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Awe, shucks! I'm glad you could interpret beyond the bearded dragon and that it helped! Enjoy!

Not a schmuck at all. You did hear clicks. The unit uses relays.

​@@davidpetersmusic OK makes sense as relays provide huge isolation, less cross talk and better CMRR compared to digitally controlled pots and switches, as in the silicon ones ;-) The down side of course are clicks depending on what the relay contacts are switching. I'm assuming the audio section is analogue (versus DSP) so there will be DC voltages present along with the audio in the signal chain. The DC is what is causing those clicks as opposed to noise generated by the coil's back EMF which I'm sure in premium units like those, will be well filtered. And that ladies and gentlemen, concludes this week's boring technical waffling. 🙂

Your understanding is far more sophisticated than mine! I just know that when I turn the knob I hear the relays click. I also know the signal path is all analog, and very pure at that. The relay clicks don't bug me since they only happen as I'm getting my settings. This is not a unit that can be automated in real time during a mix like the Wes and Bettermaker units. (...though my BetterMaker also has noticeable noise in the audio path when switching settings, so I've learned I can't do that anyway)

😎 Thanks

I've never owned one or even heard one! Perhaps I can find one to borrow. I'm borrowing for the video I'm working on now, and I'm glad I did!

Agreed! The Input and Output stages in each chassis has a big influence on the tone, and the tone influences how each blends in the mix. It might seem subtle on the surface, but in context you really notice it.

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@@davidpetersmusic levr. Auto correct got me

Thank YOU!

Thanks! I think I included a photo of one of those boxes you mentioned with the card cage, but I didn't remember it was a film-centric thing. This is why RUclips can be fun, collecting additional insights!

Afaik, in film there was a commercially available regular product called Dolby Cat43A, that was this fader box mentioned. It was not DIY. Anyhow, many people built something similarly for themselves, surely.

Thanks! I'll be misusing another piece of kit in the next video as well. All of these are well-established misuses, but that shouldn't stop us from searching for new ones!

@@davidpetersmusic Completely agree. I often misuse DSP algorithms for interesting audio effects. An example, the Dolby dBx A and B NR systems used in the 70s and 80s, I have a pretty good approximation as a plugin I wrote and have made provision for variable de-emphesis. It can go from completely over the top and sibilant to a more gentle setting of just adding some "air" to a track or mix.

@@paulov9626 I love that you can create unique tools for yourself by writing software!

The next video will be on the Level-Or, original Level-Loc and more!

Deep thanks and welcome! Working on the next one now but I don't think there will be any bearded dragons cartoons, sadly.

I haven't tried this track on synth yet, I'll have to do that!

I have not had a chance to hear it yet. I have used an Acustica Nebula patch of the 361 I liked a lot though.

It all depends on how many more dragons my kid is willing to animate! ;-) Thanks for the channel love. More to come!

@@davidpetersmusic A true hero's journey awaits 🙂

@@Kateandcorey I find this comment surprisingly effective and motivating

@@davidpetersmusic every word was carefully chosen and focus grouped to achieve just that effect

I shall check it out!

Thanks! It's not as well known as I'd expect.

@@davidpetersmusic I dug a little bit online... S.A. declares the Stretch "inspired by modified noise reduction units from the 1970’s and 80’s"... I understand 361, rather than 301...In fact in your video the 301 has such a vibey sound to it (maybe overloaded?) that the other two units simply don't have. Thanks again for the great test!!!

They've got several cool boxes!

@@CalebMcLellan Thanks for the encouragement, I’m glad you’re digging it! Don’t have tons of free time to make videos, but hopefully more to come!

@@davidpetersmusic I totally understand that. I produce videos for a living and I'd love to start a channel, I just never seem to have enough time to get something up. Thanks for sharing what you can. I love your approach. You've got a great vibe.

@@CalebMcLellan If I can find ways to get more efficient with the whole process, that would be a great start. You pr support means a lot!

@@stubbadubs I just guessed on the ProMB settings to roughly illustrate visually what’s happening. I believe the Dolby A crossover points are 80Hz, 3k and/or 9k. The compression also seems pretty fast and aggressive. Think of it as regular parallel compression but with only the highs active and boosted.

They do a special thing when it's needed!

Thanks! The 361's and Stretch units are each mono, but I have two of each in the video. The big A301 is two channels.

@@davidpetersmusic 🙏

That's been a popular request. I have not heard it yet myself. I do have an Acustica Nebula patch that works pretty well.

I agree! I did actually have some of that in the video initially but it got too long and complicated and direct comparisons were a challenge with level matching, etc. That said, the ProMB can do a nice job at consistent top end, but lacks the particular flavor (if you dig it). I've never tried the Dopamine plugin but I do have Nebula captures of the 361 which I've used a lot and like.

@@davidpetersmusic check out gem it's cool. never had the chance to compare to real hw hence my interest :)

"Crispy" is a good word for it, especially if using the mod version.

I haven't tried that one in particular, but I agree it's a great way to see if you like the approach. I do have Acustica's Nebula capture of the 361 I've used and liked though.

Access Analog have one up on their server rack. I never used it because I wasn't familiar with the effect. Thanks for posting this, @DavidPetersMusic!

Thank you, sir! Pete the Dragon gets all the credit though.

@@kellymichael9567 I wish I had experience I could share but I’ve never used Dolby B in this way. That said, I’m guessing all the units do some version of the same thing. You can always try plugging in a Dolby B unit and just encoding with that and see if you like it. I often use mine with no mods, so it’s just like plugging in anything else.

Hi! If you mean "original" in the style of the 301 as seen in David's video, I had a chance to pick one up years ago but it did not work the way the 301 does. According to the manual, its principle of operation is different. But hey... give it a go. You might like what it does.

@@mhdighermuntazar Everybody needs one!

@@JackNance22 I have never tried an Aural Exciter here! …or at least it’s been a long time. I have a goal of reducing my setup as much as I can without compromising what I can do and also doing as little processing in the box as possible. Simplicity is my new ‘thing’, but it’s a complicated journey to pull all that off!

@@davidpetersmusic I hear you on reducing setup. Vintage Aphex gear can sell for super cheap and sounds awesome, that's why I still buy it. It's my only hardware that says "Made In Los Angeles" on it too, I dig that;)

I've always been impressed when I heard the vintage Aphex stuff.

@@fastpeak Thanks! I’m so happy it’s landing!

Many thanks! Hopefully I'll find time to share some more fun stuff from the studio. I'll tell my boy you complimented his animation!

I just winged it on the ProMB examples. I think the Dolby units crossover at 80Hz, 3k and 9k. If you search the internet a little you might find the approximate curves of each band. I think you can create your own settings to taste though! Just push some level and compress anywhere 3k or higher. The basic idea is simply blending in compressed high end.

Glad you liked it!!

@@davidpetersmusic yes very much so. I’m going to pick up the standard audio stretch because of your demo. I was looking into the 361s but with the added features of the stretch (and blend control) I have found what I’ve been looking for. Thanks.

Very cool! The easy presets and blend knob make them very effective indeed.

Big thank you! This is the second comment about the fortunate timing of this video. The stars must be aligning in Dolby-World!

What's the plugin from AirWindows called?

​@@TheAzurefang ToTape7 And also he has Dolby as a separate plugin if you don't need other features, it's called Dubly2.

​@@TheAzurefang toTape7

Thank you! I'll check out the Looptrotter as well!

There ya go! It's a fun sound.

Many thanks! More stuff to come as time allows.

I'll need this comment explained to me!

I think the 363 uses the "SR" processing cards instead of the "A" processing. Being newer, the SR was probably better for noise reduction, but maybe not as cool as an outboard effect. ...but, I've never tried it!

@pb3662 just chiming in here as a total non-expert who's had the SR and 22 cards for just a few weeks. It seems that only the 22 cards are typically modified; the 22 ones that I have are switchable modified so that you can click in and out the various Dolby tricks amongst the bands. But the SR cards that came with this 365 are not modified, and I don't really see any information about modifying the SR cards in the same way that the 22 cards are modified. I have played through the SR cards and in my decidedly inexpert opinion they sound like a more sophisticated and polished version of what David played through with his unmodified Cat 22 card. I actually *really* like the SR effect blended in parallel, it seems to bring up detail but not squash the perceived dynamic range as much as the Type A Cat 22 cards.

You should absolutely try the sr cards, they are amazing on drums, i actually prefer them than the cat22 cards for drums, in parallel obv cause they're quite drastic! Got the a301 too, love it too.

@@beyondgrooveproductions Great insight on the SR, I’ll have to try that!

@@davidpetersmusic Cat No 300 modules are both SR/A selectable by a toggle switch and work in the 363 chassis. I tend to use mine for their designed purpose but have experimented in the past. The A is useable but the SR I find to artifacty.

My favorite piece of studio kit is the implant I put in your brain! But really, thank you, I sincerely appreciate the appreciation. I was thinking the topic might already be covered more than enough, but I noticed there was no demo of a 301 or the Stretch. I should do a video on those studio choices. They took a long time to figure out.

Wow, thank you. I'm trying to keep it light and fresh while still being useful. I'm glad it's landing! I really appreciate the comment.

That's as high a compliment as I could ask for! Thanks you for the support. It means a lot, especially on these first videos!

Awesome, thank you!

@@jason.martin i like the idea of « and » instead of « or »!

@@reverendcarter I’ve been considering something like a whole rack of them as my default channel Ed’s. The more you have the more useful the recall would be. It’s just quite an investment and I’m not rich!

@@davidpetersmusic his stuff aint cheap thats for sure!

@@AudioJanitor much appreciated!

@@AudioJanitor Thanks for the kind words again!

@@1loveMusic2003 Showing the setup was a little slow but doing it has become pretty fast and habitual. I often use them in so many places I just print the results in so I can move them to the next instrument! But on busses the recall has been a real life saver. It would be even more effective if I had ten of them up and running together. One can dream.