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Always appreciate hearing the hard truths incorporated with encouraging Pep talk as someone who has two full-time jobs (my 9-5 and my VO). I am saving this video for when I need to be reminded of these mindsets. Thanks Paul.

Good looking out!✌🏾

Thank you for the real talk on marketing. I haaaaate marketing and ads and wish it all would go away, in general. 100%. I know it makes this world go 'round. I need an attitude adjustment and what you said gives me something to think about. I'm not totally sold (because the annoyance is real, guys) but I'll work on it...and if someone here can @ me with resources that help me change my tune about how I view marketing/ads/sales, I'd appreciate it.

It's a little eerie (in a good way) the timing of you posting this video, for me personally haha! tremendous stuff as usual Paul!

I wish I could articulate how this is such an ON-TIME video. As I always comment, THANK YOU so Much

I didn't know how much I needed to hear most of this.

This was a great one Paul, appreciate it.

Careful....using phrases like "sweet ass" could get you called into RUclips HR.

Two words…Awe-some! Two more…Thank you!

Could not have said it better! Conferences are KEY to building, and GROWING your network! Online resources are great, but face to face conversations, shared moments - learning & laughter during the keynote or in a conference room with J. Michael "Snowmiser" (🥶), and the double E - Energy and Enthusiasm is contagious. As a nurse VO, it's truly "the prescription for success!" ;)

Favorite podcast!!! Such a great interview!!

Fantastic video and Im not a voice actor

so it's basically not stealing voices it's do impressions artificially. Like a song cover, think it's already to late to make new laws but I would love to have EVERYTHING voiced in my videogames that could be achievable and affordable in the future

even you kinda sound like ai, it's so scary I can't tell the diference..

Thanks for this

People will be left to read new audiobooks and poems because AI cannot produce as much variety as needed for a long listening session. Short scripts and commercials and documentaries, all will be AI.

Loved it!

Great interview!

I assume those who sell TV and radio advertising are still called Account Executives? I did that for awhile back in the 90s. It was very difficult and I was horrible at it, not to mention I hated it as it took me away from what I really wanted to focus on... my voice work. My hat is off to those who are successful doing that!

This information-packed video has a lot of golden nuggets I needed, thank both of you for sharing. I hope you both have an awesome day.

Thanks for bringing Tracy on. So glad to hear you share your story Tracy😊😊

A fantastic discussion between you two wonderful humans. Thank you! And it was really interesting to hear your deeper backstory, Tracy! Go you!!

You fall to the level of your systems. Very key.

Are there not agents?

Now I'm confused! I watched a bunch of VO vidoes for example some from Bill DeWees and he was singing a different tune. He basically said to just start and make a demo or you can pay someone and get one done. Then put it up on the entrepreneurial websites like Fiverr and get the "low hanging fruit" to start making money. Now I don't know what to do here.

I see your "FU AI" pillow and was wondering what your predictions are for Voice Over acting in the future? People keep telling me that AI will take my job if I pursue this. I worked in Radio for years and vividly remember people telling me "radio is dead". Meanwhile I had a 10 year career in that field. I didn't make much but I still found jobs!

Thank you for the information. I love doing voice over..

Voice 123 interface SUCKS..

AI will replace all Voice Over in English in the next years to come.. but voice acting and dubbing will not..

Well put.

4k for training, not including the buy ins for major site membership, not including costs for equipment, not including costs for production. … So, be rich to begin with?

Thank you!! Love the content and the pillow!!

Well....since it's freeeee

Loving that after a year of phoning up companies 50 x a day, your first gig was an announcement about herpes awareness! 😂 Brilliant! 😂 Love it

_// Thanks for sharing the video! Let me tell you something important: God loves you! God loves us ! He is no respecter of persons! because God wants us all to be saved! and let's go to the knowledge of the “Truth” God wants to save us from eternal damnation, which we all deserve because of sin, who entered the world through Adam, and death entered through sin, and thus death passed to all human beings, Therefore, we are all “Sinners” But God's Love was so great for us, that he sent his only Son (Jesus Christ), gave him to this world, to die and rise for all of us! No Respect of Persons! so that everyone who believes in Jesus Christ does not go to eternal punishment, but rather has “Eternal Life!” “ Jesus Christ died for our sins, according to the Scriptures; and he was buried, and rose again on the third day, according to the Scriptures Jesus Christ came to call sinners to “Repentance! “ and, he who believes in Him, has “Eternal Life! “But whoever refuses to believe in Jesus Christ, the wrath of God remains on him. Then, as through Adam's transgression, condemnation came to all human beings, in the same way, through the justice of Jesus Christ, justification of life came to all human beings! All of us who believe in The Only Savior of the world! The Only Mediator between God and us! The Lord Jesus Christ! The son of God! All of us who trust in Him; we have “Eternal Life! “ And we must know that there is salvation in no one else; because there is no other name under heaven, given to human beings, in which we can be saved. Only by Believing/Trusting in “Jesus Christ” can we be Saved! But Jesus Christ also said: Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Therefore, we must be doers of the Word of God! and not only listeners and/or readers, deceiving ourselves. So let's read the Word of God! There is His Will! what God wants us to do! Let us read mainly the Gospels; Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and let us pray to God, our Heavenly Father, all the days of the life that He gave us! God loves you! God loves us! To Him alone be the Glory Forever! Amen! Bible Source: Acts 10:34-35 / 1 Timothy 2:3-6 / Romans 5:12 / John 3:16 / 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 / Luke 5:32 / John 3:36 / Romans 5:18 / John 6:47 / Acts 4:12 / Matthew 7:21 / James 1:22 /|]l

Paul - great video. Thank you for covering in detail. For any not yet familiar with NAVA - they do incredible work with and for voice talent. Get to know them - and thanks to Carin for her contribution here.

Had one the other day. They didn't want to pay me royalties. BYE-BYE!! don't need your money. 😊

23:59: "If someone says to me, 'I wanna make six figures on Fiverr,' I'm like, 'Great, let's make it happen.' If someone says, 'I wanna go to L.A. and do Pixar movies and be in high-end video games,' I'm like, 'Cool, let's make that happen.'" I want to voice act for Disney. This part of the conversation sold me on Tom's coaching. Paul, you and Terry Daniel with Voiceover Sermons (who I learned about from your episode on top voiceover podcasts!) are my favorite podcasters. I love your content. Thank you for bringing Tom onto your show.

Love this, and couldn't have come at a better time! Question though, does this apply to video games or animation/documentaries? Not sure what a typical contract for those jobs would entail

In Perpetuity means forever....and that's a mighty long time! I have been using the approach of offering up an alternate length of time (limited) so the client can stay on budget.. The AI aspect is a new wrinkle to this....thanks for calling this out Paul (and Carin). 😎

Wow, you explained this very well and you made it very easy to understand. Thank you for this.

Shared on BlueSky!

Man this is great!!

I use FL studio just cause I've been using it to produce music for years now, but I feel it's so uncommon clients may not take it seriously. Is this something I could simply not disclose?

As usual Paul your the best

Great content!!!!

"Train, train, train. Don't worry about the notoriety, the popularity, and the demo..." One of so many wonderful nuggets in this interview; well worth the wait!

"Your job is to be a better storyteller than the AI..." 100% correct. Train. Hone your craft.

The market is over saturated. 2020 didn't help. And like every market it will contract and reestablish its bearings. AI likewise adds to the over saturation and itself will go through iterations.

Its like that weird old guy Epictetus could see through a magic crystal ball to paint out my life so vividly by the numbers. All from 2000 years ago.