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Oh it def is. Shane represents a lot of people

The error is literally him and his personality. She’s boring but Shane’s only thoughts consist of pineapple suite and sex

A cool girl, I know... She's very nice and not a horrible person in terms of how she treats others, which can be mistaken for a simpleton, I guess.

Rachel was just a whiney little b*ch. she wanted the money status everything she just didn’t want to admit it. She knew what she was getting into. And like Nicole said she was clearly not good at her job. Idk wtf was her problem. Shane’s wrath was totally justified armond had tortured him.

I've noticed that too

It’s not veiled at all

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Imo it doesn’t. It offers comprehensive character analysis where you can agree with one character but not side with them. I think this character is the exception to a certain degree though

The characters are all annoying as shit though. Rich douches with first-world problems.

Except people get to choose HOW they want to make a difference. And she wants to work, period, it's her choice and he has too respect her decisions It's like saying to medicine student who wants to specialize in heart area to be a eye doctor cause you're still helping. And Shane is a terrible guy who just wants sex, he doesn't actually like her, he doesn't care for her interests and passions as an individual. He's still attached to his mother in unhealthy ways, he depends on her

@@davidhenriques4829 I didnt say Shane is off the hook. Im just saying they both have faults in this. It takes two to tango. Thats the beauty of the show, no character is 100% good or bad.

I just dont agree with your views with Rachel like i explained in my comment@@hardcandy9880 she gets to choose her life and he didnt gave her that option, he wanted to trap her to a life she didnt want or was used to it

hate to break it to you but private philanthropy doesn’t actually effect material change. nobody gets as rich as shane’s family is without systematically exploiting people, and when it comes to their philanthropic efforts there’s very little transparency. your uncharitable interpretation of rachel’s character aside, it’s simply not true that she could’ve made more of a difference as a trophy wife.

@@oneirocriticaster9402 I work from NGO's side and what Shane's mom said is true, it's about the money. Corporattions do a lot of damage, that is no secret. They do philantrophy and corporate social responsibility partly to make up for the damage, that is well known. But regardless of the intentions or methods, they do actually do help people. Because building electricity and clean water systems in rural areas, researching drugs for deadly diseases, or giving out scholarships actually need funds (surprise!). Rachel means well, but she isnt even good at what she does nor she knows what to do next. For now, she is lucky to have the resources her husband's family is offering her and it is up to her how to use it.

She's not good at anything. Probably like yourself. Zero talent, no guts.

"He clearly did not try to find out what she wanted out of life before he put a ring on it" What do you mean? It's still her who accepted the ring, it was her decision, and she chose the wrong husband.

@@Tracer73866 you're right, she did. And he also chose the wrong wife. And instead of trying to make both of them happy, he very clearly puts his ideals and desires before hers. My point still stands

@@bluebutterfly5062 But it's not in his nature in the first place, why even expect it from him? She chose the wrong guy, and her being unhappy and miserable in this marriage is the consequence of her own decision.

​​@@Tracer73866ou said "is not in his nature" exactly! A man like that has no business getting married. If you are not prepared to communicate and consider what is the best for you and your spouse, don't get married. It's just as much on him to avoid these problems as it is on her.

@@bluebutterfly5062 so you expect a completely apathetic person to restrain himself from getting married because he is not good enough for others lol? These thoughts are not even appearing in his head, it's not his nature, and you should not expect that kind of self-awareness from him. But if YOU are so aware and YOU see that your partner is this completely shallow, apathetic person, then it's YOUR responsibility to not get married to that person. It was completely up to her.

Believe it or not, some married women want a career that brings them intellectual satisfaction and their own salary. Being a wined and dined trophy wife would be pure hell for such women. Problem is, Rachel has career goals but she has no backbone and no talent at anything. She's just a talentless hot chick and she knows it. So her only option is to be a trophy wife.

@@CheerfullyCynical829 I know some women do, I don’t think he was telling her to quit completely though… just not work as much. She wanted to work on her honeymoon and got mad when he told her that he didn’t want her to. Save that for when you get home girl. But she could still be married and have him help her invest in her own business. Now that would be the smart thing to do.

Dude is a standup guy and he loved her, I mean he is what anyone wants. He paid for something and he didn't get and he is only doing what a stand up guy will do. He wanted the whole experience to be perfect for them and that's all he wanted. He always protected her and wasnt that all happy the mom came but then had to suck it up.

Yes... He is disgusting

And yet so many people defend him, it's insane. I felt so much for Rachel.❤

He’s in the right. He should’ve gotten the right room. You’re all doormats. He just wanted the proper room and enjoy the honeymoon. On top of that, the wife complains of non-issues. How ungrateful. Shane didn’t ask her to be plus one. Just to enjoy the comfort he could afford her. I want my wife to just enjoy the things I have and not to worry about anything.

Armond was way worse. Total passive aggressive creep who should have tried to give him his money back right away. It's fine to make mistakes, but fix it. That fake ass smile and politeness was annoying.

Exactly, as soon as she said she didn't want to be a plus one, his response "dont be." All he was saying was enjoy our honeymoon and you can figure out what you want to do once we're back.

He constantly harassed Armond, threatened to get him fired over a wrong booking, constantly neglects her emotions, implies her journalism career is trash, only ever really verbally appreciates her for her body and flirts with young girls? You have to be insane to actually think she's the jerk in this situation? It just makes me feel like anyone who agrees with Shane is like him in real life. And I mean, Shane is not exactly known for his self awareness. Gosh that's what I love about discourse around this show. It exposes the rich and privileged from the underprivileged and grounded so easily based on who you root for...

@@A..224 I do not root for Shane. He paid for a particular room, instead of apologizing profusely like they do at most hotels. Armond, who knew he made a mistake, decided to play stupid games like telling him he would have a romantic sunset cruise, without notifying him that they would be Tanya would be on the boat and mess up the whole vibe. Doing drugs/sleeping with a coworker in his office. Are all those things Shane's fault. All of his complaints with 100% legitimate. Despite the fact that Rachel insulted him to his face in this monologue, he still took her back as his wife. Is he some great guy, no, but he's not that bad. Given that all he wanted was the room he paid for and a romantic honeymoon with his now wife, who was having an existential crisis about what was the purpose of her life, which was no fault of his own.

oh hun, please do not get into a relationship like this. i can understand not liking a character due to flaws, neither person was great during the relationship but there definitely was a power dynamic and i hope nobody finds themself in that situation

Rich white women problems. Although her issues are legit, cmon it’s not that bad. She doesn’t want to be +1 and Shane replied don’t be. Exactly. Just enjoy the honeymoon and your rich husband.

He didn’t pay for it, his mommy did

@@joshm.1483 so he’s supposed to just let it go bc its not his but his moms money? That would mean he doesnt value the wealth. He clearly does. Its his families money which is his.

@@joshm.1483so what??!! Do you think you’re making any sense??

Why she didn’t bother to understand his feelings

Understand her feelings and then what? She wants to be a strong independent woman but she has no backbone and no talent at anything. How exactly is Shane supposed to fix that? He should support her goals, but she has no idea how to reach her goals and she blames him for it. Rachel is awful.

@@CheerfullyCynical829 period

@@CheerfullyCynical829 you're so weird. She's in love with the man it's totally normal for her to get wrapped up in that. Where did you even get the idea she has no talent? Because one entitled white woman disliked her puff piece? Shane dismissed her and treated her like nothing for the entire show, as well as MURDERED someone and you have this much of a problem with HER?

⁠@@saharasafari9what were his feelings? Wanting another hotel room? Wanting a trophy wife?

Well, I think she did what most of us would do... We keep pushing on when the going gets tough and when we are down on our knees because we have no choice, she doesn't have the no option option, she has a way out. It's the human instinct to run away from adversity, it's how our ancestors survived. She's normal, not a masochist or self sabotagging in any way... But she became acutely aware of what she's become during this trip, and she's not happy about it, but what's the alternative? Uncertainty and destitution... Shane loves her, he's not perfect (For sure) but he did make her the center of his whole life, as long as she remains an obedient wifey who doesn't do a lot of thinking 😂😅 or so he thought... He was hoping she'd be unapologetically vapid and in complete denial of it, or at least so self centered she'd come to terms with it at some point. Welps, she's not. Did they live happily ever after? I don't know, that's the show for you though. You're gonna think about it. Also, love that Shane is also young and hot, they could have dumbed this down and made him old or unattractive, but he's not... And that also gets you thinking, because he's young and hot, but still wants a trophy wife.

Victim blaming

@@justincera1770 She isn't a victim she put herself in that position. No one tied her down and forced her to marry him.

@@shadysorkin9214it’s more of a struggle with her holding onto her autonomy within this kind of marriage dynamic and their classes clashing. Unfair and dehumanizing emotions sprout up with these kinds of relationships and it should be discussed. Focusing on Victimhood and ‘who’s good and who’s bad’ is just a way to avoid the real issue at hand. his love and kindness is conditional on her just being submissive and standing there not busting his balls on anything. I’m sure at the beginning he put his best face foreword and the love is basically being bombed: fancy tours, dinners, gifts and luxury. Guys live for the chase and She was the pretty girl to impress and get. Now he’s got her and she’s only noticing his tone death and negative traits on this trip. Because now he doesn’t have to perform as much. She’s married him and emotionally invested. She’s social currency with his peers: A beautiful and educated woman. She has less wealth and he can lord over her the fact their marriage is hypergamy. She should be grateful for his ‘charity’ bringing her up. It’s a good place to prop a women. The veiled guilt and power can keep a woman fixed in that relationship. Many stay for life. Indifferent and complacent. Afraid to leave because their husbands told them to not get a job and 10 years down the line the woman gets cheated on and they can’t just leave without it being a mess especially with kids involved. You have to actually be in love for relationships with such different class issues to succeed. I’m struggling to wonder if this guy actually loves her. They way he shuts her down and doesn’t really care about her concerns and wants to stuff it down with flaunting his own wealth seems off. She should leave, honestly. Or maybe hope for some growth in their relationship where he sees her as an equal or at least acknowledges her emotions.