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We have a large freezer at work which is minus 20°C and I can't stand more than 10 or 15 minutes in that cold, even dressed in two or three layers and a thick parka jacket. I simply cannot comprehend the savagery of those mens' suffering after being outside, often without shelter or even winter clothing, in minus 20, minus 30 and even minus 40°C, for weeks and months on end whilst being shadowed shot, shelled and going without food for days. It's literally beyond the limits of my understanding. In a bad British winter, which almost never gets below -10°C, I often lose the circulation to several fingers within hours and as soon as I'm able to reheat my numb, pale, frozen fingers I always experience an excruciating pain in the bones of my hands which can leave me in me paralysing, agonising pain. I'm sure these men suffered that same pain, but to a far greater degree, and u couldn't possibly sympathise with them any more than I already do. There are very few things worse in this world than being frozen almost to death, but these soldiers went through MUCH worse.

My 4th great grandfather was in the Iron Brigade of Wisconsin and guarded President Lincoln towards the end of the war. He was at Gettysburg and Antietam, I'm proud that he freed the slaves - however I'm not so thrilled about the resulting federal government which was cemented further into history by the civil war. Of course that all started back with Hamiltonian's taking reign over Jeffersonian ideology.

Long live the Confederacy

War sucks. They shouldn’t have started one

This is the outcome of rebellion if your side is the loser.

I've always believed it wasn't Union men against Confederate men.. without a uniform they wouldn't have known the difference.. Lincoln, Grant, Anderson and Sherman and Lee were the ones pushing for the civil war between states, between father and sons.. brother against brother..

Is that a woman standing tall in the middle?

Sben Hassel

well, when you believe a maniac--------------

The forgotten Soldier by Guy Sajer

Not all soldiers in the 5th Texas Infantry were from Texas. My G-G-Grandfather was from Wilcox County, Georgia. It seems that as Texans were killed, troops from other states were enjoined to the 5th Texas (the Bloody 5th) Infantry. He survived the war.

Year???

Is this a true story

Still haven't learned.

Vary much Battle of Moscow was the writing on the wall.The entire front almost colapsed.Only Hitlers fanaticism saved the army...But lost dozens of Generals wich Hitler fired.They advocated retreat out of Russia. But some other German Fieldmarchals believed that Germany could at least figjt the Russians into a Remi peace.No winners no losets type thing

the wehrmacht was bled white on the eastern front. 75% of the Wehrmacht divisions were deployed in the east. the Red army was victorious but its casualties were at 3-5 times that of the nazis. without the price paid by the red army, the allies would have to face a higher bill for sure in the west

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"...man a defense line that just happened to be behind us - and it worked!"

2:16 😮 transformed

Amazing gen X

Guy Mouminoux ,(Guy Sajer's) book .I first read back in the early 70's, when it was first published in English. "The forgotten Soldier" and "With the Old Breed" by Eugene Sledge are two of the best war narratives I have read. This passage "Breakthrough at Konotop" is from Sajers' book . I highly recommend reading it .

The traitorous democrat slave owning planters and their lackeys lost. America won.

That's Guy Sajer's book. Great read!

A world of schisse.

Outstanding

Surround sound, surrounded,

Many of the fleeing Ukrainians are conscripts. However the Russian Army is far more merciful these days, so many are simply surrendering.

Seems the Ukranian Nationalists are replaying this scene now.

And I get upset if it drizzles while I’m golfing

So intense. I am tensed up just reading this, as if I were there running for my life with these men.

So many National Socialists in the comments!

“The accuracy and authenticity of the book have been disputed by some historians. Some of the details Sajer mentions appear to be incorrect, while other are impossible to verify due to the lack of surviving witnesses and documents. The most frequently cited inaccuracy is Sajer's statement that, after being awarded the coveted Grossdeutschland Division cuff title, he and a friend were ordered to sew it on their left sleeves, when it is well established that this specific unit always wore their cuff titles on the right sleeve. Edwin Kennedy wrote that this error was "unimaginable" for a former member of such an elite German unit. Sajer also discusses campaign locations in vague terms and never with specific dates. For example, he asserts that during the summer of 1942 he was briefly assigned to a Luftwaffe training unit in Chemnitz commanded by famed Stuka ace Hans-Ulrich Rudel, but according to Rudel himself, his training unit was actually in Graz, Austria, during the whole of 1942. Sajer mentions seeing ‘the formidable Focke-Wulf 195s, which could soar up quickly taking off from an airfield outside Berlin, when no such aircraft ever existed (a Focke-Wulf projekt 195, a heavy transport, was in the pipeline, but never got off the drawing board. Finally, the names of most of Sajer's companions and leaders do not appear on official rolls in the Bundesarchiv, nor are they known to the Grossdeutschland Veterans Association, whose leader, Helmuth Spaeter, was one of the first to question whether Sajer actually served in the Grossdeutschland Division as he claimed.”

Just like in the Ukraine.... Russia's numbers drown their enemies.

You cannot win against human meat waves.

Unlikely. By 1943 it was a war of attrition. Such a war favored the soviets. The germans best and perhaps only chance was in 1941 but they diverted from attacking Moscow in the summer in favor of shifting army group center towards Kiev.

If GB and the USA had not supported the Soviet Union and Josef Stalin with enormous amounts of financial and military aid the Wehrmacht would have defeated the Red Army by the beginning or mid 1943.

I could listen to this for hours. I used to work in a public library in the late 1970's and came across brilliant books all the time and "Forgotten Soldier" was one of them. And the character of The Veteran (whose true name is later given as "August Wiener") is one of the most steadfast and enigmatic men in the entire story. His end is pure irony itself, as several chapters later, everyone is bugging out yet again from the advancing Soviets. The Veteran volunteers to be the rear guard and sacrifice himself to slow down the onrushing hordes. They all try to talk him out of it; but his last words are "There'll be no room for me after the war, remember?" (referring to an earlier conversation). Their last sight of The Veteran is as he is furiously spraying the Russians with machine gun fire, never to be seen again.

The Red Army....always more difficult than the declarations of sophisticated propaganda organs ridiculing them.....

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Guy Sajer, 'The Forgotten Soldier' - i remember reading this passage 45 years ago!

This sounds a lot like the reports from Ukraine. Waves of Russian soldiers.

I hate cold blistering winds More so when ice melting slowly

Getting through to the West? I'm sure when he wrote this he wasn't aware of the marauding SS fanatics killing ANY German, civilians or Soldaten, anyone they thought was a traitor. You could say he was between a rock and a hard place.

The Yankees destroyed my ancestor's home and then hung Mr. Feldor their neighbor from a tree. His loyal slaves cut him down before he died.

My late father-in-law said the ordinary German soldier was just like us. They just wanted to go home. The SS and officers were the REAL enemy. Not many of them were taken as prisoner.

I had to sleep in the rain with no tent on a beach during a thunder and lightning storm with one thin blanket, not knowing if I'd get struck dead; there was no place to stay. After a while the sand was stuck everywhere and I gave up trying to wipe it off my face. It was a new feeling of resigning myself to the elements like a pig in the mud. The hand I'd wipe with was sandy too, so it was no use. Moments like that make you appreciate a bed with fresh linen today.

This doesn't fit the narrative that some historians have. They call it a fiction that there were any slaves that were well treated. Well this refutes that thought. I am old enough to remember when B's and W's were friends. Hollywood has brainwashed B's today and it's hard for them to not hold animosity toward W people.

Is this from the book "Blood Red Snow"?

I can't remember where I read it, but the General W. Keitel admonished Hitler about his plans for Operation Barbarossa feeling that the endeavor was too great for the Wehrmacht and he was right, a two front war was what helped Germany's defeat in 1918, Hitler just had to repeat it, perhaps it would be a walk in the park?