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yes the pressing movements are definitely my favorite on the VTS. Calf raises are my favorite on the VTS

You can do this with the isolator, I’ve done rows with this setup but it takes a lot of extra attachments to get it working well

Sorinex squat stand!

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Yes, the bare steel equipment handles feel like an aggressive power bar, probably 16tpi. The new bare steel handles are stainless as well. Sometimes they offer boneyard sales on the handles. The griffin handles are much more passive and I’d compare it to a rogue ohio bar. For general use and versatility I think the griffin handles are better for multiple exercises. The baresteel handles are great for rowing and pressing movements. It comes down to preference and use for sure. Ive never had them but I also heard good things about the average joes handles

@@andie_pl Thanks for all that! Id be all about the average Joe ones to try since they seem the perfect middle road here, but seems like he's taking orders for delivery closer to April for ones that will fit my U90s. I have an Ohio Power Bar, so would be nice to get the knurl to feel close to that, but not sure extra money nice. Lol Do the griffin knurl still have some bite to them in your hands, or is it just enough to give some grip?

The griffins is definitely enough to get a good grip but not like an aggressive barbell. If you are training with multiple people griffins are a goos buy. Wait for a sale though on the griffins they seem to run sales 10% throughout the year. I also wanna try the average joes as they look really nice, if baresteel could add knurl marks on their handles that would probably win me over lol

​@andie_pl right on! Thanks for all the input there! What did yo u mean at end of baresteel would add knurlmarks?

thank you for that! I have a Rogue Monster Slinger setup for my RM-6 and the rogue trolley arms. The only times they get in the way is if I am using a low row attachment near the bottom of my rack and the cable sometimes rubs on the trolley arms. If I had the rogue functional trainer attachment the trolley arms would get in the way for sure just because of how the cable management is. I think the VTS inside the rack is a good idea ass it keeps it out of the way for the most part. I currently have my VTS Lite hanging near the top of the uprights on my current setup

Good points and thank you for sharing your experience with the VTS. I definitely think it’s not for everyone in terms of feel and use. Rogue releasing a smith attachment with their bars would be pretty good. I’d like to see something that uses guide rods and not just the uprights from them

It’s good, but the powdercoat doesnt feel as premium as other machines/usa made equipment I have. I think for the cost its pretty good, it doesnt feel like the syeedee or gmwd fitness of the worlds. but it doesnt feel as premium as the prime fitness’ of the world. Their iso row has been something on my radar as well. but I am looking into used/marketplace first before committing.

@@andie_pl I’m fine with the powder coating. Honestly was going to go with the GMWD one tbh but seen this had knurled handles but unsure if just knurled handles is worth the $1100 premium over the GMWD for what seems to be similar functionality. I priced out Prime recently and it’s was almost $4700 shipped and a 12 month lead time. There are very few good options in the used/FB Marketplace. I see the Valor Fitness/Titan Fitness/Body Solid ones all the time. There’s a selectorized one not too far from me which I’m considering but it’s not technically an ISO and getting a selectorized machine in my basement sounds awful. Waiting to Black Friday to see what my option should be. But thanks for the response.

I appreciate those kind words! glad it was helpful

urs too

absolutely, they’ve had this model around for a long time and it could use some updates like that

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fast asf bro wtf

Yes its not that noticeable, but I think the VTS is smoother with the 4 way roller system. The lite feels like theres more play side to side

I don’t think it would. would probably have to move to 3 x 3 rack or 2 x 3 at least

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they are okay, I think the average joes might be better. just a longer wait though. I am not sure how often average joe ships out, I looked once to buy some and the lead time was around 12 weeks. not sure what it is now though

Hey! I tried using the elitefts ssb however it is too thick to fit the current hooks bulletproof has for sale. They are currently working on a solution for the somewhat thicker bars

Appreciate that! I am going to get that down on my notes for the review on this piece!

Hey I have a 90” tall rack and I am 5’8”. I wouldn’t recommend having the VTS Lite and Trolley arms on the same uprights as it gets a little crowded. If you have the long trolley arms, maybe putting the VTS lite on them might be more convenient

@@andie_pl I'm out of room actually so I have no choice, lol. Quick question, I was planning on putting the vts lite and the trolley arms facing away from each other on the uprights. Would the backside of the vts lite, hit the trolley arms if they were in the down position? I hope that makes sense, thanks for the help!

@@andysadvice3236 So the bracket of the vts lite sticks out 2.5”. The trolley arms at a down position is 2”. It might fit because the rollers only go out 1.5” from the back side. Its possible but I haven’t tested this theory yet

it is the steadfast lifting calf block, they are no longer in business

yeah ill sell you this one

i appreciate the feedback, ill see if i can adjust the audio volume up. i record off my iphone so i might have to just put the mic up close lol

@@andie_plHey Andie, that was me commenting above from my personal channel. Since then I made this one and just posted my first video. I did some research on recording audio and ended up buying the Hollyland Lark M2 wireless lav mic. If you want to see how it sounds, feel free to check out the video. It wasn’t very expensive and I think it works pretty well. Super easy to use, too.

Hey chrisa the smith squats are one of my top exercises for the VTS. However my advice would be to add counter weight like bands to help you out of the bottom position of squat. This isnt medical advice but If you are experiencing pain I would definitely seek professional experience. As for the smith squats itself try out different foot placements for your setup and keep the weight light. smith squats will limit you to a certain path where normal barbell squats will give you more room for play

Yeah theres another hook system you can get that will latch onto a hitch pin on the side of the rack. Theres no safeties that come with the VTS lite but you can use a hitch pin to bottom out or catch it if you fail a squat, just make sure to have it on both sides. I kinda like that you can latch onto holes in the rack that way you can technically latch or fail at whatever point on the lift

its pretty smooth when using with little side to side wobble. The lite trolleys were intended to be built without much adjustability so the design is pretty well packed together. because of the trolleys being aligned with the upright and barbell unracking and racking the hooks could be uneven. it takes a little to get used to it but overall not too bad

This was what I was worried about 😢. I think I’ll wait for other transitional smith machine attachments

every time i hear bulletproof i think of the song by la roux lol

I got some pieces to bring down and I can finally do an updated tour

you tricked me to get it 😬😏

yes for the most part the pendulum squat is pretty smooth. it does have a counter weight arm and you can add more weight to it so its easier out of the pocket when coming back up. otherwise if you want the max weight at the top dont use the counter weight arm

Pretty sure the VTS is made in china. The owner usually posts about his factory showing prototypes and him actually there testing prototypes

I haven’t used the Pritchett pad before. But I assume you are referring to the thresher pad. I have used a normal barbell with this setup before and the bar hits the safety thats why I used the open trap bar for this. I have pretty short arms in general so trying to get full ROM in this setup I would need to use an open trap bar, or a barbell with handle attachments.

Hey thank you for that! It’s hard to say because functionally the stainless upgrade dip attachment is basically the same. I think if you’re already trying to get the best in terms of aesthetics it’s worth the upgrade, definitely looks nicer imo. Especially the handles, the stainless handles look nicer and less maintenance than the black handles. If you don’t care and just want a quality dip bar then the standard powder coat is fine. Rogue ran a black friday $20 off the standard version last year so I’d keep an eye out for that if you want the powder coat version.

I appreciate that feedback!! I always try to be brief and not drag on too long

If you have the rogue trolley arms on a rogue rack it would give you 6” of open space between the arms. It’s doable but annoying to get into position. I think MM recommends the 12” handles for trolley arm use

not a problem, appreciate you watching

Just put the link in the description for you. Looks like they are currently out of stock on amazon right now

@@andie_pl thanks so much! I’ll wait for restock

pull up and test it out

last night

come thru to test it out

It was 3 hours round trip with disassembling and carrying out the machine. I lucked out and the seller was a gym owner, so I didn’t have to take a gamble on someone really random and picked up at their gym. My seller could’ve flaked and I would’ve been so mad lol. 1-1.5 hours one way is probably my max for driving. 5 hours one way is pretty risky to go

quick because lord huugs was able to help while you were avoiding..

“let them in”