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Yeah, but it is emulation, which is crap and not the real thing..... So, the best Falcon is still, a Falcon (with 68060, 128MB RAM etc).

I installed your image with Geneva Neodesk etc on my (real hardware) STE. I'm not sure why I don't have a neodesk control panel and can't get my accessories to show. Otherwise it's nice. Also Can Warp9 load with NVDI? Thank you for these videos and your images. I'm really enjoying having my ST up and running in a way my ST never did when I was using it in high school.

I used to love the combo of Gemini, NVDI, MiNT, etc...

GREAT video. neat topic. i'm just learning about the atari stuff. but this is good stuff. i had a bunch of the old macs in the day. thanks.

I have been looking for MagiCMac installer on the internet. Where did you find?

But what about an Amiga emulating a Mac Emulating an ST, now that would be interesting to see, the reason I say that is an Amiga with same processor as the Mac ran faster than an equivalent Mac.

I don't get why this should be called a Falcintosh. Maybe we can call it GEMintosh, but for it to be called Falcintosh it would need to be able to replace a Falcon. Which it can't. It has absolutely nothing to do with the Falcon. What made the Falcon the Falcon are its graphics and sound capabilities and its DSP. The Performa has none of it. Sure, it can run proper GEM applications but absolutely nothing that would be written for the Falcon. Or try to run ST games on it. I doubt that any commercial games will run on the Performa. Don't get me wrong, it was well known in the early 90s that the best professional Atari computer comes from Apple, but the Falcon is and was never a computer for standard applications. It can run them and it was still a significant boost from a normal ST but it's simply the wrong computer to compare it to the Performa. The Falcon has an 030 and is limited to 14MB of RAM and to a 16 Bit bus. What do you expect when you compare it to a machine that has a 040 with 25 or 50Mhz and 4-36MB of RAM running on a 32Bit bus? If there is any counterpart then it would be the Atari TT (equipped with TT RAM). (And the Performa would still be the better choice).

Interesting video. Would have been also interesting to see the performance of full-blown 68040 equiped Performa. And what about music software (Cubase, Notator) and hardware extensions? Is it somewhere mentioned in the software documentation?

I've uploaded the install floppy images for MultiTeX to my old blog page www.overtakenbyevents.com/MultiTex-for-the-Atari-ST-Floppy-Images/

Some interesting things about the 475. As well as being expandable to 1MB VRAM and supporting 8bit at 1152*870, they actually aren't capped at 36MB RAM, they even take 64 and 128MB simms for up to 132MB, or technically 260MB with a SIMM Saver (which won't fit in the case). Lastly and most importantly, they have a software controllable CPU clock! It was recently discovered that you can bump them up to higher speeds by poking certain registers. 33MHz is easy, 40 is possible and I've got mine to 50MHz including some hardware mods. Its a brand new discovery, so we're still improving the software.

Does anyone know if a Mac LC II could have run an Atari ST (520 or 1040) emulator and play games at native 60800 speeds? Games that were made for the Mac (Sim City 2000, Lemmings etc) were better on the Mac. But in the late 80s / early 90s, the ST had a much wider variety of games. Particularly arcade style games that were underrepresented on the Mac like Double Dragon, Super Hang On, Gauntlet II etc).

Well the falcon is quite underpowered but I am surprised of how badly the performa performs (pun intended). From your real use tests it seems like the difference in performance is just on the CPU and bus speed. In the early days there was an accelerator for the falcon (mighty sonic/eagle I think) that was really cheap (but being a broke student I couldn't afford) and would give 32Mhz 030 and TT RAM to the falcon. Something like this would make your Mac seem really slow in comparison. Of course like others said it's more like a TT and less like a falcon but I get your point as well.

I've always wanted to get an iMac running MagicMac to replace my old ass STe, but I was returning to university and needed a Windows PC for programming classes. Had I've known about Virtual PC, I would had held off getting a Pentium PC for school and save up more for an iMac to run both MagicMac & Virtual PC. And yes I know MagicMac is more for running serious GEM applications than games but there was also an ST emulator called NoSTalgia for the fun stuff.

Love this so much!! I like running just the opposite...Mac OS on my Falcon (with an 060 in it). It's one way to get more late software for the software-poor Falcon. Running Warcraft II on an Atari makes me smile.

I'd bought a second hand Quadra 840av off a work colleague, then ran MagicMac on it. But it wasn't as compatible as I'd hoped so sold the Mac then used the money to buy a TT and TTM194 monitor off an advert in Atari World magazine.

Could one run FreeMiNT on a "Old World" Motorola 68k Mac? I despise MacOS versions prior to Mac OS X as they were prone to crashing due to MacOS's cooperative multitasking. I'd love a way to run a preemptive multitasking OS on an "Old World" 68k Mac

Sorry, but this time I have to disagree. While MagicMac was indeed some kind of "savior" for ATARI folks and was presented even in various ST mags as one, the MagicMac was actually not a Falcon replacement. It was ST/MegaSTE/TT030 replacement. First of all Falcon can have larger VRAM then your Peforma, second no, Falcon can do more then 640x480@8bit out of the box, and with some overclock way more then that... Third, Falcon is not just pure faster ST, Falcon has much better audio system your Performa has not and does have DSP which can speed up a lot of operations that will outperform Performa with 68LC40. Fourth, adding a FPU to Falcon was fairly easy, rather cheap and almost a mandatory upgrade (I didnt know any Falcon owner who didnt have the FPU), the Performa 475 did not have this option but to be fair, you could run MagicMac on any 68030-40 Macintosh. Edit: also it is not true that ATARI abandoned Falcon one year after its release, it was abandoned before the sales started.

So one could run a Mac on a 060 Amiga and would run Falcon the fastest

It’s an interesting topic this because a lot of us had Falcons or upgraded STs and saw Atari had abandoned us. Sooner or later a decision was needed… I went with the Mac but (iirc) 1997. So I lasted a long time! :) Got a power Mac and used MagicMac a lot until I gradually replaced those programs with Mac equivalents. Stupidly sold my Falcon and TT around 2002 I think. Stupid!! Biggest regret ever as I’ll never be able to afford one again :/ Anyhow a brilliant video 👍🏻

Waw, new video, instant like.

Atari St was okay in the 68000 days, but I never saw a 68030 ST here in the USA. I believe they have compatibility issues, worse than on the Mac 68030 machines with their 68000 software. Atari tragically never made it to 68040.

OK, the most Computer of the 80's based on the 68 Motorola Chip.

Where does one find the latest version of QED to run on real hardware (Atari Falcon) with NeoDesk 4? I downloaded both 68000 and 68030 images from github of 5.0.5 that are for some reason under freemint repo and they just crash on my system. I found QED that doesn't crash but it's an ancient version 3.

Great video, but how do you get NeoDesk to auto-boot without loading Geneva? I like the idea of Geneva, but I am hesitant. What is it's impact on Games? I had a bad experience with MultiTOS back in the day... I am using an ST with 4 megs and TOS 1.04.

Building a tf 536 for my mega after that I plan on installing a mint partition.

Tried running this on an intel MacBook today running High Sierra 10.13.6 and the app reports that it needs macOS 10.15 or higher to run. Is this just a 'tick box' thing in the compiler settings to make it compatible, or are you using APIs that only exist in newer macOS releases?

Also, is it possible to output the Pi 5 to a VGA monitor?

I wonder how the newer Mister clones will emulate the Atari computers.

Would you be able to provide a copy of that entire Raspberry Pi image? Would love to try it out first.

How would you get the files for the NetusBee if you did not have the UltraSatan?

Nice video, but there are easier ways to split the TOS ROM such as using the Hi-Lo-Byte-Split python script. I bought some EEPROMS for £3 each and I'm going to program them using pi-eeprom-programmer, which as you might guess is a EEPROM programmer for the Raspberry Pi that uses the GPIO header.

There's all these great OS options for the Falcon, but zero fun or interesting software to run on it.

I've owned all the models apart from the TT and even two Falcons. I first saw a Falcon 030 in a pro recording studio in 1992, but on my next visit the owner had got rid of it and gone back to his trusty ST. In 2010 I had a full blown fully upgraded Falcon 030 14MB 60ns, with all the SoundPool interfaces etc and Steinberg Cubase Audio 2.06, but I can see that being an early adopter that studio owner would have had major headaches getting it to run reliably. Mine was fine apart from getting a suitable SCSI hard drive for the audio files. Once that was obtained it ran ok.

Uh, no, the internet was not 2 years old in 1985. It got its start more like 15 years before that for things like email, FTP, and newsgroups, but the WWW didn't come around til 1991, not 1989. There are like 8 billion websites with this information, did you read any of them?

Towel day is missing in the calendar.

I'm struggling to get floppy images to boot, just freezes

You awakened neural pathways that have lain undisturbed in me for about 30 years! I remember using that! And I loved the 68000 Hisoft assembler and debugger!

A Beautiful tool. Always wanted it but cash was sparse. Atari ST had such cool software. Cubase, Notator, GFA and Omikron Basic, Tempus Word, NVDI, KSpread, TurboAss, PureC. Software was really user friendly back then (on all platforms), before career-project managers took over.

I'd love to have the enthusiasm to revive the platform on which I learned 68k assembler, GFA-BASIC and C coding, proper GUIs, electronics and soldering, office programs like Texel and Signum!3, MIDI music production, Notator Logic and so much more. Looking back, my eleven years or so with the Atari Mega ST4 were pretty great (hardware-blitter chip, Turbo030 with 50MHz and 4MB fast RAM, two graphics cards, NVDI, MagiC, external ACSI hard disks and yes, Harlekin). MagiC!Mac even helped me onto my first Apple PPC machine, made me appreciate MacOS and later OS X (macOS nowadays). Making good money with coding and Linux administration, I learned about server-side stuff and actual IBM mainframes while shaking my head at the MS-Windows crowd. I had an Atari TT with a 19'' monochrome monitor and some proper SCSI hard disks for about a while and sold it for triple the price I paid. That's a long story in and of itself. Looking back at the Atari TOS and its many bugs, conceptual flaws and idiosyncrasies, its drive letters, its worse-than-DOS filesystem, I wonder why I didn't ever check out Amiga. Then again, I'm reminded of Amiga's horrible color monitor, its flurry of custom chips and weird graphics, and its lack of MIDI ports. My Atari stuff still works, but I'm so glad to live in a time when I have Linux, KDE, seemingly endless RAM and storage, Unicode, versatile and robust filesystems, USB in all its forms and global connectivity. I'm glad to be free of the restraints of 8-bit Amstrad or 16-/32-bit Atari. Thank you for your Harlekin video, it really brought back some memories. Cheers!

I remember being blown away by this. Incredible!!

Great, thanks to your video I can use the NetUSBee to back up files without using the floppy drive. I don't have to mention how slow the floppy drive is - this device can beat me swapping out the floppy disk. The floppies are also rather space limited. I have ordered one.

WOW I forgot I used to use Harlequin until you showed it! lol Though I think I used an earlier version provided on a cover disk.

Man, how many memories, this was one of the tools I used to use back these days. I had completely forgotten it.

Harlekin was simple best thing ever on ST!

BTW, I think that you made one small mistake - Harlekin system font editor works okay w NVDI. One can load any font from GEMSYS folder as 'GEM font with Fontheader' and save back edited font as same type. My ASSIGN.SYS default font is modified Monaco (8p SCREEN.SYS \ s MONACO*.FNT) and it works perfectly well with NVDI5/SpeedoGDOS. Also, check your Vectors (HARLEGFP.ACC must be in the root for Vectors panel to work, but it's easy to move from ACC folder to root, adjust Vectors/save, and then move it back to ACC folder). Best thing about that feature is that I made my ST text handling - MS DOS 5 CP 852 (Latin 2) & CP 855 (Cyrillic) compatible. Ha! :D

Thank you, thank you, thank you for the video! Harlekin was my absolute favorite ST software - they don't make them like they used to :D For me, most useful feature was sort table in combo w system font&keyboard editor. It allowed me to have almost perfect sorting for Serbain/Croatian texts, and we have few extra letters (č,ć,đ,š,ž). I was doing a ton of text processing/setting (read: Calamus) - this was a life saver. I still have Harlekin in all of my Hatari boot imgs - pity it doesn't work well w MiNT/XaAES (at least version that I have). Thanks one more time!

Atari ST was a computer I saw, and wanted badly, but couldn't get. Was a mere child... But enjoyed the video thoroughly! Keep making these videos! I wish there is a Baremetal install or at least a distro of Hatari I could run with demos and games (where copyright has expired, or is abandoned)... Any ideas? Always feel there is little out there compared to Amiga channels. Still, I rock on with my Atari 130XL computer. And the various things I can now pair with it, like the Atari SIO2SD, etc.

and yet people cant get AV (red white yellow cables) video from a analog aux signal using a app, samsung still does better with old tvs

This is great! I'd definitely be interested in a video detailing the same process with hardware MIDI controllers. Would it be set up the same way?

So Latex is the precursor to Markdown?