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I need a Harley softail springer. I’m going to get one and I’d rather it be brand new but it has to have the 21 inch front tire. A super sport would be super bad ass 🤤.

There is no way they set up tooling in Thailand for 1 year. The RevMax will never again be made in the U.S. Guaranteed! For 13K one can get a used Dyna with money to fix it up decently.

That's really cool and great sharing bro. Have a great New Year brother 🎉

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The sportster has bern total TRASH for 15yrs

Indian Scout would win on looks and sound . But if you rode them all the Nightster comes out on top . My 23 Nightster Special is a awesome bike . Would love to see that Vulcan try to dust My 23 CVO Roadgride 121VVT not a chance . The Nightster does have a sales & image problem in America & Australia . Rest of the World love them .

I don’t think power is a big important factor if we’re talking about a true beginner bike. Which is why I agree with the Vulcan S being the best for that market. The Nightster and even the Scout 60 can be a little much for someone not comfortable riding.

180 degree twins sound like crap IMO.

Vulcan S was my first bike. It feels cheaply made and extremely underpowered. My second bike was the Sportster S which I love. But I did try the Indian Scout, Rebel 1100 and Shadow which were all great. But I do want a V-Rod and/or M109r.

Idk that I want a Chinese owned company to have my veteran status.

Bring back the super glide duel disc brakes big gas tank keep prices as low as possible could rework the standard in to a super glide comes black or red no black out part or chrome just a raw bike that can be affordable bike that the customer can build to there style

The Bronx was a real missed opportunity. It needs to be developed. I think it would be a huge hit to have a modern streetfighter standard in the lineup. Also, I’d take a page out of the Nismo division of Nissan, and make parts for historical models to support the retro and antique crowds and keep the old models running. Make it look like you support all aspects of motorcycling.

Using your list, Vulcan S, all day. It’s a cruiser, so bleeding edge performance is irrelevant in my eyes. But that bike is plenty comfortable. Going outside of the list, Kawasaki’s Z650 RS is what I’d go with. It’s the same engine as the Vulcan S, but it’s a standard instead of a cruiser which suits my taste better.

Nice T-shirt!

I enjoyed your points on HD. I test rode the Honda 1100. It's a fantastic moto. The cruise control is such a great feature. I need to try some HD's out....

What about the Honda Shadow Phantom or Aero?, I've always heard nothing but good things about them, especially when it comes to entry level bikes.

Great list and comparison. If the price of each bike were identical I’d pick the Nightster because I’ve ridden a bunch of them and they are a blast. But I wouldn’t get the gray one. Lol.

as someone who owned a 2014 KVS I can tell you at 6'2" and 260 that little Vulcan carried me all over the place and it didn't feel underpowered at all. I had it for about 3 years. There is another beginner cruiser that gets overlooked tho is the Suzuki C50 Blvd. Roughly 9200 bones, red and grey color choices, 53hp/50f ft.lbs torque lol, 4.1 gallon tank, and she's a bit chunky coming in wet and ready at 610 lbs. But hey it's shaft driven. Have a good one

Adaptive cruise for the win!!! I have one car with it and one without and I forgot sometimes 😂

What gives me gruff is they’re trying to sell this like the replacement dyna…tis not lol. Rev Max is here to stay I get it, but like show Indian how it’s done with a liquid cooled FXR or Dyna alternative that’s not a softail. Give us a bike that makes the community excited again and is fun and forward thinking. The nightster is a great starter bike, but HD can do way better.

I have a 2024 Nightster, can confirm, the bike flies. The stock exhaust is gross, but even a quick slip on fixes that. It is light, fast, fun AF. Not to mention, the base Nightster comes with ABS and Traction Control. Most of the base Indians do not have that... So knocking the price alone is debatable. Thanks for your 2 cents mate!

Where’s the Yamaha bolt R??

Rebel1100 FTW

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Biggest problem is they can't sel the damn things. They're a bike that's half finished, they couldn't finish the left hand side.

Indian has an adaptive cruise control patent from a few years ago. Maybe harley does as well

Who cares about the power? The nightster looks like ass

I'm an old fart and my generation confused my elders too. So why do I get the feeling watching this, that beards, shaved heads, tattoos, body piercings and often backwards baseball hats is the modern version of slick hair, polished shoes, with suit and tie?

Great to see another Boston rider on the tube! I’m in Dorchester.

You blew it. You left out the offerings from Royal Enfield. RE has two current 650cc cruiser models that are better than both the Honda and Kawasaki, the Super Meteor, and the Shotgun. Both are sub $8,000 bikes, even in their top of the line trims. They both certainty look better than either the Honda, or Kawasaki. As for reliability, they have a three year, world wide warranty. If you don’t want to go total cruiser, RE also makes a standard, scrambler, and a cafe racer style from the same 650 platform.

i have a 19 sporty, harps back to the AMF era, i get compliments on it all the time, especially by older men who remember the older models. but this new model looks bubbly af. curved lines on that engine. looks......kinda feminine to me. it does have some positives, like a 6th gear and great hp and power. not enough to offset the goofy engine look. i did take a good second look at that rebel 1100 tho. but i wanted a piece of americana history and heritage. so for HD to move it oversees, and if i were in the market right now, id have gone for the rebel 100%. I have a honda shadow from 2001, still starts to this day with everything stock on it -- except for pipes :)

The nightster isn’t an entry level bike into motorcycling any more than a R6 is the nightster is an entry level bike into Harley ownership which is something completely different. I have no problems with them moving the bike’s production to Thailand but I think there are more problems with the bike than that . I am yet to see one on the road and can’t think of a single reason for buying one apart from the badge on the tank it is the new Street of the range. If I was looking into an entry level cruiser to get into motorcycling I would either buy a second hand 883 sportster or a Royal Enfield 650 super meteor (or failing that a Royal Enfield shotgun or bear) all of which can be purchased for about half the price of the nightster.

The vulcan s is a turd lol. A more comparable bike would've been the z900.

The crowd that cares that much about it bing made in America, don't buy nightsters anyway. Same as with all the revolution motor bikes historically. They're into nostalgia. That's not who the revmax bikes are for anyway. The revmax platform is for the sport bike crowd. People who care about performance, weight and technology etc. Those people don't care whether it's american made or not. It'd be nice if it was but I'm sure it's not a deal breaker. As every sport oriented bike since forever has been made out of the country. Your talking about two riders that couldn't be more different. I hope the move brings more competitive pricing.

Another Corporate tactic aimed at taking money and jobs out of America while charging us Premium Prices for the Recreational items.

The Vulcan S is an interesting bike, and you're right - Kawi nailed it with the Ergo-Fit right there at the time of purchase.

What's wrong with Gray its the new Black

LOL @ 4:55 - the exhaust looks like the tube on my leaf blower.

What an awkward time for Harley, 2 rear shocks while also making a "sportster" with a mono. It's like when GM made the Grand National GNX and the Corvette in the same year, but the Grand National smoked the vet.

The RevMax bikes sell better in other markets to begin with... North America only accounts for about 25-28% of all Harley sales the last few years.

Indian Scout for me. Looks , sound and believe it or not some aftermarket support. That was Harley’s formula for years not so much for the liquid cooled bikes.

Nailed it on each one. I remember when the Bronx was first mentioned. Harley got cold feet on the whole design and played it "safe" with the sportster S lol seeing how well the Pan America did, the Bronx would of been right at home. 100% Ryker is butt ugly

I say start off with an ADV bike like the honda crf300 or even the new fuel injected suzuki drz4s. These bikes are lighters and smaller plus you can go ride some dirt at the same time... but out of the 4 probably a honda rebel.

Great list. Kawasaki is bringing the 900 back to the US. That looks like a pretty good deal. I didn't realize that Honda was on the only one with Cruise Control.

the market really really needs more reverse trikes. can am does not care about anything right now because they know they are the only ones that sell them. If Harley came out with one, I would totally be 100% interested in making the switch. I think it was a patent issue that BRP had that stopped other companies from producing reverse trikes, that has to be coming up soon.

I like the idea about the 131 engines but maybe don’t stick an ss on the side 😭

Need a automatic to have adaptive cruise control

New colors and price increases

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