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I’ve had a mission route. I have flowers now.

Chris I am agreeing. As the years go on it gets harder and harder to do these early hours and miss out on life!

Yes I do. But it has to be a special kind of woman. Most women do not make in the bread business but a few do. I know 2 that did it for years and 1 is still there after 20 something years. Just remember that is a very psychically demanding so be prepared!

Mike….you are absolutely correct! Oh but don’t forget…shelves completely full with plenty of backstock!

Especially if you have a Flowers route! Just sayin’

Good luck with that! Took me quite a few years to figure that out. And I still wasn’t that good at it. Flowers makes it so complicated to read.

When I owned my Flowers bread route, yes I delivered everyday except Wednesday and Sunday. Things have changed a bit since I sold my route. A lot of guys work their stores Mon, Tues, Thurs, and Fri. But it always depends on the route. Every route has a unique selling pattern and you have to figure yours out to see what is best for your bottom line and keep your customers happy.

I'm thinking of buying a bimbo route with 7 stores. 3 stores were only hit once a week and 4 were hit twice a week. I was thinking Monday through Friday hitting them maybe 3x and no Sat and Sun. The route is only 7800 a week. What are your thoughts?

Well, it sounds like like you have a good plan to start out 3x a week rather than what the previous guy is doing. I would try it for a while and see how it goes. Working it more with fresher product tends to increase sales over time. Customers get used to the freshness and they grow accustomed to it so they continue to buy your product. Don’t forget that you will need to work back stock over the weekend to keep product on the shelves. There is no such thing as a weekend free bread man. Someone will have to refill the shelves on Sat and Sun. Those are typically the busiest days of the week in a grocery store.

@@southernbubba1190 I'm just afraid of going into debt and not liking it as much. I did a subcontracted route for a couple months. Liked it. The stores are almost an hour away. 7 stores total. 7,800 a week avg. Does it make sense? My subcontract route was 11 stores every day 7 days a week. Over 500+ miles a week.

Good luck! I hear hood things about Missions routes. Hope you like it!

If you have the liquid cash or can get financing they seem to be pretty affordable. I have been considering one.

@@Patrickpettibone-lo2rp I did a lot of research before going with Mission. They stay out of your business for the most part, and they have 25% commission. I got the route at a great price, too. I think Missions is the way to go.

I think it will be plenty. I was using a 7x16 for almost a year with my old Flowers route about 11 years ago while my bread truck was down. I was running $18k out of it and about 25 stops per day. It was tight for me but it worked. That size trailer is probably the most common used in route sales. But if you have a larger route than they bump up to 8x20 or 8x24.

@@southernbubba1190 thank you so much for the reply! Is this a 50 hour a week job?

Honestly, I can’t really say if it is a 50hr/week route. It depends on the route. How far you are from your depot and then how far your depot is from your route. Have far between stops. How quickly the back door gets opened for you to work a stop. Depends on your ability to run the route. Of course in the beginning you are going to be way slower than after working it a year. My suggestion is to talk to the one selling the route and see if you can ride along. So you can see the whole process, start to finish. That way you know the time frame to work the route. The distance between stops, everything. It will also give you first hand knowledge if this is something that you want to do or not. A lot of times, when people ride along with the owner that is the ultimate deciding factor if they want to buy it or not. I have said this a long time….you have to be a special kind of idiot to be a bread man! In other words, you either get it or you don’t.

@@southernbubba1190 incredible how long did 25 stops take you? 7 days a week?

@@southernbubba1190 would a 7 x 14 be manageable?

I personally think that $260k is way too high. That is a selling ratio of about 37:1. In my area, the PF bread routes have gone for about 25:1. I would also find out if there is other stores that might be coming to that area. It would help in making the decision. For that weekly volume and price, I would personally NOT buy that route. I think it way overpriced with little reward. Just my opinion.

NO

Absolutely no Wtf

You can own the route and not operate it. I know a few people that hire someone to run the route for them. Or the owner has multiple routes and only runs one.

@@southernbubba1190 cool because it said it was owner operator, and thankyou for responding to such an old video

Well it all depends on you if it is worth it. What exactly are you looking at with purchasing a route? In other words, why are you thinking about buying a route?

@@southernbubba1190 i been in retail for 20 yrs it always cross my mind to buy a route now I have the money to make purchase but ofcourse store is different from vendor. I'm just thinking is money worth it. Thank you for replying God bless you I know how it is being a vendor im a grocery manager for korger for 15 yrs I have great relations with my vendor they take of me and I do the same for them.

Well….if you want more freedom as in, delivering to your stores on your schedule(within receiving times of course), not having a boss to answer too everyday, then this might be for you. Granted, everything falls on you when it comes to the route so don’t forget about that. If you would like to talk about this more, drop me an email.

@@southernbubba1190 i appreciate you big time. I'm actually meeting with the seller and talk about numbers. Just want let you I appreciate all my vendors when I see to work for kroger. God bless

What would you add?

Don’t do it lol

Well….You need to find out what company you would like to buy a route with. You will need to apply to that company. If you are accepted, then they will run credit checks on you since you will be finance a large sum of money. You will also need to have a hefty down payment. Varies with each company. Then it is kind of a waiting game until all the paperwork is signed and you take ownership. That is a rough summary of course.

Not saying it can't be done. Just a lot of headaches. I know a few that own multiple routes and they are selling them now.

What exactly do you mean?

I get it. I was a route owner/operator from 2004-2017. Don't miss it at all. I think I just like to punish myself by running Pepperidge Farm routes here and there to keep me from buying any more routes!

Yes, you can hire someone to do it. But you will still need a job for yourself to pay your bills. More than likely.

It could be possible. I would say if you have a 20 ft trailer you could. Build shelves in it and put the snacks up too and strap the bread stacks to the wall underneath the snacks.

I don’t know really much about these routes. I know they can be very good and not a ton of stress. But I haven’t known anyone that has owed one in like 15 years. So unfortunately I am not the guy to ask about these routes. Sorry!

@@southernbubba1190 thank you love the honesty most of these routes are not directly linked too the company many have little paperwork from what I've seen.

That is true! Everyday is an adventure as a bread man!

What is a scam, lie, and crazy involvement?

Really!... You are the only one that has complained about it.

On Tuesday and Saturday deliveries you bring in enough bread for the next day also. No deliveries on Wednesday and Sunday. So you need to go “pull up” at your grocery stores. Need to refill the shelf on your off delivery days. That is you “pull ups”. You can do it or pay someone else so you get 2 days off a week.

@@southernbubba1190 thanks for the response brother! Take care

How much do you typically pay someone to do your pull ups?

Sounds like that wasn’t worth it for the pay and the miles travelled.

I have dealt with a lawsuit but it wasn’t with PF.

Any suggestions for lawyers I’m in the southwest looking for national one

I don’t know if any that might fit your needs out there but I do know a guy in AZ that was looking for one. He did talk to one or two. I can reach out to him and get the name and number if you would like. Let me know.

@@southernbubba1190 yes please do if you get chance thank you brotha

how many racks of bread would this be?

Frank....You could run that easily out of a 7'x16' trailer. With room to grow. I have run routes out of that size trailer that do over $12,000 a week.

If I had to guess....30 trays a day. Maybe 35.

It depends on PF's rules. Typically, companies want a route to have a certain volume before they will create it. At Flowers for instance, the last I heard, in order to create a new route it had to average $10,000/week. I am sure PF is the same way but I don't know the numbers.

Just watched your other video on bread routes, talking about the couple you said moved to Florida and is doing great. maybe that's what he is doing. A 'combo rout'?

I don't know anyone that works a route with 3 stores in 15 hours and makes $2k/week. Can the money be correct, yes! Depends on the stores, plus Bimbo has half the bread rack. But to do it in 15 hours...I call BS.

@@southernbubba1190 after long consideration I backed out lol. I did a ride along with someone he was trying to sell me his route i heard the route had 5 different owners in 10 years... big 🚩 for me. But yes I think the money might be right for those other guys, theres a few guys that only 3 stores ex:(Costco, Sam's, and a publix). They told me if u ever get into bread go for quality over quantity, less stops Biggers stores if ever decide to jump back into the thought of doing it again.

@@southernbubba1190 there's a lot of things I don't have to worry about with working at frito lay I don't need to make over 100k so I'm not going to stress myself out about it

That is mostly true in my experience.

Thanks!

What time do u start when are u off

My dad delivered for Ideal before it was bought by Flowers and I barely even had my drivers license and now I wonder how he was so efficient.

That's awesome!

It always depends on the route. Since I do not own a route anymore, when run one for someone, I get to the depot at 5:30 am. Getting home varies on the route. normally between 11am-2pm.

One word....Experience!

Well Gator that is a good question! I know when I had my route I was grossing about $105k/yr. I know people that gross $60k/yr and I know others that gross around $200k/yr. It all depends on the area in which a route is located, the size of the route and what products the people buy on the route. You don’t want a high producing route that sells nothing but store brand bread because you don’t make hardly anything on it. And if that area is selling store brand mainly, you are more than likely in a low-income area and they are not going to buy the more expensive breads. You want the areas that have the demographics that purchase that product so you can make more money with less units sold. Hope that helps.