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@@castro619a wow. How much work?

@@newsboyaudio undo the staples on the side, peel the sock back, then apply “3M 30NH clear “ glue lightly to bond the wires and Mylar together. The Mylar has a hole in it, but the glue sealed it and they sound perfect.

.... oh and there is 4 level control adjustments on the front plate in between the cooling fins on the right side.

Nice, I'm still not sure its worth it. I mean I love lossless audio, its just that the other issues I face with the device (and its cost) just makes it unpracticle.

Hyper X is the Midimon's behind them.

I appreciate you watching my videos. There are many that also claim that it wont make a difference, and doesn't measure different. I have heard dented, and I couldn't hear it. I could feel insecure though about it. Your channel is very cool. Thanks for watching!

Very nice! That is a bit high, I see them at $500 here. But if it includes shipping a good price. I sold mine I think for $500.

I highly disagree with you on the dust issue. The Ethos users are reporting problems all over the place. I also didn't bash the speakers. Electrostatic has a problem with short lived panels, and all of the makers experience it. The panels I had also had the issue, and the martin logans own support forums, as well as the unofficail ones, disagree with you. I got the money back on the speakers, and I will be purchising more electrostatics in the future, but I prefer the magnepans, or even the non-panels (like the Focals) more.

Thank you for your comment. I offer my opinion in the video. I prefer the Magnepan due to the issues Martin Logan has, and the increased cost. The Ethos sound better though, but the reliability of the panels past 20 years is a massive problem. This is assuming the new Quasi Ribbons are more reliable, without de-lamination issues. The added cost, especially considering getting new panels for the Ethos every 10-20 years is a massive problem. I may get a pair of ESL's next.

The tweeters on these are aluminium. I haven't seen any references showing that the concept 90's have Beryllium. Do you have any material on that, been trying to find sources for them. The ones I have are almost certainly aluminum as they've been replaced and are not Black Color. Which is part of my concern. They sound great, none-the-less, but I want to test them to see how they perform. I got a microphone, but have been extremely busy.

Woot! I've had lots of issues with these switches. Glad it helped.

Your woofer on the HIVI should not deteriorate or crack. You need to apply no products to it. and there is no reason you need to touch them. They should be good for many years. The only woofers I knew that deteriorate or crack are old Paper cone drivers where the paper is untreated. I don't think anyone makes them any more, and haven't since atleast the 70s. As far as anything that breaks, you can recone it or get replacements. I do not see many modern speakers that break. Finally, you may need to replace the foam inserts on some speakers around every 20 years. Again, nothing to apply can slow this (That I know of) and its a simple thing you can do yourself.

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I'm not sure you get that electric isn't water. And honestly, I've read this five times and I can't even figure out if you're for or against cables. Also using your analogy, you do realize that amplifiers are built with power conditioning in their power supplies. Thus putting the water filter on your faucet. So are you saying your amplifier isn't designed right? And if so why don't you buy a better amplifier as that is cheaper and better then trying to fix a broken amp with wires?

Just an fyi, they clearly have veneer on them.

@@newsboyaudioI just noticed that. 😂 sorry I thought they were unfinished. The color is lighter than I’m used to using

@@purplerider2362 best of luck.

You clearly didn’t watch the video. I’m not sure what you’re talking about. My review was positive towards the speakers. I also defend the speakers in the comments. I only addressed the criticism others had. In fact I compared the tweeter to a tweeter that costs 2,000 and claim their very good. By the way… The focal tweeter I compare them to is widely considered one of the best in the world. But I’m sorry, the HIVI speaker is 300 and it’s not perfect. If it was, hivi would sell it for more. The competition at this price is also tropically bright, You’re not hearing much at 25hz, and you’re ignoring the companies own claims. And the reality of a small woofer. I suggest you look at any frequency responses or take measurements. I took my own measurements. The cross over works as designed and they’re a bit bright.

They have an amazing tweeter. Its just a bit bright, but its exceptional. If you fix the cross over, it fixes this but keeps the amazing tweeter. You should probably watch the video

13m^2 isn't that small. It can handle bigger, but my room is about that size.

Still have them

hi...I sent you an email

@@briancampbell7712 didn’t get it

@@newsboyaudio is this the email @newsboyaudio ?

I like them a lot.

I have a tremor since my birth. Some days its worse then others. It is not harmful to me, but makes me a poor electrician and camera man. 😛

Sorry, Next up for me is some ESL's. Got a few more speakers to sell first.

I guess they figured you’d buy the smaller one for that.

You can use one channel of the pre out for a powered sub. The powered sub amp should have an adjustable crossover and gain with which to tune the sub to your speakers and desired level and your subs volume will then be controlled by the main volume knob on the amp just fine. I have one of these set up this way running a small set of Klipsch speakers and a powered Klipsch sub and it works great.

Not 3,500... No. Not on the used market. Sorry. The ML Ethos can be had for between 2-3,000. There is one on Ebay for 2,250 right now. The Magnepans 1.7s cost about 2,000. I see one listed for 1,300 and many more at 1,500-2,000 But I echo your sentiment, and so does the video.

@@newsboyaudio The only items I would never buy used are speakers. They are too likely to have been stressed.

@@67daltonknox sorry, they don’t get “stressed” speakers are generally the most reliable components in electronics. I’m not sure what you heard this. The biggest concern is clipping of an amp, but you can hear that type of damage. I recommend used and buy used almost always.

@@newsboyaudio Electronics are mostly passive. Unless something is burnt out, they rarely fail. Speakers of any sort are mechanical devices with moving parts. Most of these fatigue with time and abuse. I could show you some BMW speakers where the cones literally disintegrated. So, no I will not buy used speakers and back to my original comment that the M-Ls cost $3,500 more than the Maggies

​@@67daltonknox I'm sorry, but you got it backwards. And thanks to my volunteer work, I get first hand experience in this, and have stats to show this. Note: REPAIRCAFE rocks! Speakers, typically will not fall apart or disintegrate. The only time I had an issue with that, was either abuse, old paper cones that use to dry out and fall apart, or with electrostatics. Kevlar, Aluminum, and most Plastics are good for 100+ years. Anything modern should be good for many years, except super cheap stuff. Technically, the paper cones can be re-coned, and I haven't seen a pure paper woofer for around 40 years, so really only a problem with REALLY old speakers that didn't use a coating. Also, you have problems with the rubber surrounds around the 20-30 year mark. That is very easy (self) repair. And, should something fail, there are always parts available for speakers, or there are ways to fix them yourself, or hire someone to fix. Though, problems are extremely rare. There are also other exceptions, like the ones in the videos. Maggies, should be good for a very long time after version 1.6.... They SAY they have solved the delamination issue with their quasi ribbon design, yet it hasn't been 50 years to see. Maggie continues to support ALL of their speakers, so repair kits are available. So before that, make sure to see if they need repair. Electrostatics have two problems, delamination and dust. They panels typically need to be replaced or repaired (like ESLs). Martin Logan supplies parts for ALL of their speakers, they every produced. Though cost of thoose parts can be a problem, though their performance keeps their owners happy. As with electronics, there are more problems then with speakers. Electrolytic capacitors are the biggest one. They have a general lifespan of 15 years. Though many will last further. Tubes also fail, regularly. After that, you get into dates of 50 years. And yes, you can repair many electronics if you have a failure, but not many IC boards are repairable if parts stop getting supplied. And some units may have limited supply of parts in them, that if they fail you can get stuck with something you can't fix. Plus many other problems, especially with inexpensive electronic. The biggest issue with repair is safety. Though it can be done, caution must be practiced around electronics. Unpluging it isn't enough. See repaircafe or training for this. I will try to come up with a video for this stuff. Maybe a guide buying used speakers would be good. Speakers end up beign extremely safe to buy, used. Just make sure to fully test them, with reliable equipment upon receiving them. And SHIPPING INSURANCE!

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Thats interesting, they are measured bright but not 5 db bright. They are measured 1-2 db bright. Which is not unusual for a speaker this price to be a bit off. Maybe you have a problem with your original crossover. But I talk about this in the review, and mention the crossovers.

@@newsboyaudio on the last page of the HiVi 2.2 thread on diyaudio forum you find my measurements with and without the crossover, 5db too much, with the new crossover design i tamed down the tweeter by 10db, but I'm young, older people could prefer more highs

@@newsboyaudio at first the crossover aimed for a more linear response on the treble but trying it with reference songs the treble still sounded harsh and by ear they were lowered more by matching other linear speakers

@@thulion Mine were definately not 5 db, and no other measurement I can find show them that high. Both speakers matched this? Where did you buy them? Are they counterfeits?

@@newsboyaudio i bought them on sound imports and i broke a tweeter and i bought a hivi q1r out of the kit and it performs the same, 3 out of 3 tweeters, u can see other measurements besides mine and they all show the same behavior

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Thanks for watching. 🤓 Watch to the end for a few recent of the cuts of the curse.

I'm using either bluenode 2, or Marantz as a pre-amp. Mostly.

@@newsboyaudio oh right on, i cant wait to try try a couple things. i have a flat response technics su-9070 that might be interesting with the tube amps. or a proceed avp2. apparently the avp2 is very good at two channel dynamics. we will see!. hey i like your channel, im paraplegic and might start an audio journey channel / disability journey channel....

@@Disabled-adventures good luck.