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David Peters
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Exploring the DOLBY A Trick with the Dolby A301, Dolby 361 and Standard Audio Stretch
Explaining the "Dolby A Trick" and reviewing the classic Dolby 361, the original Dolby A301, and the new Standard Audio Stretch. We try the Dolby Trick on vocals, drums, and even strings and explain it all with Pete the Bearded Dragon. Mixing tips and secret weapons? Sure!
Music Producer and Mixing Engineer, David Peters walks through it all from his home recording studio, Oak House Recording in Pasadena, CA.
In this video we just cover the hardware units, but there are also plugins available like the Overloud Dopamine, Acustica Nebula patches, and even just a standard multiband compressor can approximate the effect.
www.oakhouserecording.com
IG and FB: @oakhouserecording
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Music Producer and Mixing Engineer, David Peters walks through it all from his home recording studio, Oak House Recording in Pasadena, CA.
In this video we just cover the hardware units, but there are also plugins available like the Overloud Dopamine, Acustica Nebula patches, and even just a standard multiband compressor can approximate the effect.
www.oakhouserecording.com
IG and FB: @oakhouserecording
Featuring the song T...
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The SECRET 500 Series EQ from JCF Audio with DIGITAL RECALL
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Could it be a modern classic? Overview, review and audio demo of the virtually-unknown JCF 500 series EQ inspired by the original 550A and featuring new, future-proof digital recall. A different approach from WesAudio and Bettermaker. Recall explained in a short Josh Florian interview. Email JCF Audio directly with questions. Studio Website and contact: www.oakhouserecording.com IG: @oakhousere...
Solving Problems in the Studio with the Undertone Audio GB-Tracker Direct Box and ReAmp Unit
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Quick overview and review of recording studio solutions provided by the Undertone Audio GB-Tracker DI Box and Re-Amper. Why use a DI box or reamping when recording electric guitar or recording bass? Is the the best DI box and re-amp solution? Why I use this in my personal home recording setup. A recording studio gear review by music producer/audio engineer, David Peters, from his home studio - ...
Drum Magic with the POM PYE COMPRESSOR. (Review and demo on drum bus and acoustic guitar)
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Quick audio demo and review with sound samples of the POM PYE Compressor on drums and acoustic guitar by recording and mixing engineer, David Peters at Oak House Recording. Ready to smash the drum bus or room mics? Recording, Mixing and Mastering Services: www.oakhouserecording.com IG: @oakhouserecording FB: oakhouserecording Quickly Featuring the Song: "Lonesome and Mad" by @Under...
SLEEPER Compressor? Looking at the Overstayer Stereo Field Effect Compressor (SFE) on drum bus.
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Quick take on the Overstayer Stereo Field Effect Compressor/Limiter, aka the Overstayer SFE as a drum bus compressor. Short overview, review with audio samples on drums. From recording/mixing Engineer, David Peters, at Oak House Recording in Pasadena, CA. Website: www.oakhouserecording.com Instagram: oakhouserecording Facebook: oakhouserecording
2018 Studio Tour of Oak House Recording, Pasadena, CA - Songwriter/Engineer David Peters
Просмотров 2,6 тыс.5 лет назад
Producer/Engineer/Songwriter, David Peters gives a quick tour of his studio, Oak House Recording. Tracking, mixing and mastering services specializing in folk, rock, jazz, indie, chamber music, film scores, singer/songwriters, americana, blues. www.oakhouserecording.com
David Peters performs "The Brightest Parade On Earth" from his house concert series, Song Sessions.
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"The Brightest Parade on Earth" is a song by singer songwriter, David Peters. It is his ode to Los Angeles and the experience of being a small town kid coming to chase the dream of music in the big city.
David Peters - You Look so Pretty in These Pictures (Lyric Video)
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Lyric video for "You Look So Pretty in These Pictures" by David Peters. www.davidpeters.com From the album Makeshift Memorials. Artwork by Greg Dohlen. www.linetweaker.com
The Novelists play Van Morrison's "Into the Mystic" at SONG SESSIONS House Concert Series
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Song Sessions is a house concert series hosted by Oak House Recording in Pasadena, CA featuring prominent indie songwriters. The Novelists are a nationally touring, multi-songwriter band centered in Reno, NV.
David Peters performs "Another Year" at Song Sessions House Concert Series
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From Song Sessions House Concert Series at Oak House Recording - Host, David Peters, plays his song Another Year backed by the featured guest artist, The Novelists, on 1/27/17. www.oakhouserecording.com
Gun Hill Royals recording "The Devil's Train" @OakHouseRecording
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The Gun Hill Royals recording their song, "The Devil's Train" with producer/engineer, David Peters at his studio, Oak House Recording. www.davidpeters.com www.gunhillroyals.com
Tanner Porter - "Landlord" Recording Sessions - GoPro Footage
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Music video of Tanner Porter recording her song, "Landlord" with producer, David Peters at his studio, Oak House Recording, in Los Angeles. Joe Berry joins on flute and sax. Recording session footage captured with a single GoPro camera. Video created by David Peters. "Landlord" is available for purchase on iTunes, along with Tanner's full-length album, "The Child Wrote a Poem". www.tannerporter...
LIVE@ Song Sessions 1/4/14 - TYLER LYLE - "Ditch Digger"
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Tyler Lyle performs his song, "Ditch Digger" live at a Song Sessions music night on Jan 4th, 2014 at producer/recording engineer David Peters' house.
David Peters performs "The First Offense" @ Song Sessions Night 7-14-13
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David Peters performing his song, "The First Offense" at his Song Sessions night on 7-14-13. Featuring Michael Valerio on piano. Song Sessions is a series of songwriter nights hosted by David Peters at his studio/home in Pasadena, CA.
"Song Sessions" Concert Series Highlights - Show #1 - July 14th, 2013
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"Song Sessions" Concert Series Highlights - Show #1 - July 14th, 2013
David Peters - "Our Make Believe in the Morning" Live @ Club Lingerie in Hollywood, CA
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David Peters - "Our Make Believe in the Morning" Live @ Club Lingerie in Hollywood, CA
David Peters - "A Brush With the Captain" - Live @Club Lingerie in Hollywood, CA
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David Peters - "A Brush With the Captain" - Live @Club Lingerie in Hollywood, CA
David Peters - "The Room We Fill" - Live @ Club Lingerie, Hollywood, CA
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David Peters - "The Room We Fill" - Live @ Club Lingerie, Hollywood, CA
David Peters performs his song "What It Is"
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David Peters performs his song "What It Is"
David Peters - "The First Offense" - Live UK TVstudio performance
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David Peters - "The First Offense" - Live UK TVstudio performance
Such a well made video tutorial- been curious about these units and treatments for a long time - really helped me understand what’s going on
Awe, shucks! I'm glad you could interpret beyond the bearded dragon and that it helped! Enjoy!
Don't want to be a schmuck but did I hear clicks when certain parameters on those filters are tweaked?
Not a schmuck at all. You did hear clicks. The unit uses relays.
@@davidpetersmusic OK makes sense as relays provide huge isolation, less cross talk and better CMRR compared to digitally controlled pots and switches, as in the silicon ones ;-) The down side of course are clicks depending on what the relay contacts are switching. I'm assuming the audio section is analogue (versus DSP) so there will be DC voltages present along with the audio in the signal chain. The DC is what is causing those clicks as opposed to noise generated by the coil's back EMF which I'm sure in premium units like those, will be well filtered. And that ladies and gentlemen, concludes this week's boring technical waffling. 🙂
Your understanding is far more sophisticated than mine! I just know that when I turn the knob I hear the relays click. I also know the signal path is all analog, and very pure at that. The relay clicks don't bug me since they only happen as I'm getting my settings. This is not a unit that can be automated in real time during a mix like the Wes and Bettermaker units. (...though my BetterMaker also has noticeable noise in the audio path when switching settings, so I've learned I can't do that anyway)
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😎 Thanks
Great video. Next up could be the history of the Aphex Aural Exciter. I own two of the mid-earlier units, being the Broadcast II. Afaik there were at least two models before these, each sounding quite different. The earliest had a tube amp stage!
I've never owned one or even heard one! Perhaps I can find one to borrow. I'm borrowing for the video I'm working on now, and I'm glad I did!
Thank you for making this video I have wanted to see a dive on this compressor for a while! A tasty stereo 1u fet compressor! Thanks for making this!
Interesting side fact: the Dolby 360 and 361 frame that holds those actual Cat-cardriges, has a significant influence in the units overall tone. I've got both, and whilst they only differ slightly in circuitry, they deliver very different HF tonality when swapping the Cat22 card between them. Might be a combination of silghtly different output transformer plus different PSU?
Agreed! The Input and Output stages in each chassis has a big influence on the tone, and the tone influences how each blends in the mix. It might seem subtle on the surface, but in context you really notice it.
Wait🤔 So they used OTT in the 70's too?! 🙃😋
I love my jcf levrs
kevrs?
@@davidpetersmusic levr. Auto correct got me
thank You!
Thank YOU!
Great video. This was a fairly standard technique in film and TV for dialogue for years. Many dub stages in LA had a kind of DIY rig with a small fader box patched up to a card cage. Really great on soft spoken voices. Easy to over do…
Thanks! I think I included a photo of one of those boxes you mentioned with the card cage, but I didn't remember it was a film-centric thing. This is why RUclips can be fun, collecting additional insights!
Afaik, in film there was a commercially available regular product called Dolby Cat43A, that was this fader box mentioned. It was not DIY. Anyhow, many people built something similarly for themselves, surely.
Just discovered your channel, subscribed after the first few minutes. Love the concept of "misusing" bits of equipment in a creative manner, versus just reaching for the latest "flavour of the month" plugin.
Thanks! I'll be misusing another piece of kit in the next video as well. All of these are well-established misuses, but that shouldn't stop us from searching for new ones!
@@davidpetersmusic Completely agree. I often misuse DSP algorithms for interesting audio effects. An example, the Dolby dBx A and B NR systems used in the 70s and 80s, I have a pretty good approximation as a plugin I wrote and have made provision for variable de-emphesis. It can go from completely over the top and sibilant to a more gentle setting of just adding some "air" to a track or mix.
@@paulov9626 I love that you can create unique tools for yourself by writing software!
thank you for the video! the non-lin reminds me of the level-Or, which is otherwise a pretty unique sound. would love to hear some of your other hardware compressors on drums. some side by side comparisons would be ace. and do bother to level match please and thank you!
The next video will be on the Level-Or, original Level-Loc and more!
This is the second video of yours that ive watched that you knocked out of the park keep it coming we locked in now!! 😂🔥🔥
Deep thanks and welcome! Working on the next one now but I don't think there will be any bearded dragons cartoons, sadly.
Great video - I love using my Stretch on drums and synth
I haven't tried this track on synth yet, I'll have to do that!
Have you checked out Gem Dopamine plugin? I think it's emulating the Dolby 361
I have not had a chance to hear it yet. I have used an Acustica Nebula patch of the 361 I liked a lot though.
Keep going man! Loving your channel
It all depends on how many more dragons my kid is willing to animate! ;-) Thanks for the channel love. More to come!
@@davidpetersmusic A true hero's journey awaits 🙂
@@Kateandcorey I find this comment surprisingly effective and motivating
@@davidpetersmusic every word was carefully chosen and focus grouped to achieve just that effect
Overloud Dopamine is a very good plugin emulation.
I shall check it out!
EXCELLENT content! Thank you for introducing me to the Stretch.
Thanks! It's not as well known as I'd expect.
@@davidpetersmusic I dug a little bit online... S.A. declares the Stretch "inspired by modified noise reduction units from the 1970’s and 80’s"... I understand 361, rather than 301...In fact in your video the 301 has such a vibey sound to it (maybe overloaded?) that the other two units simply don't have. Thanks again for the great test!!!
I'm glad that I'm a subscriber! I didn't know that Overstayer made anything else.
They've got several cool boxes!
Dude. Your channel is going to blow up. Great content, keep it up!
@@CalebMcLellan Thanks for the encouragement, I’m glad you’re digging it! Don’t have tons of free time to make videos, but hopefully more to come!
@@davidpetersmusic I totally understand that. I produce videos for a living and I'd love to start a channel, I just never seem to have enough time to get something up. Thanks for sharing what you can. I love your approach. You've got a great vibe.
@@CalebMcLellan If I can find ways to get more efficient with the whole process, that would be a great start. You pr support means a lot!
do you have the PRO MB presets perchance? best
@@stubbadubs I just guessed on the ProMB settings to roughly illustrate visually what’s happening. I believe the Dolby A crossover points are 80Hz, 3k and/or 9k. The compression also seems pretty fast and aggressive. Think of it as regular parallel compression but with only the highs active and boosted.
361 owner here! That littleunit it's one of my secret weapons!
They do a special thing when it's needed!
Nice video. Thanks for all the hard work. Is that unit mono? so if you wanna use it on mixbus or something, you will need 2 unit?
Thanks! The 361's and Stretch units are each mono, but I have two of each in the video. The big A301 is two channels.
@@davidpetersmusic 🙏
Be cool to hear Overloud’s Dopamine plugin compared to these
That's been a popular request. I have not heard it yet myself. I do have an Acustica Nebula patch that works pretty well.
great video! would be interesting to hear the same source material through a plug in version (gem dopamine or pro-mb?) vs the hardware. when doing my own comparisons, some hardware v software differences are negligible while others not at all (e.g. level-or v devil-loc). not in to cut into the sponsorship $ dolby is giving u (haha, i make joke). much love!
I agree! I did actually have some of that in the video initially but it got too long and complicated and direct comparisons were a challenge with level matching, etc. That said, the ProMB can do a nice job at consistent top end, but lacks the particular flavor (if you dig it). I've never tried the Dopamine plugin but I do have Nebula captures of the 361 which I've used a lot and like.
@@davidpetersmusic check out gem it's cool. never had the chance to compare to real hw hence my interest :)
wow that really is the 70s crispy drum sound
"Crispy" is a good word for it, especially if using the mod version.
Overloud has a plugin called "Dopamine" that emulated these units, it's a great way to play around with the effect!
I haven't tried that one in particular, but I agree it's a great way to see if you like the approach. I do have Acustica's Nebula capture of the 361 I've used and liked though.
Access Analog have one up on their server rack. I never used it because I wasn't familiar with the effect. Thanks for posting this, @DavidPetersMusic!
Wow, best video on Dolby processor ❤
Thank you, sir! Pete the Dragon gets all the credit though.
The original Dolby units that use Dolby B I think. Are they worth modding or trying this trick.i have two. One is for a two track tape deck or reel to reel. The other is for an eight track.
@@kellymichael9567 I wish I had experience I could share but I’ve never used Dolby B in this way. That said, I’m guessing all the units do some version of the same thing. You can always try plugging in a Dolby B unit and just encoding with that and see if you like it. I often use mine with no mods, so it’s just like plugging in anything else.
Hi! If you mean "original" in the style of the 301 as seen in David's video, I had a chance to pick one up years ago but it did not work the way the 301 does. According to the manual, its principle of operation is different. But hey... give it a go. You might like what it does.
Pete should be an industry standard
@@mhdighermuntazar Everybody needs one!
Another excellent post, David, I'm impressed with all the vintage Dolby hardware you assembled to compare, what a sonic and visual treat. Audio tools never cease to amaze me, and this was a new angle with nice results. The trick reminds me a little of the Aphex Aural Exciter, which were originally designed to add sparkle back to analog tape that had lost some luster. I'm surprised there isn't an Aural Exciter in your studio yet, would love to hear your take on those.
@@JackNance22 I have never tried an Aural Exciter here! …or at least it’s been a long time. I have a goal of reducing my setup as much as I can without compromising what I can do and also doing as little processing in the box as possible. Simplicity is my new ‘thing’, but it’s a complicated journey to pull all that off!
@@davidpetersmusic I hear you on reducing setup. Vintage Aphex gear can sell for super cheap and sounds awesome, that's why I still buy it. It's my only hardware that says "Made In Los Angeles" on it too, I dig that;)
I've always been impressed when I heard the vintage Aphex stuff.
awesome stuff david!
@@fastpeak Thanks! I’m so happy it’s landing!
The animation is so good! Loved it! Great explanations, great audio examples, great vid! Looking forward to seeing your journey!
Many thanks! Hopefully I'll find time to share some more fun stuff from the studio. I'll tell my boy you complimented his animation!
Very cool, never knew about this! Would love to grab those proQ presets 😅
I just winged it on the ProMB examples. I think the Dolby units crossover at 80Hz, 3k and 9k. If you search the internet a little you might find the approximate curves of each band. I think you can create your own settings to taste though! Just push some level and compress anywhere 3k or higher. The basic idea is simply blending in compressed high end.
Awesome video! ❤
Glad you liked it!!
@@davidpetersmusic yes very much so. I’m going to pick up the standard audio stretch because of your demo. I was looking into the 361s but with the added features of the stretch (and blend control) I have found what I’ve been looking for. Thanks.
Very cool! The easy presets and blend knob make them very effective indeed.
What a great video! And you released it almost the same time with the new tape-emulation plugin from AirWindows (it's free and from independent developer), which has built-in flexible encoding-decoding stages of his variation of Dolby system. So it was nice to hear these real life examples of actual hardware units in this context, as well as your thoughts on it. I'm new to your channel, and seem like it's really great! Subscribing:)
Big thank you! This is the second comment about the fortunate timing of this video. The stars must be aligning in Dolby-World!
What's the plugin from AirWindows called?
@@TheAzurefang ToTape7 And also he has Dolby as a separate plugin if you don't need other features, it's called Dubly2.
@@TheAzurefang toTape7
Awesome VDO. Thank you very much. I have an Looptrotter Emperor 500, which does a similar thing but does't have as many settings as the Stretch.
Thank you! I'll check out the Looptrotter as well!
Wow, RCA 44 + A301 without the card is istant john lennon's Alan White drums
There ya go! It's a fun sound.
i hit that subscribe
Many thanks! More stuff to come as time allows.
WHEN YOU HEARING GHOSTS
I'll need this comment explained to me!
Can you provide any more info on the Dolby 361 vs 363 please?
I think the 363 uses the "SR" processing cards instead of the "A" processing. Being newer, the SR was probably better for noise reduction, but maybe not as cool as an outboard effect. ...but, I've never tried it!
@pb3662 just chiming in here as a total non-expert who's had the SR and 22 cards for just a few weeks. It seems that only the 22 cards are typically modified; the 22 ones that I have are switchable modified so that you can click in and out the various Dolby tricks amongst the bands. But the SR cards that came with this 365 are not modified, and I don't really see any information about modifying the SR cards in the same way that the 22 cards are modified. I have played through the SR cards and in my decidedly inexpert opinion they sound like a more sophisticated and polished version of what David played through with his unmodified Cat 22 card. I actually *really* like the SR effect blended in parallel, it seems to bring up detail but not squash the perceived dynamic range as much as the Type A Cat 22 cards.
You should absolutely try the sr cards, they are amazing on drums, i actually prefer them than the cat22 cards for drums, in parallel obv cause they're quite drastic! Got the a301 too, love it too.
@@beyondgrooveproductions Great insight on the SR, I’ll have to try that!
@@davidpetersmusic Cat No 300 modules are both SR/A selectable by a toggle switch and work in the 363 chassis. I tend to use mine for their designed purpose but have experimented in the past. The A is useable but the SR I find to artifacty.
How strange the universe can be. I was randomly thinking, “man, a comprehensive video on the Dolby Noise Reduction technology would be super interesting”. There isnt a lot out there that breaks it down in a technical way. With Dolby Atomos, it got me thinking about Dolby as a company and how long they have been around. That was just a few days ago. Then bam! You release this video. How cool. Absolutely love your setup there by the way. Great choices
My favorite piece of studio kit is the implant I put in your brain! But really, thank you, I sincerely appreciate the appreciation. I was thinking the topic might already be covered more than enough, but I noticed there was no demo of a 301 or the Stretch. I should do a video on those studio choices. They took a long time to figure out.
What an incredibly delightful video. Absolutely the best video I've seen on the Dolby trick, and I'm so happy to see that you did it with two versions of the original hardware and those super awesome looking standard audio stretch devices. It's almost impossible to find a Dolby trick video using the actual hardware in a way that's not just a playthrough of a little bit of program material. Instead you have us a full expose of the history and the considerations and the possibilities. It took me two years to finally find a Dolby 365 and get some cool mod cards. It's such a delightful device, really great to see that that Stretch device is able to capture so much of the original! Thank you so much for this. It's literally a perfect RUclips video, and is what this platform was created for.
Wow, thank you. I'm trying to keep it light and fresh while still being useful. I'm glad it's landing! I really appreciate the comment.
man i think you create the best content on this platform. great presentation, great gear that hasnt been shown many times on here ... its fantastic! thanks from berlin!
That's as high a compliment as I could ask for! Thanks you for the support. It means a lot, especially on these first videos!
Great video and channel! Sub'd.
Awesome, thank you!
This is great, I like the future proof aspect but plug ins are so coinvent when having your units away from mix position. how about having both :) sounds great!
@@jason.martin i like the idea of « and » instead of « or »!
a whole desk full of those eqs would be amazing
@@reverendcarter I’ve been considering something like a whole rack of them as my default channel Ed’s. The more you have the more useful the recall would be. It’s just quite an investment and I’m not rich!
@@davidpetersmusic his stuff aint cheap thats for sure!
Well done
@@AudioJanitor much appreciated!
Fantastically produced video and subject matter Josh(The Mr Tesla of audio interfaces), please please make a AD/DA style Latte for well under $5000. Help UAD folks upgrade :)
@@AudioJanitor Thanks for the kind words again!
The recall idea is great! Sounds great! Not as fast to set but the recall makes up for that.
@@1loveMusic2003 Showing the setup was a little slow but doing it has become pretty fast and habitual. I often use them in so many places I just print the results in so I can move them to the next instrument! But on busses the recall has been a real life saver. It would be even more effective if I had ten of them up and running together. One can dream.