily trade some MPGs for what this truck can do. I've had 4 subarus as well and it's just been night and night in terms of capability. I know for sure the Subaru would have struggled on this trail. It can do it but maybe with some body damage lol. ruclips.net/user/shortsjMQ7etx6D58?si=4-L64hmurmNy-LLv

@gibbykirwan7788 Subaru has this specific car advertised going up Imogene Pass in Colorado, so I guess we did expect too much. We fell for the false advertisement. But lesson learn, we needed more capability and this car just isnt for us. We have since gotten rid of it for a true 4x4. If you haven't seen it, check it out here. ruclips.net/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/видео.htmlsi=4i4PpkuI4SOYomFW

@@youraveragejoeadventures Which video does SUBARU advertise a stock car going up Imogene pass.???? There are videos of the gen 5 Subaru Outback making it up there is REAL!!!! videos from JonDZ ruclips.net/video/SCOy7mKiyN4/видео.html

@lgstylo3124 it's the video they play at the dealership. And JonDZ is a friend of mine. We just camped by Hwy 395 this summer. This is him behind me and even he got rid of his Subaru for the same reasons I did. ruclips.net/user/shortsLKK7jrQsiGI?si=fdvz1QuDxBbFgx51

@@youraveragejoeadventures NICE HE GOT AWD HONDA

@@lgstylo3124 yup, his Honda build is pretty nice.

@legion1630 we car camp in the back of the car because we camp during all 4 seasons. The Outback gave us just a little more room for my wife and I to sleep in the back of the wagon. I had to sleep diagonally in the forester. The MPGs just surprised us because it was a 4 cylinder but the turbo and the higher ground clearance plus out cargo box on top really killed the MPGs. It was getting as much as a 4Runner or a 4x4 truck but at least those are more capable off road which for us, was really important. But we have since gotten rid of the Outback too because we needed a more capable vehicle with the trails we were trying to do. If you haven't seen it, you can check out what we replaced it with here. ruclips.net/video/3sS31GQ8yD8/видео.htmlsi=54LkBG7YKGwoYWWE

@juancho111488 It was first come, first serve when we went. I would always check their website to see up to date policies though. Most of the sites up there are dispersed camp sites so it's free unless they've changed it s8nce we went.