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Almost no one wants to hear this, because it seems like it has taken on something of a religious nature, and questioning the label makes you somehow a heretic. It's almost like when we all "knew" that the Sun orbited the Earth. I have actually heard people say things like "it's 15/16's American" If you ask to see the data, they look at you like a heathen.

If you're growing for nuts rather than lumber though, the Chinese genetics are ideal. I don't think there's any proven chestnut lumber species in circulation presently.

I live in zone 8b northwest florida and have three dunstan chestnuts and an unknown chinese variety. the dunstan I believe was developed in florida. I have them on a relatively well drained area and they are doing well. letting enough sunlight seems to be an issue. the squirrels are another issue. We average about 60 inches of rain. For 2020 nearby pensacola got 88.41 inches of rain. The chinese chestnut can tolerate some moisture, but I have seen standing water can do them in. I have not planted a dunstan that is chinese hybrid in a super wet place. The american chestnut will likely never come back in the south due to the number of chinese and dunstan chestnuts in the area. The pollen is wind borne, but still a well adpated hybrid sounds ok.

Dunstan chestnut trees are only a few generations in, very little evolution happens until way farther down the line

@@altelephono3373 Unfortunately due to founders effect plus a couple of generations of artificial selection that isn't likely to happen. It is like trying to get wolves by raising litters of Yorkies with a starting population of 4 dogs total. Dunstans are mostly Chinese in genotype as well as phenotype: [(Chinese x American) x Chinese] = patented Dunstan cultivars, which you never see for sale. All three of the Chinese trees used in the crosses came from orchard lines, with one singular American tree as the same American tree on both sides of each Dunstan tree's family tree. Chinese trees, especially those from orchard lines, grow short and spreading rather than straight and tall. Then out of hundreds of seedlings, a handful of trees were selected to be patented Dunstan cultivars. They were selected for orchard characteristics rather than timber characteristics. Patented Dunstan x Patented Dunstan aka [(Chinese x American) x Chinese] X [(Chinese x American) x Chinese] = seedling Dunstan sold as "Dunstan" trees. So a narrow genetic bottleneck (4 original trees, 3 of which were Chinese) plus selection for Chinese characteristics rather than American characteristics hampers any evolutionary shift towards a timber type population. I have two Dunstan trees in my backyard. I'm not saying they are terrible trees, just that it is misguided to expect them to be anything other that what they were bred to be. Orchard type trees that attract deer by producing large amounts of commercial quality chestnuts.

@@danielsmith336 add to that, the 3 Chinese trees that they chose to do the breeding with, were subpar. A co op that buys chestnuts in Ill. pays lower prices for dunstans, because the taste is just not as good as what others are growing. I heard this from a guy who grows chestnuts in Pickneyville, Ill. I worked at the University of Missouri's nut tree farm and cultivar trial, and I had my choice of any in the study to take cuttings from when I went to improve my own plantings. They had a Dunstan tree there, and it's wasn't a bad tree, but there were many others that were better, so I went with them. I wouldn't have a problem with people who want to grow and sell a Ford, but calling it a Lamborghini kind of ruins it for me.

What needs to happen is for them to release the American chestnut GMO

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@@winterszhuzhupets2Are you referring to now what is called Darling 58?

@@thechestnutking736 yes

@@thechestnutking736 I also sent you a link to a full-blooded American chestnut

Hey man you’re missed on the firewood hoarders club 😉 I have some pure American trees growing myself. There’s a couple short videos on my channel if you feel like checking them out.

@@ericwanderweg8525 i wouldnt mind seein them

Here's a real American chestnut. ruclips.net/video/oNxTvFtN7dE/видео.html

It's too bad that the Dunstan has been marketed as if it were somehow mostly American. The grafted tree, "Revival" was a good cultivar, but it is not even discussed anymore. I'm all for planting chestnut trees, but people should be clear eyed about what they are planting. There are many other chestnut varieties that are superior to Dunstan seedling trees, and they are not being planted because of the dominance of Dunstan with its marketing. If you have not already grafted your Dunstan seedlings to better varieties and would like any help with that, feel free to contact me. I'm not selling anything, so that's not what this is about, but depending on where your property is, you could be growing things easily twice as good. I like Eaton, Qing, Pandora, Black Satin, Jenny, Peach, AU Homestead, and others.

I have Canterbury family from west Virginia too