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Michelle Fairley's masterpiece here is actually a scene not from the book. Another great addition from the writers who were once so passionate about this show.
I hate catelyn. All began with her dumbass randomly accusing tyrion and capturing him
Fool Ned he should have told lady Catelyn about Jons parents, she have been a good mother for him
She prayed to all seven gods. And then she broke her promise to be a mother to him. He never referred to her as mother, just Lady Stark. All seven gods, that's including the Stranger. The Red God. Death Instead of being a mother, she was a wicked step-mom and who neglected the boy whose life she stole from the Red God. Jon was supposed to die that night as a baby. Years later, at the Twins, the Red God collected what was owed by Catelyn. Her life and her true firstborn.
They changed the scene of Jon leaving quite dramatically, in the books she’d wished that what happened to Bran happened to Jon instead, Catelyn was such an awful person in the books
It's sad to know that he's not a bastard. He's her nephew. 😢
You can see why Jon wanted to leave Winterfell so badly, he was Ned Stark's blood but treated so differently by Cat cause she couldnt hide her emotions. As hard as it was for Jon Ned made the right decision not telling Cat, she wouldve messed it up somehow like we saw with Jaime. Ned shouldve atleast stood up for him though.
Ned might have left some hidden message for his wife. And to make sure that she would get it only if he died. I'm sure it would be possible to hide the letter in some place where only Catelyn could find it. Keeping her in the dark all her life would be too cruel.
Cat is a hidden villain in this story and most people don‘t even see it. She led to so much carnage and suffering.
John loved all of his family, and they treated him like garbage even in the end they betrayed him.
After saw the scene between Alyn Oakenfist and Rhaenys this scene sucks. Being a princess she was gentle.
I think Ned should've told Catelyn who Jon's parents really were. she would've kept the secret, and treated him like her own son..the other brothers and sisters wouldn't have needed to know, as they clearly ended up loving him regardless.
He SO had needed a mom....
Crazy Ned didn’t tell Catalan the truth who would that have hurt
Unfortunately, in some societies, children born outside of marriage are still considered a sin and are often ostracized, especially in Muslim communities. They are even denied the right to inherit. What is their fault?
Nothing. People are horrible and egotistical creatures.
this scene was worse in the books
I wonder how she felt about Theon before he stabbed the Starks in the back
Imagine if catlyn found out Jon’s true parentage and Robert baratheon would be suspicious of How nice cat treated her husband’s bastard son.
I feel its good Ned didn't tell Catelyn. Less suspicious if the mother hates the bastard. Also I feel like she would spill the beans
Katelyn Stark is very intense. Such pearcing eyes, she can burn with them.
Oh catelyn, u are lowborn compare to him. You just dont know that you are talk to aegon fucking targaryen descendant
She got the troubles of her sister.
If only jon and rob were together they would have been unbeatable
She might be if not great, a good mother but a shitty person. For her, its ed's fault and she blamed jon. An animal will care about their own puppies and forget about others thats what catelyn was, no human heart, just cared about her own fleash and blood....
Uncle Benjen was tryna tell him to rethink his decision smh
Catelyn Stark wrote season 8. Bran and Sansa become monarchs. Arya is free to chart her own course and explore the world beyond and the b**tard she always hated is shipped off to the north. Out of sight. Out of mind.
If Ned predicted John Snow would have killed if Lannisters take iron throne?
John had every reason to become a villan but still choose to be a hero
Everything was fine, until they put the music on and it ruined everything, I couldn't hear the dialogues
The greatest tragedy is that ned never got to tell her the truth. 😢
Ugh breaks my heart thinking how he grew up.
Ned Stark should have told Cat about Jons true heritage and she should have kept the secret. She wouldnt have been awful to him.
You rly think she could keep a secret? She trusted Baelish of all people
@@aceclover758also it would’ve been questionable if she didn’t hate jon… this made the lie more believable
Benjen seemed like he doesnt want Jon to join the nightwatch for a reason. Like Benjen knows Jon's true parents, but Ned didnt confirm it to him.
bro, Benjen literally invites Jon to the nights watch. he only tells him to wait and enjoy life before he joins.
Was Jon brought back to life from his sickness because she prayed??
Benjen loved his bastard nephew.....its the uncles that love the black sheep of the family.....they understand
u say that like Ned, robb, arya, bran and rickon didnt love Jon too.
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It would have been nice if Jon somehow met Cat when he died and they cleared the air before Jon got resurrected
thats so stupid. A lifetime of regrets, resentment, fear, anger and guilt wouldn't be fixed with one conversation. And also, afterlife conversations sound stupid as shit.
@@nxtgaming7632 didn’t ask
@@MindfulnessGamer u still needed to be educated, u know y? cos ur fucking stupid.
I wish she was alive to see Jon become king in the north!
Worst Aunt ever.....
the woman who almost destroyed a family with a thousand year worth of legacy and the man who saved it.
catelyn stark by far, is one of the best characters in the work, both in the books and in the series. even with the world falling on her back, she didn't chicken out, she dealt with all misfortunes with courage, honor and resilience. Many hate her for the way she treats Jon Snow, as if we are all perfect, even she doesn't know the truth about Jon.
finally someone who isn't bashing catelyn, everyone else is calling her evil and shit. Thank you for having a functioning brain.
@nxtgaming7632 I definitely wouldn't call her evil. But her mistreatment of Jon isn't justified in the least. Wishing he was dying in place of Bran is an evil thing to say, despite not being evil.
I never understood why ned didnt tell her about the truth about jon, im sure she will keep the secret and wouldnt tell any one about it
thats cuz ur stupid.
Ich fand ea immer schade das Catlyn Stark nie erfahren hat das ihr Ehemann sie nicht betrogen hat und das Jon Snow nicht der Bastard von Ned Stark ist. Aber ich glaube wenn sie es erfahren hätte hätte sie mit dieser Schuld gar nicht leben können wenn sie sich schon so über Ihren Verrat wegen des gebrochenen Versprechens geschämt hat.
I hated her and I don’t hate anyone hood thing she just a character
For me they should let Robb marry Margaery Tyrell or Daenerys Targaaryen in secret
And that’s why the Seven Gods punished her at the end !
Ned should have told cat she wouldn’t have told Robert
She treats him much worse in the books
The sad thing is, if Catelyn hasn't treated Jon so poorly (god forbid Ned trusted his wife enough to confide in her the truth behind Jon's parentage) he might not have felt pushed to join the Knight's Watch in the first place. Sure the 7 kingdom's may have eventually fallen to the whitewalkers without him, but had he been by Robb's side during his war they might’ve succeeded (or maybe Walder Frey/Roose Bolton would have stabbed him in the back along with Robb and Catelyn)?
for fucks sake, Jon doesn't join the Watch because of Catelyn. he joins because he wants to make a name for himself, earn glory and honour. He wants to erase the stain of bastardy from himself and his fathers names. So that one day, he can stand beside his father proudly, and people will acknolodge him as not Ned Starks bastard, but as Ned Starks SON.
The only reason I wish she'd still be alive is so she could look at Jon in the eye and beg for his forgiveness