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absolutely!

first off it isnt way more work it takes like 5 mins more time to do it right vs puting a bandaid on it and having more problems later. the 4 piece is wayyy better because it allows the stainless to move as it gets hot. if you dont know stainless move/warps wayyy more than regular steel so having separate pieces helps alot. the solid sleeve warps alot ive seen some that have enclose the space by almost half. the 4 piece does warp was well but its impossible for it to constrict the area because the plates sit inside channels and are held in by the hopper itself where the LSS is just hanging loose at the bottom and can realy constrict the space and cause the charcoal to bridge.

@@KlotesMods appreciate the info. Since all stainless steel will warp with high temps why not use a different material like actual fire bricks?

@@PeighDayRC because of the limited thickness that they can be and there is already ceramic fiber easiest thing to do is cover it with something thin enough to still work but protect the fiber and not flake away like the mild steel that comes with it like the factory plates do.

this was the original design way before anyone came up with the installed design but i still think this design holds up i feel like it seals better because the rubber gasket on this design seals against the fireblack gasket vs on the installed cover the rubber still has to seal on one side of the stainless cover and that rubber seems to be the issue of not sealing most of the time but it does great when up again the gasket.

@@KlotesMods For what its worth based on initial thoughts, I like this better because it can be cleaned far easier than an installed lid. I know a couple screws isn’t a big deal, and this one isn’t apparent when the lid is closed. I also like the idea of the hopper liner, although it seems a bit pricey relative to the firebox mod. Have you found there is enough breakdown in the hopper to justify this? The firebox is a no brainer bc there is no way allowing the mfrs walls to deteriorate leaving only the insulation/firebricks (depending on your iteration) is a good idea. Thanks for the vids and mods.

i just forgot to take them out on the video. take them out before putting charcoal in they could cause bridging

it helps a ton on windy days keeps the heat in and saves charcoal

That's what I did 👍

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dont need the mbb replacement kit. just reuse the insulation with the stainless plates that i sell. if for some reason you break one of the pieces of insulation then yes i would by the replacement kit just for the the insulation

that pin is only needed when the grill is going and the shelf is up. thats why i thought the depth was more important

thats debatable. the cost to make a die set that your talking about would be thousands of dollars. i bend everything now with dies that i already owned before this so no additional cost. most of the cost of the part is the price of the stainless and either way you do it its not going to save any stainless cost and probably not save that much labor either. if your talking about eliminating one of the slides i could do that now but that takes away the ability to have the opening totally open vs having one of the slides fixed to the main part.

i had the latch totally come off on my 560. i drilled a couple holes in the latch and ran 2 screws all the way threw both the heat shield and the lid itself. working great now

@@KlotesMods do you have a picture?

Thanks! glad it all went well

what model of grill do you have?

@@KlotesMods never mind. I just seen this is for the 1050 and 800. I just got my package last Thursday. I ordered a lot of pieces from you. Mine is the 560. I’m Devon Davis. I ordered the drip tray, drip trey holders, ash bucket piece and the vent for the back

Love all the mods I bought. Especially the new ash pan grate. Really made a big difference

@@TheOutdoorTracMan great to hear! let me know if you have any more questions

You should add what size drill bit to use to make the holes for the 8 bolts. I thought maybe using one of the self tapping screws would work but they seem to bit just a touch too small.

@@PAUmerica I think I might have used a 1/16" but just to get a hole started and then let the self drill screw do the rest.

Thanks. I used an 11/64 but for the boots

thanks!

my video editing skills are non existent lol i listed on every video in the description there is a live link there. yes i do have a vent for the 1050. here is the website if you cant find it klotesmods.com

Thanks and I ordered the damper. That appears be the most practical damper and similar to what I use on my propane burner and chunk smoker

yes it fits all 3 models

the screws are self drilling need to drill holes. the screw are a #6

email me klotesmbmods@gmail.com i would like to see pics of how you installed it

@@KlotesMods Thanks for getting back to me. I just emailed you the pics of my install.

@@KlotesMods I am also having this issue on my 560. Email has been sent.

@@yambor44 i havnt gotten any emails. i looked in my junk mail as well. please resend to klotesmods@gmail.com

@@KlotesMods I just re-sent it.

i had the same problem i took a metal putty knife scraped it as good as i could and then used lacquer thinner to clean it. depending which model you have would depend on how heavy you go with the lacquer thinner. if you have the ceramic finish (shiny)there no need to worry about it you can use as much lacquer thinner as you want. if it just powder coat (dull finish) just pour some on a paper towel enough to wet the towel but not soak it and wipe it clean just where the gasket sticks

@@KlotesMods thanks! I have the newer ceramic version. I used a carbide gasket scraper and it took all of it off without so much as a scratch to the ceramic! Just hit it with a little alcohol and bam! I even used the scraper to get the stuff that had dripped down by the ash pan door but went much lighter pressure and still not a scratch. Come payday I will be ordering some of your mods especially the firebox and hopper lid mods now that I know I can get that fire gasket to stick like it was going a new grill.

@@johnnymissfire8464 great to hear it worked for you!

Where can I find your mods?

@@richmayne596 I believe it's klotesmods.com

I like this one better but ease of use will get lss Going to get his grate/fan protector and his slide air with fan protector but have 2 months to decide on bent

its an 8" shelf from the factory with this mod its 15" so extends it 7"

@@KlotesMods Oh wow. Ok, thanks!

my firebox kit is basicly the same but better. i feel like the sleeve is like a bandaid where you covering up the issue (the steel) whereas mine you discard the steel and replace it with the stainless. the whole issue with the steel getting holes throught it is because it gets super heated which causes the carbon in the steel to come out and flake off. it looks like rust but its not its from the heat. stainless has way less carbon in it thats why is works so well. all of this is to keep the ceramic fiber insulation (firebrick)from getting exposed and getting into your food. all of this was found out within weeks of the 560 first being released people complained about it then about 6 months in masterbuilt finally addressed it with a story that i i dont really believe that its suppose to do that and expose the insulation that stuff is nasty i know because you have to cut it to make my firebox mod work and you get all itchy like fiberglass from it just cutting it which tells me its going to get on your food if its ezposed thats why i sell it. now my 4 piece design allows the stainless to move when it heats up because stainless moves alot more than mild steel does when heated plus an added feature it all fits in the same spot designed by masterbuilt for the mild steel which it sits in channels on the top and the bottom and it helps keep it from warping. no it still warps just not near as much as the one piece design. ive seen some really warped one piece that really end up constricting the space which could easily cause bridging with the charcoal and your fire go out hope this helps nathan

@@KlotesMods Holy crap! You are probably going to be recruited by MB to be one of their engineers!!!

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sorry about that ive installed several and the self drilling screws worked fine. i wonder if maybe your drill wasnt fast enough. the main thing is you got it installed

@@KlotesMods I have a 18v ridge it was spinning fast the screw were not catching I just drill pilot wholes

I had the same problem too, then realised the drill was on the low speed setting :D

do you have a question or what can i help you with? most questions can be answered on my website klotesmods.com

glad it went well for ya!