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Hey there, @audioartisan. Yes, you understand that correctly. A multi/poly performance is 4 layers (each layer a "Program"). Each Program layer voice architecture consists of 4 oscillators. So, yes, you could have 16 oscillators sounding at once. Further, the unison mode is per Program (layer), so you could have voice duplication as well (meaning, even more oscillators sounding) on a single key. I haven't stress tested to see how ridiculous you can get and still have any reasonable polyphony, but many of the fat patches I'm playing here are sounding 20 voices without voice stealing. Thanks also for the kind comments and thanks for watching! 🎹

@@CapriciousBlackBox thanks for your service, soldier! 🫡

@digitaldiezel5870, thanks for watching and for the kind comment (I agree, it's a super demo 😉)! But what's wrong with mentioning the 1980s? It's the golden era of synth-pop, and multi/poly is chock full of emulations of classic 70s and 80s synth patches. (I didn't demo them, but there's a lovely homage to the bass from "Don't You Want Me", in addition to the "Sweet Dreams" type patches... also there's a couple of gems from I Speak Machine's Tara Busch for "Cars" and... of all things... the noise hit from "Betty Davis Eyes"). It just gives off those vibes! Also, I'm very GenX and cut my teeth on synthesis in the 80s, so don't make me get all Espen Kraft on you. 🤣 Don't forget to like and subscribe for moar talky synthesizer content!

I miss the 80's. I miss the 70's even more...

@bilonggrisimmeri glad you found that helpful and thanks for watching! With respect to the "digital"/wavetable oscillator, in multi/poly, it has all of the same capabilities as the modwave wavetable oscillator, except for a couple of morph modes (I think it lacks "sync" and "windowed sync" morphs), and it doesn't have the Wavetable A/B mode (where you can blend between two different wavetables in a phase-synced way). But you gain the waveshaper oscillator, which actually has like 3 different parameters for changing the waveform created by the shaper and this is a very similar type of effect to A/B blend. All oscillators, of all types, are free-running in multi/poly, so that's different as well. As a result, that means there is no specific phase control/modulation destination (as we have in modwave). Also, the new "Drift" parameter and related amounts in multi/poly replace the "pitch random" parameter (a handy, but less sophisticated way to simulate drift in modwave or wavestate). If you're interested in stuff like this, you might like this previous video where I talked about techniques for making "analog" sounding patches in modwave at ruclips.net/video/mXayzXmD9jk/видео.htmlsi=6qyiKgrypfyDEIKt&t=348.

@@VitaEx thanks for the kind words! Yeah, I’m thinking about that, or simply adding them to Mathwaves. Yeah, the modulation in that patch is a bit of a “Vangelis” move. Though, in my head, I was thinking “Arrakis… Dune… Desert Planet” but failed to make the joke while I was recording. The waveshaper oscillator is exceedingly interesting and responds in very interesting ways to modulation. It’s a bit like Wavetable A/B mode on modwave in that you can move the waveform in multiple dimensions that aren’t immediately obvious.

@ I dig it vibes (spice) must flow

@@VitaEx I hear what you mean there. Yeah, there’s a lot of “retriggery” stuff in video game/chiptune music. Old guy aside: I have a fondness for complex/multistage envelopes and the tricks one can do with them as my first synth was the Casio CZ-101, which has 8-stage envelopes. Aside 2: you can do strum/flam effects in Wavestate because you can have a silent step(s) in the wavesequence. But there’s no non-convoluted/inefficient way to do that in modwave (aside from either some tricky mod processor stuff or running a layer through a fully wet delay effect, which just isn’t the same thing). Thanks for being such a careful listener!

I'm glad I could improve someone's day! Thanks for watching!

@@SouthShoreSonics thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it! Sorry I forgot to do something with Morlet wavelets, though! D’oh! I’ll do it in future. I think you’re gonna love the shaper oscillator. It’s quite fascinating.

@@kcrosley And having four layers with two filters each that can be set to bandpass and tunable to formant frequencies I bet you can do some Moog Spectravox effects. That is one thing I want to play with!

@SouthShoreSonics that’s a cool idea!

Umm... OK. Thanks for watching, I guess.

@@kcrosleythanks for “focalizing.” 😂

@neuronist, thanks for watching! While I didn't actually comment on this in the video, I think it's really funny that they didn't include "wave" in the name of this synth. Missed marketing opportunity to give this thing a hot pink livery and a trendy name. 😉

Hey, @HarmonicSonics, thanks for watching! I'll definitely be doing more with multi/poly in the future, but I got a bit into the waveshaper oscillator and audio-rate filter modulation together at 0:48:21. And I very briefly touched on cross-mod at 1:08:11 .

Blofeld only uses sysex midi for wavetables.

Hey, thanks for watching @0richbike. I don't know that it's actually possible or easy to import third-party wavetables like mine to Blofeld. Based on this article everyone seems to point to -- markmoshermusic.com/2015/07/29/intro-to-loading-custom-waldorf-blofeld-wavetables/ -- it seems super cumbersome. I don't personally own a Blofeld, but perhaps another wavetable fan will chime in here.

@@nuuality I have taken a quick look at 1.5, and the new resynthesis algorithm is better in some ways. I will do a video about 1.5, but I’ve been mostly working with Korg multi/poly over this past week and just finished a video about that (will be online later tonight).

Hey @watchaddicts1213, I have done a couple of videos involving Zebralette 3, from several months ago, so using the very early beta releases of that synth: ruclips.net/video/N8G6TJDcoZo/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/k-gtrUrDBWQ/видео.html. I'm sure it's evolved a lot since then and note that there wasn't any documentation at the time about features that I'm most interested in, so I'm sure it's a different experience now.

I’m hoping to get that done today!

Thanks for watching! As I've told others (or maybe it's just you replying again), there's this thing called "linear time." You are commenting from 7 months in the future with respect to this video. I am demonstrating the very earliest beta versions of Zebralette 3, when it did not have certain features (e.g., wavetable import), and single-cycle waveform import wasn't documented at all. What you see here is me, and my comments section, figuring this stuff out in real time. 🤷‍♂

I guess that would be me, I am searching for why are there guide curves in the mseg so I am watching every video on the subject. I watched the other video where you struggle with importing stuff and as the title of this one is: I was wrong about Zebralette, I thought it was funny, what were you wrong about. But I am sorry and I understand, there are plenty of people in the comments saying the same.

Thanks for watching!

@@SongOfItself the “original” Polygonal Wavetables are in the very first section of each wavetable category - “Original Collection”. See my very first video about KRC Mathwaves for an overview of the different categories/types of wavetables found in there. Video: 140,000 Wavetables for Serum, modwave, Vital and Other Wavetable Synths: KRC Mathwaves. It’s huge… ruclips.net/video/lYjwlKiUjK0/видео.html

Hmm… I’m not obviously seeing that PayPal isn’t an option, but will check when I’m back on my real machine.

www.paypal.me/VillaElrod and you can pay me via PayPal. In your note, pick a coupon code you’d like me to generate. I’ll make a coupon that makes the price $0. That’s the only way I can think to make it work. (And yeah it does seem PayPal just disappeared as a supported payment type in Gunroad. 🤷‍♂️

@@kcrosley No rush at all, thank you. But yeah, it seems that Gumroad recently dropped PayPal, or PayPal dropped Gumroad, either way it's not shown as a payment option any more. And Gumroad doesn't have a "help" or a "contact us" link anywhere I can see

Yeah, it seems that PayPal dropped Gumroad and so the option isn’t available anymore. (While apparently creators got an email about this when it happened, I personally can’t find that message. 🤷‍♂️) it is sucky and I’ll be exploring alternatives, at least for supporting PayPal as a payment source. Meh!

@@manwithadream2043 thanks for watching!

@krowus3833, thank you and thanks for watching!

@anbanb8787 you know, if I ruined one of my wife's aprons in the process of generating new waveforms, I'd be in big trouble.

@@kcrosley

@APKManagement-rg4px, thanks! And thanks for watching! I meant to make some comments on this in the video, but it was getting too long (also I'm "the absent-minded professor"), but I find it amazing that A. Souter (of Galbanum) basically "discovered" this class of waveforms and then was like, "eh, here's another waveform", without realizing the importance and beauty of this particular sound. I think of these as a "missing" basic synthesis waveform type and, as I show in the video, there's a clear connection between the polygonal waveforms and the sawtooth wave itself (mathematically) which simply makes me go 👀.

Oh, also... Yeah, a "toy piano" type patch would be a no-brainer application of these sorts of waveforms!

@@griiseknoen thank you so much! And there is always more to come. Watch my other videos for many other novel approaches to waveform and Wavetable generation!

@jandospace you’re welcome, and thanks for watching!

You can’t really beat it for value for money (though I like modwave better as my wavetable-synth-of-choice). I mean free/donatiomware + $29-or-less for Mathwaves, it’s a heck of a combination. 🤷‍♂️😃

@@kcrosley All your fault, but, yeah, I am LOVING ModWave a lot. I will wait for their next sale and buy NATIVE version.

@@watchaddicts1213 I do love Omnisphere, though I haven’t used it in a while. I wish it were a bit easier to get one’s own samples into it (maybe it’s easier in the latest versions) as the granular engine is fun there, and I think the effects are really fun and great as is the arpeggiator (I also have the various expansions for it like Trillian). I own Serum mostly because of the Wavetable editor and well, it’s probably the most popular Wavetable synth. As I mentioned previously, I love Korg modwave and wavestate. I’ve owned quite a bit of Dave Smith/Sequential gear but the ones I still have are the PRO-2 (mono synth) and Prophet 12 (digital oscillator/analog filters polysynth). I will never get rid of my Nord Modular (guess I should get into VCV Rack) nor my Emulator E4K (and I wish Emulator X were still around/modernized). I also have a near complete collection of E-mu ROMs that I keep around for use in a PX-7 Command Station (though those sounds are all available as multisamples from Digital Sound Factory and I have all of those and converted most of them to Korg multi sample format). Oddballs: Waldorf Pulse 2 (awesome arpeggiator), Alesis Micron (wild early VA architecture, old-skool 16-voice multitimbral). Drum machine: Elektron Analog RYTM (I have a MK1). Thinking about Omnisphere again, it should get an update that would allow modern wavetable import. How awesome would that be? There must be some soft synths besides the Korgs that I love, but drawing a bit of a blank. Have spent a lot of time in Reaktor I guess. Not a “synth” per se, but I do like Maschine a lot (you could say love since I seem to own nearly every incarnation of the hardware).

While the resynthesis engine is definitely unsatisfying, I thought it was interesting for the modal resonator, which I went into in detail in this follow-up video: ruclips.net/video/Jm69svhy43M/видео.html And I really am hoping that someday a sample playback module might show up in Myth. A guy can dream. (For my take on a wild resynthesis engine, see my video on Sumu: ruclips.net/video/U4zVIqyCQKM/видео.html Thanks for watching!

@@kcrosley Thank you so much for sharing AND for the LINKS provided. Sidebar: because of you, I am demoing and LOVING ModWave; I had completely ignored it in favor of Wavestate, but I think that Modwave has the more beautiful and complex capabilities. Modwave reminds me of THE VECTOR SYNTH. End Sidebar. I am telling you, my friend, I have spent HOURS in email with PETER. And I'm a nobody. YOU TWO NEED TO TALK...like on telephones. Peter will take time with you and--I predict--will add the functionality that you desire. The guy is a math genius. He's very patient and is intent on pleasing his customers. KULT is the Dawesome plug that, to me, is just a noises machine. Doesn't seem musical compared to his previous plugs. Again, thanks for causing me to look hard at Modwave. I've owned SERUM for years. Never liked its sound. Seems harsh and edgy to me and is probably WHY--in the beginning---I ruled out Modwave without even trying it.

Hey @watchaddicts1213, thanks for watching! So, yeah, I own both the Korg wavestate hardware and wavestate native plugin and I love that synth as well. (I was a beta tester on wavestate/wavestate native and also modwave native. With wavestate, I focused a lot on the Sample Builder utility, more than the VST itself.) While I haven't actually featured wavestate in any of my videos, KRC Mathwaves actually has multisamples for wavestate that were created from the original 29,000 single-cycle waveforms from the original Mathwaves collection. modwave and wavestate share the same core architecture and the main difference is that wavestate is purely sample-based and has the wavesequencing stuff, while modwave has a wavetable oscillator. (Their handling of "plain old multisamples" is basically identical.) The modulation capabilities of these synths remind me of the E-mu Emulator 4 and later E-mu modules, which is to say that more or less anything non-audio-rate can modulate anything else and there are modulation processors for doing "fancy stuff". I call wavestate the "final form" of the Emulator series of instruments. Of course, wavestate doesn't by itself sample, but these days that isn't so much an issue for us. I actually really enjoy programming patches on the wavestate hardware and I bought it during Covid when I was living at my place in Palm Springs, but all my gear was in San Francisco. I spent many hours with it during that time as a sanity-saver. (And this was before it had the user sample input features.) I have a deep and abiding love for that synth. Aside: while there are some cheesy samples in the factory set (which is shared by both modwave and wavestate), there are some real gems in there. For example, there's a Mariachi trumpet articulation that is absolutely charming (and seemingly unique).

Hey there, @watchaddicts1213. I haven't played one in person, but I think it sounds lovely. While modern digital filters are great sounding, I do like the sound of digital oscillators through real analog filters. As for whether it's worth the price, well... that's up the individual I guess. One thing I think is weak is that it doesn't seem to have much memory available for user wavetable import, which is a missed opportunity for an instrument of that caliber. I'm also a bit surprised that no KRC Mathwaves user has told me they use Mathwaves with the 3rd Wave. (The "Serum/Vital" format should import perfectly to 3rd Wave and I'd love to hear how some of them sound in the 'Wave!)

​@@kcrosleyAll I heard from the 3rd Wave so far is gorgeous. Korg should have shipped the Modwave with analog filters too.

Yeah, Microwave VST sounds great, but it doesn't scratch any special itch for me, so I did not wind up licensing it at the price they're currently asking! (I agree that it would be a lot more attractive at about half the price. Also, I think it's weird that there's no easy wavetable import and I never did figure out a workaround.) And like I pointed out in the video, the intro pricing for the Streichfett VST was impossible to pass up, so the launch of this one felt kinda weird to me. 🤷‍♂️

@@kcrosley I agree. Microwave needs to be a DEC 31st at 11PM for $59 and I would buy it. Add it to the other 5 or 6 hundred plugs. What I need: a winning lottery ticket...and a 48 hour day! I might then have the time to learn a lot of what I already own.

Glad to have you here watching! Thanks! While I'm an iPhone user, I'm not a Mac fan (mostly based on price vs performance issues). That phantom "ba donk" seems to be less frequent lately, but I'm still not sure what it is. I suspect it might be a somewhat aged USB hub acting up. (And it gives me an opportunity to roll my eyes at random moments and serves as comedic relief, right? 🫠)

@@kcrosley APPLE is awful; the devil maybe. I am 10 years in and scared to death of losing LOGIC and FINAL CUT PRO. They are problem-ridden and a ripoff: You can't open the case, can't really upgrade them. Somehow, like heroin, they suck you in and you're an ADICT. So, much more VALUE in a PC, not to mention the customization possibilities. I'm gonna watch all your MODWAVE stuff. I suspect it'll be a Beast.

@@manwithadream2043 well, golly. First, thanks for watching and (so effusively) commenting! Liking and subscribing means as much as paid purchases, so please do that if you haven’t! 😀 I don’t know that I deserve being called awesome, inspirational, and wonderful, but I accept the compliment and absolutely accept that my content is “super interesting” (as I compulsively say). 😉

@@RealmsOfThePossible in that case, you just might be the target market for the plugin! Thanks for watching and chiming in!

@@cachelesssociety5187 thanks for watching!

@@sirvazo1633 hey, whatever works for you! The pitch for Myth highlighted the “resynthesis” aspects and I found them lacking for the reasons I relate in the video. I see there have been some small updates to Myth, but I haven’t explored them much. See also, my follow up video about Myth where is look at its physical modeling capabilities (which are awesome, but perhaps not worth the price of admission: Physical Modeling Synthesis in Dawesome Myth. Grab Your Exciter and Let's Get MODAL! ruclips.net/video/Jm69svhy43M/видео.html). Thanks for watching!