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I think MOC could definitely benefit from offering multiple types of buffs like the other endgame modes. With how specific the character kits can get at times, a lot of the buffs or mechanics for a wave of MOC only works with a small handful of characters. MOC kinda shows its age a bit since it was the first endgame mode, thus doesn't have a signature gimmick like AOE units being preferable in PF or the new mechanics added to fights in AS

Tbh MoC besides the HP issue in all 3 modes and the buff thing ya said to make it a bit more interesting it could also just directly have more ST focus imo the other modes are already high focus on aoe/blast that leaves little room for st unless the unit is just cracked(ratio at launch and cureent state feixiao) and relying on a broken dps to beat their own niche's weakness is a bit bad for design as when inevitable creep comes they are the first to be hit(i.e seele)

the very obvious firefly superbreak catering was definitely my reason to hating it. Not only did we have to fight those damn triplets for several months back to back but almost everything was weak to fire. No variety at all for endgame since firefly released.

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no one :: Random yt : Why everyone hate superbrea ? 🤬

Personally it's more like a new mechanic was introduced for 1 particular character. Which is what you said is what will cause these problems. Yet everything before that gets ignored. Especially when the gameplay revolves around 4 characters and some characters introduce niche mechanics. While Superbreak sticks out before that we had what Sparkle tried to introduce with adding more skill points followed by what we are gonna see in 3.0 with summons/pets/servants. There is still other mechanics in the game that focus on particular characters like Dots with Kafka, Follow up with Clara, Himeko/Herta. Whatever the others will fall under such as mono quantum, Blade's niche, Jing Yuans niche, Adventurine etc etc. All these playstyles will get overlooked because of the party comp, gear rng, and so on that will play a part that overall people wont enjoy or have the money to whale on to properly experience some of the comps. So some will feel left out because their preferred playstyle will get forgotten and ignored in favor of hoyos fotm. It's a shame that even if we do get these free 5* characters and the 5* selectors there will still be a grind behind it that doesn't feel rewarding unless you are doing everything optimally as a f2p player every single day. Since launch til now I barely have a 2nd team I can go in with confidence but its not as good as my main team and they both still feel lacking mainly cause of the lack of superimposing LC and full Eidolon. Yet that's just my opinion on the matter.

I think the real reason super real is hated is not that it was strong but it was the only niche that was getting supported. People are BEGGING for the dot archetype to get a damage buff or some mechanic to take Dot to the next level and on top of that a majority of the 1.0 hypercarry dps have just been left to rot with no real “broken” support to buff them. Acheron survived being a hypercarry dps because she’s strong af at her core and follow survived because like super break follow up niche has been getting a ton of strong support. My best example of this is look at Jingyuan now look how this man has grown he finally gets Sunday a support that covers his weaknesses and all of a sudden he’s tier 0. It was lucky coincidence but this is what I mean like where are the busted hypercarry supports where’s the dot supports where the health drain support. Both blade and Jingliu seemed like they were gonna set up a health drain archetype and then nothing came of it. Like the hp inflation is not really an issue it’s the fact that all the attention and support were given to follow up and superbreak. So only those 2 niches could scale with the hp inflation and nothing else. The second Sunday came out jingyuan of all people can deal with the hp inflation.

I just hate how much of break's focus was on firefly. Like moc kept repeating the triple marionettes. Multiple apocs where both sides were to fire. How she got her own break planar set, while boothill and rappa have to use talia (A 1.0 set), which is worse in every possible way. Fugue and lingsha both being fire element. Having the easiest implant out of the 3 break dps (rappa didnt even get an implant). It just sucks to see a single character get glazed this much when complete archetypes are ignored for numerous patches.

People saying skill issue then immediately followed by "you skipped the right units" is the most dumbest shit, I should still be able to clear the MoC even with less stars and not be outright unplayable without the proper units. Why should I even pull for a character I'll be using for a few patches only to be replaced when a x.0 patch comes around?

I'm not a fan of Firefly because she's the easiest one to play among the 3 break DPS. Like, you only need to hit one skill and go ultimate then just attack! She get easy fire weakness implant on the enemies unlike the other two. Plus, I hate the fact the Iron Cavalry set just got change because of her release when they could have make it at least fully usable for Boothill. Before anyone come at me, yes, Boothill can still use it but I wish the full effects can be activated without the need HMC or Fugue for Boothill >> Also, whose great ideas to make the planar set to be focusing on fire weakness? Like bruh. I don't hate the break meta but I do have some dislike towards Firefly and her fans >>

nah. no one hate it. Maybe those who don't have it lol.

wait chills waht happened to your old channel

What controversy? The funny thing is i've never seen hate towards super break outside of youtube comments, well, in general i only see the worst of takes in youtube comments

Superbreak reminds me of Hyperbloom in Genshin. Its a high floor low ceiling team that is incredibly strong for low investment players. I think why both of these team archtypes are so decisive is that it made the effort required to clear endgame content so much lower to the point of making previous crit builds less necessary. We can see something similar happening right now in ZZZ with Anomaly/Disorder teams. Its power floor is just too high for the effort required to use them. Even if Crit builds have higher ceilings its much harder to upgrade crit builds vs EM Hyperbloom/Superbreak/Anomaly.

I think all this HP inflation is the worst thing that could happen in endgames these days. Obviously people want to get the new characters, but if Firefly, Acheron, and the hunt girl, who are just Acheron 2.0, become worse each new update, then players will probably give up on the meta chasing or the entire game, and this isn't 2020 anymore, a lot of gachas are coming with more or equiparable quality of hoyo games.

its simply same thing as hyperbloom from genshin, both games have units specialized in the gameplay type but also can be accessed easily by other characters aswell for quick easy build and good damage dealing builds, problem is that the required investment for the amount of damage is too easy and good compared to other build types

Wait for true dmg to be released its more op than superbreak

So is fugue better for Firefly for the break effect increase? Or run her with other character, essentially making her a better Silver Wolf?

Man why does lingsha or himeko feel better here LMAO Say it with me chat, always and forever fireflop could never ✊😔 At least rappa and boothill are going to be enabled heavily now

If it was not so overtuned, and had a more steady build to power ratio like crit builds do, I think it would've been a lot more accepted and less hated. The biggest problem I have with it is how strong it is for how accessible it is.

I don't feel the HP inflation is going to go down I keep my ear out for leaks and though the characters are still on beta, they sound too busted yo not have a higher HP ceiling on enemies

So she doesn't replace HMC in FF's team? I'd still pull cuz it's Tingyun

I feel like it better to give fugue buff to lingsha in this team, she help ff with breaking faster and tbh fugue skills doesn’t buff ff that much the main benefit ff get from fugue is still from exo-toughness so if you give lingsha the colorless break buff then she would help ff significantly although I’m unsure if that would still be a ff show case or it would turn into a lingsha showcase XD

Here are my honest thoughts about her: big tail, big ears

As i am planning to play rmc i need to pull for fugue. I find her kit overpowered abd underwhelming at the same time. Because of this i dont know how much i shuld invest in her (lc und eidolons).

Can you do this with misha?

I think the commentary on pulling value is the biggest reason why people are doom posting or skipping her. It's not so much that she's a bad investment, but more so that she is the least valuable investment right now considering she's surrounded by Sunday, the new premier support for a future meta, and herta, a long anticipated and likely to be long standing meta dps. Not only that but in 3.0 I could imagine break becoming a little bit difficult to use with newer bosses, either bosses will be introduced who cannot be broken or bosses that can very frequently lock their toughness bars.

Firefly? MORE LIKE MIDFLY

RAPPA WORLD DOMINATION She's so crazy now

As a somewhat new player this scares me, I just hope IL is still a good 5 star for atleast one endgame mode. I did invest into Sunday though for the Remembrance meta... so hopefully it pays off. 🥲

I think people overreacting too much. In every hoyo games, Version 1.X and some parts in 2.X are where their games have not yet understand what they want to do so expect some powercreep to appear. People saying Genshin have no powercreep but look at their 1.X roaster compared to 2.X it's like heaven and earth. And then move to 2.X to 3.X things have been slowing down in powercreep (mostly also because they don't care about Endgame at that time compared to HSR)

I think the concern about 2.0-2.7 units struggling in the 3.0 patches is a bit overstated. Unlike 1.0 units, which were heavily focused on hyper-carry strategies (buffing a single DPS to brute-force content), the 2.0 patches introduced true team archetypes: follow up attack teams, super break, DoT-centric teams, and the Acheron debuff playstyle. These archetypes created much stronger synergy and specialization, which give 2.0 units a much more solid foundation to thrive even in evolving metas like the upcoming summon meta. Sure, the new Remembrance path and its memosprits will bring power creep, but it won’t invalidate 2.0 units the way 2.0’s team archetypes made many 1.0 hyper-carry units obsolete. The specialization and efficiency of 2.0 units make them more adaptable to future content, and they’ll likely still hold their own in the 3.0 patches.

they just have to keep all the character around the same strenght so that hp inflation dosnt skyrocket

For now I'm going to skip Sunday, because I fully expect that when the summon equivalent to Firefly comes out they will rerun Sunday the same way they reran Ruan Mei when Firefly released.

love her or hate her, i need her to enable super break when rmc drops

thing is i think fugue is hotter, so i pull fugue no but seriously, i dont think fugue is just a sub upgrade to hmc, she really helps out a lot more for units who cant apply ignore weakness much or at all like himeko or rappa, with being better in their own respects.

Unfortunately, she is just too pretty.

Personally I feel like this is the same as Gallagher and lingsha, lingsha isn’t a huge upgrade for break team compared to gallager however if you have lingsha you can use Gallagher in other team like acorn where he help generate more stack for her ult. Fugue is a good pull if you wanna use RMC in the future and still wanna play superbreak . So you can still run break team side 1 while having rmc team on the other team

HOW DOES THIS GUY ONLY HAVE 43 SUBS??

Also yeah f*** superbreak

Castorice is going to cause so much hp inflation... 😢

HOW DOES THIS GUY ONLY HAVE 43 SUBS???

HOW DOES THIS GUY ONLY HAVE 37 SUBS????

NO SHI THIS GUYS HAS ONLY 28 SUB

It needs to add more units of ALL playstyles instead of JUST whatever the new stuff is. DOT has been left behind, destruction (blast) characters are essentially just useless now because there are other characters that do what they do but even better and also belong to other paths, theres too much direct powercreep and not enough varied/niche units.