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If you look in the title, you’ll know it’s rare in California. Las Vegas has it very common.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 No. But I know there is one pedestrian signal other than a countdown in Cupertino, which replaced a dying countdown pedestrian signal in 2007.

@@STOPHEREProductions they are abandoned and I can tell because this is not an intersection and there are traffic lights just unnecessarily there.

@@Joshua_Park_693 there is no intersection like that.

@@TrafficLightAdventurer I meant CA-82 and CA-237

E El Camino Real and Grant Rd is in Mountain View, CA

@@Joshua_Park_693 Google maps?

It’s rare all over California not just San Diego. This video was actually taken in Fremont, which is located in the Bay Area.

But some at this intersection are working fine, except for 2.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 I know, but I’ve seen a pedestrian signal other than a countdown die before.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 I know, but this one, and even the newer installations are still common in my area.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 but they’re supposed to yield to both vehicles and pedestrians. MUTCD requires the yellow flashing to be on the walk signal.

​@@TrafficLightAdventurerIt depends on how busy the intersection is. If it's a quiet intersection with light traffic, then the yellow arrow flashes while the walk light is on, but at other intersections where there is more traffic, the red arrow stays on while the walk light is on so the person safely gets across the street.

They did exist before 2005 and this is an old chirp sound. The pedestrian housing is a standard hand/man housing and this pedestrian signal actually used to be a worded pedestrian signal with the others being standard hand man back in the 1980s and then since then it was changed to a countdown in 1985.

​​@Trafficlightsiosandmore Again, countdown pedestrian signals did not exist until 2005. It was worded pedestrian signals everywhere in 1985 with either neon or incandescent lighting.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 Not only neons or incandescent lights go in pedestrian signals. The are LED, neon ir incandescent.

@@Trafficlightsiosandmore That's right. LED can go in old pedestrian housings, but LED countdowns themselves didn't exist until 2005.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 I never knew that the countdown pedestrian signal was introduced in 2005 and it was rare during that time, but it’s getting a lot more common now. I kept on thinking that it existed before 2005. do you believe that pedestrian sign should be manufactured to be worded countdowns.

No. Look closely.

​@@TrafficLightAdventurerBut one is broken

Pedestrian signal isn’t dying. It’s just the walk sign.

@@Trafficlightsiosandmore I meant a dying hand on Wolfe Rd

@@Joshua_Park_693 that one was actually just the thumb destroyed by a car crash that happened a year ago and it’s not dying.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 it’s because the crosswalk is not painted enough to be an actual crosswalk and also nobody pays attention to this pedestrian signal, and if you look closely in the video, you will see pedestrians ignoring the signal.

​@TrafficLightAdventurer Those are pedestrians just being dumb who have no patience to wait for the walk light, and not all crosswalks are painted. Doesnt make the pedestrian signal pointless.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 that’s exactly not true. This is not a crosswalk and there is just a pedestrian signal and nobody except for me is paying attention to it. The city probably should remove it.

​​@TrafficLightAdventurer It is true. If you are ignoring the pedestrian signal, then you risk getting hit by a vehicle. Also if there is a pedestrian signal, then that means it is a crosswalk. I even see roads on both sides which confirms that it is indeed a crosswalk.

@@Joshua_Park_693 yes but someone just did call it in after just weeks and then they replaced it with another countdown.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354they make it look like a pedestrian signal so that busses cannot pay attention.

​@@TrafficLightAdventurer???

Also because the traffic lights are on a timed green or resting on green.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 Cycle refers to the timing plan. A pedestrian phase will not call again if there is demand on the sidestreet. But since the ped phase was called, it means the green was timed to last longer than the full pedestrian time. Ped reservice programming allows the phase to be called again within the cycle. Otherwise, the pedestrian phase would not be called until the cycle reset to zero and started over. Rest in green occurs during free run (untimed, uncoordinated). Unless the signal detector on the green phase is broken, it should have terminated first for the sidestreet vehicles, then call the pedestrian phase.

@@traffic.engineer they do allow them, but cities are just in the desire of switching.

@@TrafficLightAdventurer Please read the standards before posting. FHWA did not allow worded pedestrian signals after the 2000 MUCTD, which California adopted in the state MUTCD. Existing signals were permitted to remain as long as they were functional. Replacements were required to use the hand/person signal. I personally, though, think this was a nonsense standard. I did not see any studies that said this better conveyed the message. If anything, the worded Winkomatics imitated the vehicular signals to convey the walk and don't walk.

@@traffic.engineer oh. But they still do have worded pedestrian signals around Pennsylvania, but I know they are still a lot common there so then the CA MUTCD disallowed this now and that’s why it’s rare here.

@@cjrthesignalfan Novato, CA.

@@traffic.engineer ok. I’ll tell the city to never program it like that again and then tell them that those arrows should actually be separated.

@@TrafficLightAdventurer Also let them know about the 4-section signals at the US 101 ramps. The right turn arrow must be UNDER the left turn arrow.

@@traffic.engineer I don’t think it would be nice to have the right green arrow to be under the left green arrow because it would be confusing to drivers. They since then had the arrow separated from each other because I told them that MUTCD does not allow it. Traffic light to do what you said before I was replying to your comment.

@@traffic.engineerI know. Looks pretty cool.

Why do you have to use that word like that?

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 because the new one sucks lol

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 bro used a bad word.

@@Joshua_Park_693 Jack London Blvd & Paragon Outloods Ave.

@@Joshua_Park_693 it’s not very sucky some other companies have the countdown timers break as well and many Dialight versions are actually doing OK except for that one pedestrian signal that you see in the video that’s doing that. And this company does not make very good things and is not competing with any other companies and they unfortunately had to discontinue pedestrian signals and now they had since been replaced by McCain’s.

@@TrafficLightAdventurer I mean, usually that one in the video is. In my opinion, I usually like older Dialight modules from 2004-2005 better than newer modules.

@@Joshua_Park_693 some newer modules are already working fine in my city so I like those it’s just that the older versions will have a countdown timer that flashes when I don’t like it.

@@TrafficLightAdventurer Some newer modules in my city, Irvine and Tustin, are losing its LEDs.

@@Joshua_Park_693 not in Santa Clara, but the reason why this happens is because of the high heat, and the cities are very high heat. The newer versions are doing well in my area.

That happened once to my own personal pedestrian signal, and I threw it long away ago.

@@Trafficlightsiosandmore Trashed it?

@@Trafficlightsiosandmore Could you post your personal traffic lights?

@@Joshua_Park_693 I never had time to post it.

@@Joshua_Park_693 yes. The countdown timer on my own personal Dialight countdown pedestrian signal with a built-in Wilcox Sales APS wasn’t working, and I threw that pedestrian signal away. That speaker was still built in well it was in that exact place. I was trying to purchase it, and then still that speaker was thrown in the trash along with that as well. It happened there because those types of pedestrian signals are not very heat resistant in my parents set my heater to heat up to 83°F and because they thought it was too cold when it was below 80°, and since then, the countdown timer, was not working properly and kept dying out and sometimes if it would get fixed, it would just show random numbers.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 excessively bright in the city told me they were trying to enable dimmer, but they couldn’t do that which makes it excessively bright, which is what makes the countdown timers get broken on it the LED pedestrian signals because dimmers do not get turned on making it like that. Also, the city of San Diego does not turn on the dimmer, which is why their pedestrian hands are all dying. San Diego is pretty hot and countdown pedestrian signals are not resistant to such heat which is why you’re noticing these types of countdown, which is why you notice that these types of to pedestrian signals which my camera picks up the numbers is flickering is not doing well. Also, just a few days after this video of the countdown pedestrian signal is already dying actually now. I did tell the city about it and they replaced it with a new pedestrian signal which at least is doing fine. The brand of the pedestrian signal in the video is a Dialight.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 yes and it’s because there is a built-in sensor on it to detect buses where no one pays attention to it because it looks like a pedestrian signal, and also three and pedestrian signals have been getting phased out and uncommon because it’s confusing drivers to think it’s making pedestrians for thinking it’s a traffic signal and pedestrians will ignore it.

Okay so there's a sensor, thanks.

I have also seen that for the first time too. They are actually quite rare.

That's probably their main color in that part of town.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 they are nationwide not just a part of a place.

​@@TrafficLightAdventurerI said certain towns in cities have their own color they want on signal and street light poles.

Thanks.

It’s nostalgic.

​@@TrafficLightAdventurerSad the word was replaced

Novato.

Yeah I miss the neon words.

​@@Joshua_Park_693Still got 5 of them left in San Diego.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 That's good. Hopefully they stay.

@@Joshua_Park_693 I know, but there are just no worries because of them still in San Diego so at least I would just like this new pedestrian signal after a year because the countdown is doing OK.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 Not like that. Some standard pedestrian signal to deteriorate as well.

​@TrafficLightAdventurer But they perform better than a countdown though because it's simply a hand and a walk.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 my city has the countdown actually perform as good as the hands/man so they keep it. I know some cities where the countdowns aren’t performing well so they just replaced it. At least the pedestrian signs are counting down when I expected to, so at least the countdown timer is ok.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 oh. They’re actually worded bus signals then.

@@TrafficLightAdventurer Yes. You have to change your title.

@@sandiegotrafficlightstrain354 hello do you know if there are still neon worded pedestrian signals standing in San Diego as of October 2024?

@@Trafficlightsiosandmore Yes, I pass them all of the time and I have videos of them if you go to my playlist called "Worded Neon Pedestrian Signals" on my page. I have posts of them too.