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Dear bear claw. I remember when you did your silly little seat grab over the gap and everyone thought you were so cool with your long hair and your headband. Once a kook always a kook still trying to stay relevant you’re judging was crappy biased being the Canadian fan boy…I met you once and I thought you were a total douche

See you have just overvalued amplitude and tricks. Tech and creativity should have equal value. That's what freeride is. The judges are trick riders not downhillers. It should be rider judged after the event.

I got this feeling that every single person is a judge now. Guys please... Calm down . Most of the comments are just brendog should win, brendog should have ended in top 3 and so on. Maybe he should get better score, i don't know, iam not a judge. I just appreciate that. Darren explained to us, how the judges makes their decision and to me it does make sense. I enjoyed the rampage. My favourite rider didn't won, but is it end of the world? Nah, i don't think so. Grab a bike and go for a ride instead of typing down that upset comments. Don't know how bout you folks, but for me is the best feeling i can get

Stop judging and do something you’re good at!

Bunch of B.S 😂

Great event, great riders, very poor judging.

Re-watched Drop In TV recently…how we can so quickly forget our roots…Freeride can progress as it has and as it should, but not to the point where a freeride competition no longer rewards the gnarliest lines. Semenuk had a fantastic slope style run and won rampage…It’s sad to see the identity and credibility of the competition being lost.

I mostly enjoyed this years Rampage. And I don't claim to be any sort of expert when it comes to judging an event like this, but I felt Brendog's score was an insult. It was not a winning run, maybe even top 5, but a 76 was a literal kick in the balls. The whole vibe of the event changed with that one score.

Kyle strait case his tail whip and slotted to 7th place brendog was a clean run , so its a buddy system .

Another Rampage another explanation video. I backed you last year and I back you again. Maybe a couple points here and there but I didn’t see the miss justice the rest of the internet did. I honestly think so many people watched Brendog videos leading up to the event. His camp has 3 videos a day coming out so the fans over the last 10 days feel invested in his line. Its not a free ride event, its not a slope style event, its not a best trick event, its Rampage. The fans are always going to have an issue with judging but the fans are also going to come back year after year because it’s amazing what this event has evolved into. Thanks for the explanation I think it is going to be hard to change the mindset of the keyboard warriors that feel like they got robbed.

OK, so we the riders are idiots and you the judges are genius...

“returning to a venue means it’s more dialed and more packed” which essentially means that it’s less freeride and more slope style. the hypocrisy surrounding this event is absurd now, just gonna start watching Joyride replays instead of wasting time thinking Rampage is going to be different.

I watched this and the runs again. Still like Szymons run the best, but I am no judge and no pro. Maybe it does not translate the best via flat screen or maybe I prefer front flips and double backflips over single crown trickery. In any way thanks a ton for the time and explanation.

Thanks for the great explanation, Legend. Seemingly people who hate the tricks in Rampage runs are the ones that never did them themselves, and cause that is so absurdly out of reach for them - they hate it. Same story year over year. Please do not make Rampage into some downhill run competition without a timer, lol. I was at the event this year for the first time and all guessed almost all scores correct to 3-4 pts - it was that clear of a judging for me and how great you guys did your job.

Needing a 15 minute video to justify the judging should tell you something is wrong. Unfortunately it seems like the glory days of Rampage are gone and it’s just another slopestyle contest to appeal to mass audiences. Freeriders no longer have a competitive event to call their own

Anybody complaining that Monster Darkfest is a "freeride" event now? Those are manicured even more perfectly with bulldozers...

More excuses for terrible judging eh?

I've watched every Rampage since 2014 but I don't think I will next year cause the judging has been consistently shit, ever since Barrecloth started judging TBH. The bias is so obvious. Do the sport a favor and let the opinions of others be heard, because you're ruining this incredible event.

One final note, when you compared Brendogs and Lukes run, you missed one of the flips he did when you described it. You totally didn't mention the risks, exposure of flipping the canyon. Too short dead, too long smashing into the run out. And you didn't talk about the exposure of landing on the rock. Again too short huge issues, too long death, and the speed having to be perfect.

Also worth noting the crowd who were there, booed the judges.

It's so simple. If anyone cared about opposite tail whips they'd watch slopestyle Nothing wrong with slopestyle, but it does get a bit dull after a few runs precisely because you start comparing the same tricks whether they are singles, doubles or triples etc. I am sure they are mind-bendingly difficult things to do but, that is from a rider's perspective. From a spectator's perspective, it gets a bit dull and repetitive. So if that is your criteria then fair enough. The problem is it does not reflect what spectators want from freeride. As shown in the gap between the people's champion scores and judges' scores. Ultimately, this should be a spectacle and excite spectators. Without an audience, there is no show, right? When what the judges expect becomes too far removed from what the spectators want/expect, that's a problem for any sport. It's why things like Dark Fest work: Its banger big jumps and no judges to misjudge the mood. And if your criteria is so out of line with the audience, change your criteria. Rampage as everyone has been saying should be about big mountains, rowdy, risky riding. Riding that mere mortals cannot do, not tricks mere mortals cannot do. There is a time and place for that and it's not here.

Seems to me maybe you should of never made this video and kept your opinions to yourself.

Appriciate the clarification Darren - Im on the side of raw over slopestyle. Back in the day when you were riding, fucking loved watching you dudes ride back in the early 2000's. Either way cheers for the explaination and also much respect for replying to all the comments 🤘

Listen to the community. Keep it bold and simple. Rank big hits higher than technical tricks and you are good. - Rampage only can survive if the people keep watching. So, why do people love rampage? Because they love to see how riders keep pushing the limits of what is possible on a bike. Blowing everyone's mind is key. Like Godziek and Steenbergen did. Technicality like Semenuk showed, is more for the nerds. Like I am one too, being in the sport for 24 years now. But give the crowd what they came for.

This is what ive been saying throwing a tailwhip was mad sketchy af, In a boxing match Semenuk throw more punches than Godziek even though Godziek thrown solid punches the score didn't made it. There are tons of average Rampage watchers here also count in Crankworx Slopestyle watchers I bet they are the same people who cant comprehend why Emil was over Godziek and Godziek was over Emil in the past competitions.

I think there is no doubt that the vlog footage Brendog puts out goes a long way towards his fans feeling he got robbed. If viewers had the time (and it would require almost a week off work) to watch all the build footage from all the crews, they would see that every crew puts loads into this event. No one is phoning this in, everyone is bleeding, stressing, getting up before dawn, etc. last year I had more time and I watched loads of content and BF’s crew is good at making relatable content, and it’s easier for me to understand the battleship feature than an opo tail whip. I really appreciate bearclaw making videos like this or getting on moving the needle podcast last year and defending the judges’ decisions, because in the moment, I’m always confused by the rankings. I think redbull could do a better job of explaining each line in the broadcast, tricks aside. If exposure, technicality of in run and outrun, and size stats for each feature were better explained before each rider dropped, I would better understand the judging in the moment, and be way more impressed I think as well. SG’s run looks so massive at first pass it’s so hard to see how Brendan won, but then bearclaw breaks down the exposure and technicality and I get it. It just takes a few weeks for the bearclaw explanation to come out. If that analysis could be in broadcast, that would be so much appreciated

So the explanation is "its a slopestyle event" and linechoice almost doesnt matters because everyone is on the same mountainrange.... srsly

There should be no need for a 16 min explanation video. If you want Rampage to keep its reputation, you should judge runs in a way that resonates with the majority of viewers right away. Nobody cares if the judging makes sense to you when it doesn't to millions of viewers. It's like, when people don't get your movie, the solution is not an explainer video. Create a movie that people get right away.

Rampage is no longer freeriding its just slopestyle on bigger jumps. Brendogs run was probably the most pure to what Rampage used to be. Sucks to see it go this way but it is what it is. Definitely wont be tuning in next year

Makes sense now. The judging is intentionally reductive, purely a measure of linear of feet and number of tricks. One 200' drop and over the finish line would be pretty boring to watch. Virgin may be the stupidest place on earth to hold a slopestyle comp. When most all the spectators say you got it wrong, maybe it's time to consider that maybe you got it wrong. Or at least reexamine the judging criteria.

Dude, what do you know about mtn biking? 😂😂 I judged two snowboard contests and said never again, because it’s a completely thankless job, and no matter what, everyone shits on you.

The fact that those two guys rode brendan’s line says enough about how gnarly/unique it was. If a rider is about the only one in his class to be able to make it down the run should score big points but as shown by these guys it’s not, unlike godziek or semenuk’s runs which I highly doubt will be copied anytime soon. I must admit I nearly threw my laptop out of the window when watching the event but this has put things in context and has made me understand the scoring a bit more.

you screwed the pooch, its a freeride event now...with friends judging

Thanks for putting this together for some clarity, some very valid points. Insanely difficult job being a judge. Majority of these negative people forget how talented of a rider you are and that you helped to shape this event. Most of them haven’t hit anything beyond a 10 foot tabletop 😂

His TED talk made sense to me……💯🎄🎄🎄 Fist bump for da Claw for keeping it real. 🤜🏻 🎄🎄🎄

I think the main disconnect between fans expectations and the results comes down to the weighting of what we want the event to be. Tricks are cool on massive features and I’m not a “free rider” so I can’t speak to what the sport is but the viewers can not relate to what a oppo whip on a Lilly pad feels like. This is the reason why slopestyle lost a lot of appeal and is on the down. People can relate to taking creative lines and steep shoots so that’s what the viewers want to be rewarded not some combination of flips and spins that we don’t understand. That being said your job is not to pick a winner on what the fans want the sport to be you job is to pick a winner on the criteria that you have been given.

The explanation is much appreciated. Regarding Brendog, it seems there is just a disconnect between what the viewers and judges want to see. Maybe the viewers can just relate more to what Brendog does than what the big trick riders are doing. Raw tech lines just look gnarly (especially after watching the whole build) and that is what alot of viewers think Rampage is suppose to be. They can relate because they go OTB on the 6' rock roll at the local trail. But how many viewers can even do a back flip much less one off a 60 footer. Kind of like when X-games skiers started spinning and flipping so many times you couldn't even count. The "spin to win" just got boring because it stopped being relatable.

Does anyone here care about tail whips? Let Me know with the thumbs

Thanks for the good explanation. 🙏🏼

I suggested this last year when you posted a similar video and im gonna suggest this again, judging needs more transparency. Needs to be broken down why you give a particular score to a rider. Cause at the moment it feels super arbitary. You should have a system where maximum ponits are 100, and its all broken down, for example Exposure 30, tricks 20, amplitude: 30 so on so forth. Cause last 2 years were ridiculous and really turned me (and probably many more?) away from rampage. When you have to post a video after every event why your judging looked terrible, you should look into changing something behind the scenes instead of telling us not to worry about the scores.

It's always nice to see you pal

We have all these armchair quarterbacks with little to no experience getting upset about what the experienced (former riders) rankings are. That is the funny part about all of this. I think you did a great job explaining what the judges do and why you score the way you do. I saw the front flip and was stoked by it. But one big trick without many others and riding sketchy (compared to other riders) is not a way to win. Consistency is how contests are won. Casing landings is also a reason to not score someone as high, regardless of how big their lines and tricks are. Judging is extremely difficult to do, especially when you have so much talent in the line up. Becuase of that, you need to nit pick every detail. And I guess now tricks are a big part of freeride. If you can do a big line, great! If you can do a big line and trick it at the same time....even better!

This ain't slopestyle but rampage, HUGE risks vs modesty risks, 🤫 💰

One thing you seem to not take into account is what we the audience want rampage to be. You judges have a power to shape how the sport evolves. And we the audience have made it known what we coinsider freeride, and what we would like to see rewarded as rampage lines. So why does it seem so fucking hard for you judges to realize that you do hold some responsibility to allow the sport to be what the masses would like it to be.

2 suggestions for judging next year. 1. Favor amplitude higher than all other criteria. They are all dealing with the same vertical, so if one guy chooses to go big, that’s by definition fewer small features possible in his run. 2. Don’t score for opposites on tricks. That’s a slope style thing and super subjective with ambidextrous savants like Brandon and Emil. Tricks, absolutely, bonus for opposite, no.

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I think it's great that you make the effort to explain judging and I have the greatest respect for every rider and judge out there and I love Rampage and the vibe among the riders as they continue to push themselves to do crazier tricks and the sick lines. I think the style of judging sucks because I think it brings bad vibes into such a great event. I would like to see the way of judging to change in the future, even if I can't say exactly what needs to change. but I don't think any of the riders deserve to be made bad. For me they are all winners and how you said the level is getting higher and higher. This year i personally would like to see Szymon, Tom v. St. and Semenuk on place 1 all 3 riders did so amazing runs in so different ways and in my opinion it is not possible to compare them. And that is the point where it gets frustrating for the viewers and i hope there will be some changes in the way of judging in the next years.

Aren’t you the guy who was cutting a hole between the stalls in the Garfunkels restroom?… thanks for the mediocre bj..

yo 76 on the video dog, maybe if you send a reel in theyll let you judge next year

the claw opens the can of worms