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Do you think it can hold up to recoil in a .35 Whelen?

Please also explain who makes the best ED glass in the world.

What ring height and base height setup are you running here?

I’m sorry that you got guys complaining because they don’t know how too use their head on wtf the dials do they clearly affect the impact on a up down left right bases I’ve seen kids figure it out faster than these guys

For hunting and closer range shooting including personal defense situations, SFP is much better than FFP. IMO.

Funny how it's Athlon vs Vortex. When it should be China vs Philippines. They may actually be made in the same factory. Who knows!

great video.. question, at the 18:41 video mark, when explaining bullet drop, where did you get 1000? you divided 500 by 1000, but i am just curious where the number 1000 comes from..

Thats what i wanted to verify b4 i go tryin to sight my scope in. Sum1 had mentioned it to me after i quit tryin for the day. When adjusting scope vertically, it moves reticle opposite direction. I needed to go down, so i turned it in the down direction & i couldnt even see where my bullet was hittin most the time. Time & time again, i ran into the same issue. I wasted too much ammo gettin frustrated with it. I was also pretty hangry, so i just put it away. That was a couple days ago...lol, then we were hit with more weather.

Id much rather have a second focal plane scope for hunting. If you're turning down your magnification you're aiming with your zero anyway and your reticle will be much easier to see. Second focal plane shouldn't be a deduction, its just different.

This is simple, if at 100 yds your point of impact is 2 inches above your point of aim, you have to adjust your elevation turret 2MOA in the down direction as marked on the turret. Conversely if your point of impact is two inches to the right of the point of aim at 100 yds you have to adjust your windage turret left 2MOA in the direction left as marked on the turret. Now if your rifle is zeroed at 100m but you want to hit a bullseye at 200 yds. Calculate a solution using a ballistic calculator. In this example the bullet drop at 200 yds relative to a 100 yd zero is 4 inches. Meaning the point of impact using this 100 yd zero would be 4 inches below the point of aim. To correct your scope for this distance - 4 inches at 200 yds ~ 2MOA. To correct, adjust the elevation turret in the up direction by 2MOA (typically eight clicks). Note all elevation turrets are marked up or down and all windage turrets are marked right or left. Most good scopes will also allow you to adjust distance related parallax either at the side or front. Note FFP scopes windage and elevation readings in scope are accurate at all magnifications whereas with SFP scopes MOA/MIL readings are accurate at a fixed magnification.

I can hit 2 inch group's at 500 yards with my sfp

So, I have been giving this some thought as to why the current state may be the case, because it is stupid. However, if you think about the mechanics of a scope, when you turn the turret, you are essentially turning a screw that adjusts the reticle inside. If elevation turret rotates in the horizontal (that is, LEFT-RIGHT) plane, but the screw it turns is perpendicular, or vertical, as this is the easiest for internal mechanics. Same for the windage turret, which rotates in the vertical plane (UP-DOWN), but the screw it moves is in the horizontal plane. I would imagine that switching these turrets would be much harder mechanically. Now if you know how screws work, you can see how turning it clockwise moves the screw (and the reticle) down, from the turret towards the scope body ( think how you would turn the screwdriver when "screwing it down"), and moving the screw/reticle up would be counter-clockwise, just like when you are "unscrewing" something. Similarly, for the windage turret, when you "screw down"/clockwise, reticle moves to the left, and when you "unscrew, reticle moves to the right. For a left-handed windage, these would be opposite, but the principle of moving towards or away from scope body remains the same.

If they just switched the windage and elevation turrets, we wouldn't need explanation videos.

Honestly, I find the whole concept of elevation adjustment on top and windage adjustment on the side seriously flawed. It's counter-intuitive. That's why there are so many people out there asking questions like "which way do I turn this to adjust", that's also why many scopes have the windage turret marked 1L, 2L, 1R, 2R and so on, to make it clear which way is left or right. If you think about it, the direction of the rotation of the side turret is UP or DOWN, these directions should reflect ELEVATION adjustment. But all the scopes out there make the side turret for windage, which is adjustment left or right... Similarly, the top turret rotation is LEFT or RIGHT, and it should be used for left or right adjustment (windage). But someone had a bright idea to make it the elevation turret, and now everyone is guessing if they are going up or down. This is ridiculous. Yeah, you get used to it with time, but I always found this utterly stupid. Elevation and windage turrets should switch places.

You made understanding scopes ALOT harder!

Great video, one Q, have a 22-250 Hornady 50gr A-Max out of a Bergara B-14/ 22" barrel, your calculations don't work out when I tried them, always have shot a Mils scope, you know the ballistics on the bullet, I know the drop and have shot it but your calculations don't jive with my dope, Can you fill me in, you said you would, or explain the formula you used please , just the simple like 300yds, and mil adjustment please, Keep more video's coming . Great job, 👍👍👍👍

I thought that if you had a mag of say 4x16, your mildot measurements were right at 10x mag. I've got a 3x9 mildot so I suppose that they are most accurate at full mag. Might be talking out the top of my head as I'm new to shooting and here in the uk we are pretty limited without a ticket, so its shooting/hunting to not more than 50yrds. Interesting channel

you remind me of Ian Punitt 12.28.23

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Thank you sir. Good job.

I mean a center x reticle makes ffp vs sfp totally irrelevant. Lmao

awesome video love the amount of detail involved

Please delete your channel and quit wasting our time.

One scope has 60 moa adjustment, the other 80 moa adjustment. Am I correct in saying that it is possible that the scope with less adjustment may have larger internal glass optics?

I bought some mid range binoculars: Hawke binoculars that have ED glass. But not sure if they are fully multi coated. When I look at the moon some times the light reflects thorogh the eye peace wich is a bit of putting. There is like a half moon shape of light on the eye peace. Other than that the image is very sharp . And as a bird watcher .The deatail on a small bird like a nuthatch is absolutely amazing. The blur . Iv used swarski binoculars in the past . And I would say regarding the brightness of the image And sharpness. The simerlarty is uncanny. They say 12 x 50 are bit as good as 10x 42 but I beg to differ.

If you need angular measurements, then you are moving the barrel linearly because it is straight therefore giving it the correct angle to produce an trajectory for the bullet to follow an accurate arc.another words the bullet moves in an arc and the barrel is in a straight line.

So after you calculate the distance you find out the corresponding yards value that 1 mil corresponds to of that calculated distance, In this case it is since 1 mil = 1 yard in 1000 yards then 1 mil = (500 yards x 1 yard/ 1000 yards) = 0,5 yards. Next you convert the yards amount to (0.5 yards) to inches which is 18 inches after all the math then lets say the BDC calculator gives an inch drop of 69.5361 inches you will now divide 69.5361 inches by 18 inches which is ~ 3.9 mils and one mil vertical click is +0.1 mil so you will rotate the vertical alignment turret 3.9/0.1 = 39 times? Now after all that you will zero your scope again to acquire then do math for another target or you must zero your scope again when you can use holdover method correct?

Many people I know use MOA so they zero their scopes at 100 yards then use holdover method to shoot targets below or over 100 yards.

I really like our work!! but I keep hearing you say after you realign your scope (raising the scope up and/or shifting it sideways(parallax) by a certain number of clicks in MOA or MIL) then adjusting your barrel is a bit confusing? After you have done the math or fired a few shots and making estimated calculations off of that (all that realigning is called zeroing your scope right?) then aim again to take the calculated shot right? Correct me if im wrong but I dont see people realigning their barrels after adjusting the Parallex, vertical or windage turrets or all of them but when you say "realign the barrel" if youre referring to just aiming again instead of an internal mechanical adjustment of the barrel then forgive me for all the text😆.

How is the eye box on max magnification? Is it loose or tight?

when you're adjusting your barrel to be in tune with the scope how do you know youre adjusting it the right way??

One of the best reviews I've seen out there, well-done.

So adjusting my mil after used to MOA, in correspondence to 100y 1moa movement would be 3 clicks on my .10 adjustments?

Is crosshair really thin or thick getting older eyes

It's absolutely insane how dozens of internet searches don't yield a clear answer. Why can't one single person say "Up moves point of impact up"? Scope manuals give instructions on some of the most obvious and intuitive details, yet neglect to dedicate one sentence to make this clear.

i have to take a bottle of Tylenol after watching this, sigh.. I ll watch it 10 times again before it dissolves in my brain, Thanks

Wind is an unpredictable variable

You're assessment of when to use it is not accurate because you're not considering ELR or UL are shooting where you're going out to 3 miles and you're running out of elevation a second focal plane scope is the only thing that's gonna give you extra elevation that you can't get out of a first focal plane

Great shooting information brother I would like to know I have some 3/18/50 zeiss scopes and it shows left impact and I move to the right it goes further to the left why can you tell me I would surely appreciate it? Beagleman

Why are the Swarovski optics so bright and crisp? For my eyes, the Kowa has a yellow haze. Also, does anyone have light sensitivity to car lights at night?

Truth! ????

3006 is better than 308

the only religion that has a torture device for its symbol 😂😂

I really appreciate your approach to analyzing this scope. After a lot of research - basically comparing various scopes' features, price, etc. - this scope seems the best one for my needs all things considered. But I am concerned about the tracking. 0.55 MOA off seems to be a lot for a long range scope that is designed more for precision shooting than hunting (but I could be wrong). If you don't use the reticle for holdovers then it is a moot point.

Clear as mud...

Did I miss something? Watching your video and you describe differences between MOA and Mills which was pretty good, and you referenced how not to combine the two but then you use Mills to calculate for yards. Milliradians are metric, not standard. 1 mill is equal to 10cm at 100m. 1m is equal to 1.0936 yds. So while your formula is correct, your output is off due to the two systems not meshing. If you use mills, calculate in meters, and THEN convert to standard if you so choose. Don’t calculate with 1 system and the other simultaneously or else you need to plug in the formula for conversion in as well which just complicates things more. It took years for me to be able to use the two interchangeably. I suggest for new shooters to either work with one or the other. Since I prefer mills, I never use feet or yards. The only time i use standard system is on the speedometer in my car or when talking to normal people on how far something is. But when I’m on foot hiking or navigating but especially while shooting all distance is metric. Finally, I realize that .0939 is not a big difference and the effect is negligible. However, this is supposed to be about precision shooting and the calculations for precision shooting. Rounding down numbers is the anti thesis exact opposite of precision. If you’re talking about just doing some Kentucky windage and making it work. Hey more power to you I get it. But I’ve been an instructor very long time, and when I first became instructor, my instructors told me if you’re gonna teach something teach the right way at the beginning and let them screw it up down the line.

So if I’m aiming center and hitting high left I’m adjusting down and right with the arrows on turret?

Kind of necropost I guess, but it does have illumination, and a really nice one as well. I've had my scope for three years now, and it works flawless. Only downside is a slightly narrow field of view on 2.5 which can be less desirable during quick shots in close range for example running hogs or deers. Other than that, Top tier for the money spent

Sorry my guy, had to bale. You studder too much and spend way too many words saying something simple. And that was only a few minutes in.

For anyone who prefer SFP reticles, the Athlon Midas BTR gen 2 4-5-27x50 is what you want.